family with 4 month baby forced to disembark

I tend to agree with most here that this likely was done in the baby's best interest with the real concern of dehydration without proper medical care. I don't think DCL suddenly had a change of heart and decided to enforce their 6mo old baby policy in the middle of the cruise.

And no, it's not Disney's responsibility to find a decent hotel room, but I think it's the right thing to do considering the circumstances. It's nice they paid for a room and transportation, but the picture of that room is pretty awful. I don't think it has anything to do with Americans' hotel room standards. That room should suck from anyone's standards. Maybe they couldn't find anything better on NYE or whenever it was, but hopefully DCL tried.
 
And no, it's not Disney's responsibility to find a decent hotel room, but I think it's the right thing to do considering the circumstances. It's nice they paid for a room and transportation, but the picture of that room is pretty awful. I don't think it has anything to do with Americans' hotel room standards. That room should suck from anyone's standards. Maybe they couldn't find anything better on NYE or whenever it was, but hopefully DCL tried.

Your first phrase is right. It's not DCL's responsibility. But I bet they stepped in and helped and tried to give a little pixie dust, not their fault that it's NYE in Nassau and everything is completely booked. They didn't have to pay but they did. Had it been me, I would have told the family to take it or leave it, and I ain't payin'!
 
What makes me question the family's story on this a bit is that I had a good friend whose son developed appendicitis while they were on a Disney Cruise, and she could not have been more impressed by the help and support they got from Disney. Yes, the family needed to leave the ship, but Disney found them a place to stay and got the boy to a hospital (in Mexico) and everything turned out well. She had nothing but praise for how the medical team and DCL people handled the situation.

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If you start throwing up and having diarrhea on the ship, they immediately suspect Norovirus and you are quarantined in you room. Since this was the Dream (3 & 4 night cruises) why didn't DCL just confine them to their room and in 2 days they would be off of the ship :confused3

like others have said - there's probably more to the story than what was reported.

Remember Carnival's woes a few years back ... if you didn't have anything bad to say about the cruise or about the "overflowing sewage" or everyone being sick and Carnival running out of food and drink, the "TV news" "media" didn't want to talk to you as you got off of the ship - those stories didn't fit with the narrative that was being told up to that point and "confirmed" by the correct interviewees.
 
If you start throwing up and having diarrhea on the ship, they immediately suspect Norovirus and you are quarantined in you room. Since this was the Dream (3 & 4 night cruises) why didn't DCL just confine them to their room and in 2 days they would be off of the ship :confused3

These symptoms in an infant, particularly one that young, can be life threatening in a very short period of time. An older child or an adult can handle the symptoms of Norovirus for this short period of time. I don't blame DCL for getting them off the ship.
 
I feel sad for the family... But the rule is the rule. And they received some kind of compensation.

One thing I don't understand: how come nobody (DCL) knew the kid's age before the trip?

Also, did I read correctly that the family paid 1000$/night for their room on the boat? Compared to 1000$/night, any hotel room must look like a fleabag! :lmao:

Also, like everybody else said: travel insurance! :thumbsup2
 
If you start throwing up and having diarrhea on the ship, they immediately suspect Norovirus and you are quarantined in you room. Since this was the Dream (3 & 4 night cruises) why didn't DCL just confine them to their room and in 2 days they would be off of the ship :confused3

like others have said - there's probably more to the story than what was reported.

Remember Carnival's woes a few years back ... if you didn't have anything bad to say about the cruise or about the "overflowing sewage" or everyone being sick and Carnival running out of food and drink, the "TV news" "media" didn't want to talk to you as you got off of the ship - those stories didn't fit with the narrative that was being told up to that point and "confirmed" by the correct interviewees.

2 days for an infant vomiting, is two days too many. Like many have said, infants can become dehydrated VERY quickly. Much better for them to be on land, close to a hospital then to deal with an infant that becomes severely dehydrated and listless then requiring an airlift out. Placing them in their room for two days wouldn't have been in the infant's best interest. Illnesses can get serious much more quickly in small babies that have less mass on them. Personally, I side with the doctor on that one. If the baby was sick and at risk for dehydration or any other sort of medical situation, providing the baby access to the hospital is always going to be better then waiting for an emergency evacuation situation. As a parent, I would want that as well, even if it means ruining my trip. I suspect the baby was vomiting, not just spitting up, as most parents wouldn't take their child to see the on board doctor, had it just been a little episode of "spit up".
 
I feel sad for the family... But the rule is the rule. And they received some kind of compensation.

One thing I don't understand: how come nobody (DCL) knew the kid's age before the trip?

Also, did I read correctly that the family paid 1000$/night for their room on the boat? Compared to 1000$/night, any hotel room must look like a fleabag! :lmao:

Also, like everybody else said: travel insurance! :thumbsup2

Cruises booked before the rule change were grandfathered in so the infant was fine to board the cruise. As others have mentioned, the decision to have them disembark was not because the child was in violation of the age rule, but in all likelihood, due to concern over the medical condition of the infant, the chance that the child's health could take a quick downturn, and that the ship wouldn't have the adequate medical resources needed to treat a child that young if things did get worse.

The $1000/night rate would take into account the number of people in the stateroom and the fact that this would be a peak cruising time. My DD, niece, and I are booked on a 7 night cruise in June on the Fantasy. The current cost for the stateroom with the 3 of us is around $6,000. That works out to about $857/night. Must be an expensive stateroom for that price, right? Nope, inside deluxe stateroom. A veranda stateroom would have been over $1000/night.
 
First and foremost, the media usually seeks to vilify someone in every story. Makes for good reading/ratings.

I can tell you firsthand that the media will take bits of stories and weave them as needed to create something interesting to garner more readership/ratings. Take what you read/hear in the media with a grain of salt. Always. They're going to make any story into something that will get you going because if they don't, especially in this day & age, nobody will pay attention.

As to this story.... I read it that the family was disembarked for possible medical risks to the infant. It's likely Disney chose to change their minimum age limit due to the medical staff's ability to care for infants under the specified age. If a sick child who was grandfathered onboard shows any signs that they might even possibly be ill I can easily see why liability dictates the family be disembarked. It's not pretty but this is the world we live in. Had they stayed onboard and the baby gotten very sick and dehydrated they may not have had the ability to save it. Babies go down so fast. It could happen. Then the world would be screaming foul because the baby didn't make it. Seems like there's no winning.

Another piece of info that points to this family being disembarked for medical reasons is the fact that the doctor informed the family that they needed to pack up & leave the ship. If it had been a policy thing I think it would've come from an officer who represents DCL.

Like others have stated, TRAVEL INSURANCE! It's nice that Disney even assisted this family with hotel, transportation, etc. to get them home. It's certainly not their responsibility. If you go on a cruise you have to know and prepare for illness, injury, etc. I personally don't think leaving my family's wellbeing up to what Disney may or may not elect to do for us in the time of illness or emergency as proper planning. My family is my responsibility, nobody else's. This is EXACTLY why I cruise with travel insurance. I think particularly with family members who are more at risk (elderly, youth, known health problems, etc.) it would be even more paramount in the planning process. Correct me if I'm wrong but every time I've played with the booking engine on DCL's website I've had to push the travel insurance off the reservation to see the final tally without it. Is that right? I'm not sure. Either way, the travel insurance is not something easy to miss.

Not judging this family. I'm sorry for their experience. I do think there's a strong likelihood that there's more to the story. We've only heard 1 side retold in the media. We won't hear anything from Disney for privacy reasons.

Moral of the story: Travel Insurance and planning!

Quick question about this..I have always bought private insurance so I don't know the answer but if you have DCL insurance do they automatically cover your medical bills should you see the doctor on board? I know when my daughter saw the Dr on the ship we were charged, payed cash, and then had to submit everything to our home insurance, and then to our travel insurance before it would be reimbursed. Curious to know if it is different with DCL insurance. Also if you have DCL insurance and situations like these arise, do they pay for your return flights/ hotel rooms right away? I have always heard that DCL insurance covers less but in a situation like this, I am wondering if DCL does more up front with those costs. Thanks.

And yes, I have always had to deny their insurance when booking, so if this family didn't have it, they also had to deny it at some point. I never cruise without travel insurance either. With 6 of us, something always happens to someone. It is Murphy's law. :crazy2:
 
I tend to agree with most here that this likely was done in the baby's best interest with the real concern of dehydration without proper medical care. I don't think DCL suddenly had a change of heart and decided to enforce their 6mo old baby policy in the middle of the cruise.

And no, it's not Disney's responsibility to find a decent hotel room, but I think it's the right thing to do considering the circumstances. It's nice they paid for a room and transportation, but the picture of that room is pretty awful. I don't think it has anything to do with Americans' hotel room standards. That room should suck from anyone's standards. Maybe they couldn't find anything better on NYE or whenever it was, but hopefully DCL tried.

is there a picture? i have not been able to find one, can't even find out which hotel they were put into. do you have a link?
 
The hotel is not identified but there is a picture of a room-presumably theirs- posted with the story linked in the first post.
 
If you start throwing up and having diarrhea on the ship, they immediately suspect Norovirus and you are quarantined in you room. Since this was the Dream (3 & 4 night cruises) why didn't DCL just confine them to their room and in 2 days they would be off of the ship :confused3

like others have said - there's probably more to the story than what was reported.

Because this was a four month old infant. That virus could kill a baby that young.

One thing I don't understand: how come nobody (DCL) knew the kid's age before the trip?

The child's age was not relevant. This baby was grandfathered in due to the time of the booking. If the baby hadn't gotten sick, they would have completed the cruise. I haven't any idea why it began to get around that they threw the family off the ship because the baby was too young to be onboard. This is apparently not the case. From the coverage, it sounds like the parents or someone (have they got a lawyer?) is asserting that the family didn't consider the child to be seriously ill and Disney maybe had another reason for kicking them off the ship.
 
I think the Doctor was being cautious, maybe overly so. I got hurt on the WBPC in May 2014, I was accidently pushed into a table playing a game in Wavebands. I had a bump on my head, and my elbow and knee also were affected. I went to the doctor and he confirmed the bump on my head, said it was ok, then looked at my knee that was swollen and immediately prescribed antibiotics. I declined, but took a plastic bag to put ice on my knee and I had Advil with me. Every doctor that I spoke to afterwards that saw me or I knew, even people who weren't doctors gave me a look like why would he prescribe antibiotics?
 
Quick question about this..I have always bought private insurance so I don't know the answer but if you have DCL insurance do they automatically cover your medical bills should you see the doctor on board? I know when my daughter saw the Dr on the ship we were charged, payed cash, and then had to submit everything to our home insurance, and then to our travel insurance before it would be reimbursed. Curious to know if it is different with DCL insurance. Also if you have DCL insurance and situations like these arise, do they pay for your return flights/ hotel rooms right away? I have always heard that DCL insurance covers less but in a situation like this, I am wondering if DCL does more up front with those costs. Thanks.
The DCL insurance is through an outside company (currently Transamerica Casualty Insurance Company) not DCL (DCL sells it, and it's a special policy for them, but they don't administer it). And the ship's doctor is an independent contractor, not a part of Disney. So my educated guess would be that it would work the same as for "private" insurance. You pay the doctor, then get re-imbursed by the insurance company. And I'd assume the same would be true for the return flights/hotel room. This comes under Trip Interruption coverage, which the DCL policy does cover (up to a certain dollar amount.) What you can do is call the insurance company right away (they have a 24/7 Emergency phone service) and they might take care of some of the expenses for you up front, but DCL isn't involved in that.

The hotel is not identified but there is a picture of a room-presumably theirs- posted with the story linked in the first post.
Presumably. There's no indication that it really is their room. And seeing how the person who wrote the article seems to be playing fairly loosely with the facts, there's no guarantee it is.

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Kicking them off the ship because of medical reasons for a four month old baby, okay fine I get that, but not putting them in an equivalent accommodations (especially since the reservation qualifiers changed after booking) and doing so without hassle, way to miss the boat (no pun intended) Disney. You could have had a PR win but failed both the customer and your reputation.
 
Kicking them off the ship because of medical reasons for a four month old baby, okay fine I get that, but not putting them in an equivalent accommodations (especially since the reservation qualifiers changed after booking) and doing so without hassle, way to miss the boat (no pun intended) Disney. You could have had a PR win but failed both the customer and your reputation.

It's not disney's job to pay for accommodations. That is why they say you should get trip insurance in case anything happens. Also, maybe the nicer hotels were booked so disney did the best they could. Like I said, disney did not have to pay for a thing but they did.
 
Wow. Instead of the headline reading "Disney Cruise Officials say 4 month old baby was too young to be on ship, family forced off ship", it should read more like "Disney Cruise officials medically evacuate sick 4 month old, possible saving its life, and even pay for hotel and airfare accommodations for family even though they have no obligation do to so (and strongly recommend trip insurance for such scenarios)."

I guess that is a bit too long to be a headline so the reporter chose the former version instead. :confused3

Makes me wonder about this newspaper and their reporters, honestly.
 

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