Felony to resell park tickets...

[awdsmama]

http://www.wdwinfo.com/news/General...es_fine_for_re-selling_theme_park_tickets.htm

The Dis article states:
A bill was approved in the Senate today that will raise the fines for people who illegally resell theme park tickets. Orlando theme parks had been lobbying for this bill (SB 394), which would increase fines from $500 up to a maximum of $10,000. Repeat offenders will be tried for a felony, not just a misdemeanor. The bill provides an answer to Walt Disney World's new MagicBands, and now provides for their use with the changing of the legal definition of park tickets. New technologies will now be included and tickets don't just have to be the typical paper cards. One item was removed that would allow ticket buyers to resell tickets as their own personal property.

The bill, sponsored by Republican Senator Alan Hays, was passed unanimously in the Senate Commerce and Tourism Committee.

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Fingers crossed this is a sign of certain ticket options coming back

 

[Cinderpamela]

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Fingers crossed this is a sign of certain ticket options coming back

That would be great! We want our 6 day ticket option back!!!

 

[bcla]

This is for Florida only, where it's currently illegal. This would only increase the penalty.

 

[awdsmama]

This is for Florida only, where it's currently illegal. This would only increase the penalty.

 

[cmwade77]

This is for Florida only, where it's currently illegal. This would only increase the penalty.

I would love to see this law in California as well, it would hopefully allow for a reduction in prices as well.

 

[trill]

Can anyone tell me why and how people resell tickets?

I believe for Disneyland, you need a photo for multiple day tickets so you can't share or sell unused portions. What am I missing here?

This must be more than just some convention goer selling their discount ticket.

 

[sierranevada]

Can anyone tell me why and how people resell tickets?

I believe for Disneyland, you need a photo for multiple day tickets so you can't share or sell unused portions. What am I missing here?

This must be more than just some convention goer selling their discount ticket.

Requiring photos for the multi day tickets is new at DL and was implemented to try and thwart the resellers who bought the long park-hoppers and sold them day by day to people on Craig's list, etc.

 

[bcla]

Can anyone tell me why and how people resell tickets?

I believe for Disneyland, you need a photo for multiple day tickets so you can't share or sell unused portions. What am I missing here?

This must be more than just some convention goer selling their discount ticket.

Not for two day tickets. The brokers are using those now but the discount is minimal. Why bother?

I understand that the other deal is that they try to convert the used tickets to annual passes that they also try to resell.

 

[bcla]

Requiring photos for the multi day tickets is new at DL and was implemented to try and thwart the resellers who bought the long park-hoppers and sold them day by day to people on Craig's list, etc.

I think the Craigslist sellers were small compared to the ones that operated out of storefronts. There were several gas stations that hosted these brokers. I understand that quite a few have gone out of business after the photo policy.

 

[3Minnies1Mickey]

I think the Craigslist sellers were small compared to the ones that operated out of storefronts. There were several gas stations that hosted these brokers. I understand that quite a few have gone out of business after the photo policy.

The store front places were advertising via Craigslist.

 

[alvernon90]

Even at WDW it wasn't that long ago when there was no check on multi-day tickets. The advice not to buy partially used tickets online was based on the fact that there was no way to verify how many days were actually remaining, if any. The easy solution was to be the reseller instead of the buyer. I did it a few times and it worked out awesome for everyone involved.

Of course, it was small potatoes to sell a pair of park hoppers compared to the storefronts that were ripping people off. Disney decided they were losing too much money, and did something to fix it. Now the same is true at DL, which is too bad. DL felt like a nice little park compared to the industrialized WDW megaplex, but the new photo policy is bringing some of that east coast feeling to Anaheim, apparently.

 

[Disney Dreams]

[QUOTE="alvernon90"... Disney decided they were losing too much money, and did something to fix it. Now the same is true at DL, which is too bad. DL felt like a nice little park compared to the industrialized WDW megaplex, but the new photo policy is bringing some of that east coast feeling to Anaheim, apparently.[/QUOTE]

How is it "too bad" for a Company to protect their own product? People were stealing money right out from under Disney. That's wrong. Disney took steps to protect its product. I don't think anyone can fault them for that.

How does takin photos before entering the Park make Disneyland feel industrialized? I disagree with your sentiment and, as a Disney stockholder, am happy Disney is protecting its product from those who think it's okay to profit off Disney in a shady manner

- Dreams

 

[mom2rtk]

I just hope the new policy at DLR has been so astoundingly successful that they go back to offering longer tickets than 5 days. I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that if I stay a week, I can't buy a 6 or 7 day ticket.

 

[sherilaine]

I just hope the new policy at DLR has been so astoundingly successful that they go back to offering longer tickets than 5 days. I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that if I stay a week, I can't buy a 6 or 7 day ticket.

We just bought APs due to the low # of day tickets you can buy (will be there for 11 nights next month and another week trip next year) and now I am wondering if they are going to return to longer day tickets when the next increase is announced with these new security measures.

However, did WDW have the same problem, did they ever cut back the # of day tickets you could buy because of it or did they always offer up to 10 days? Did DLR used to offer up to 8 day tickets officially?

Just wondering if limiting the # of day tickets is entirely due to fraud or just their perception that people spend fewer days on average at DLR vs. WDW.

 

[mom2rtk]

We just bought APs due to the low # of day tickets you can buy (will be there for 11 nights next month and another week trip next year) and now I am wondering if they are going to return to longer day tickets when the next increase is announced with these new security measures.

However, did WDW have the same problem, did they ever cut back the # of day tickets you could buy because of it or did they always offer up to 10 days? Did DLR used to offer up to 8 day tickets officially?

Just wondering if limiting the # of day tickets is entirely due to fraud or just their perception that people spend fewer days on average at DLR vs. WDW.

I thought about that, but can't justify the price. We're just too far away to make it back for a second trip in the same year. And we hope to be there on the blackout days.

I don't know if they used to offer more days at WDW, but we have always found 10 to be more than adequate. That covers about the longest we can get away for a trip anyway. Our last 2 WDW trips we have purchased and used all 10 days of our passes there and really didn't feel like we needed more.

I'm actually crossing my fingers that DLR decides to offer a Christmas hard ticket party this year. I would use a couple party nights to supplement a 5 day ticket for each of us. But if they don't, I'm really just out of luck. I just don't think I could justify the price of starting over with another 1 or 2 day ticket each.

Every DL trip we've taken has been 2 or 3 days, with us racing from one thing to the next to get it all done. I really just want this one trip to be our chance to do it up right and not miss a thing. I want to see the shows, the parades, all of it, some of it twice. And I just can't wrap my head around maybe being limited to the 5 day ticket max.

 

[Rob S.]

I'm a frequent visitor to WDW so I've been following this story over the past few weeks. Here is a quote from the Orlando Sentinel along with a link to the story.

Capt. Al Rodrigues, who commands the Orange County Sheriff's Office sector that covers Disney World, told lawmakers that a recent investigation turned up a convicted drug dealer who had switched to selling phony theme-park passes to tourists because the existing penalties for the crime are so lax.

"He's making more money than he was in his drug years. He's not facing going to a federal penitentiary — he's not even facing going to state jail. And, frankly, you don't get shot by your opposition when you're selling tickets, the way you do in the drug trade," Rodrigues said.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/the-...-nextgen-ticket-laws-20130329,0,2136300.story