Epcot moonlight magic February registration

[Wiltony]

wouldn't you have to have 4 reservations, one at each property, to get 4 chances?

Yes in the case of the early registration, but I was talking about the general registration.

 

[muppets3d]

Ok so this got me thinking. Do members that own different properties have multiple membership numbers, giving them more chances for a better position in the queue? Like if someone owns 500 points across four properties, can they get on four devices and get four different queue IDs for the general registration?

I own 510 points but it's all at the same property and use year, and I oniy have one membership ID, so I was wondering if that was a disadvantage for me.

It certainly is a disadvantage for me for the "once per year" point transfer in/out rule.

You can have multiple membership numbers if you have different use years.

If people are going through all that just to get some free mickey bars, well I guess that's one way to spend your time.

 

[Wiltony]

You can have multiple membership numbers if you have different use years.

If people are going through all that just to get some free mickey bars, well I guess that's one way to spend your time.

Yeah love to see how the value or interest in MM is dismissed and disparaged once a legitimate disparity is identified. Classy.

 

[muppets3d]

Yeah love to see how the value or interest in MM is dismissed and disparaged once a legitimate disparity is identified. Classy.

The barriers to entry of that are so high I don't really view it as a legitimate issue, personally. You either have to have people who bought multiple use years a decade or more ago (and so are grandfathered in to DVC-Y) or purchased multiple use years of direct points. And they're using them to attempt Moonlight Magic. I just question how often this actually happens. And if it did happen, would DVC catch it and cancel one or more registration because even though there are multiple memberships it's the same eligible member.

It's like when people talk about favorite weeks interrupting walking. So few have been sold compared to the number of villas available at any given resort I doubt it is possible to actually have an impact.

 

[Wiltony]

The barriers to entry of that are so high I don't really view it as a legitimate issue, personally. You either have to have people who bought multiple use years a decade or more ago (and so are grandfathered in to DVC-Y) or purchased multiple use years of direct points. And they're using them to attempt Moonlight Magic. I just question how often this actually happens. And if it did happen, would DVC catch it and cancel one or more registration because even though there are multiple memberships it's the same eligible member.

It's like when people talk about favorite weeks interrupting walking. So few have been sold compared to the number of villas available at any given resort I doubt it is possible to actually have an impact.

They just closed the multi-device exploit because it was a big problem. That's all you need to know as to how "little of an issue" this is.

And now the only people who can continue to join the queue multiple times are those who have multiple membership IDs. This presents a significant advantage, especially when compounded over multiple opportunities to sign up for something like this.

For example, owner 1 has 500 points with one membership ID, so gets one random assignment to the queue.

Owner 2 has 500 points but has four IDs and so gets out their phone, tablet, laptop, etc. and gets four random assignments to the queue. Quadrupling their chances for an early placement. Every single time. The compounded advantage is huge. all because of how DVC structured membership IDs.

Unless Disney is somehow linking multiple membership IDs for a single owner, and thus to a single queue ID, this is a significant advantage for being able to get a ticket to any MM event.

 

[muppets3d]

They just closed the multi-device exploit because it was a big problem. That's all you need to know as to how "little of an issue" this is.

And now the only people who can continue to join the queue multiple times are those who have multiple membership IDs. This presents a significant advantage, especially when compounded over multiple opportunities to sign up for something like this.

For example, owner 1 has 500 points with one membership ID, so gets one random assignment to the queue.

Owner 2 has 500 points but has four IDs and so gets out their phone, tablet, laptop, etc. and gets four random assignments to the queue. Quadrupling their chances for an early placement. Every single time. The compounded advantage is huge. all because of how DVC structured membership IDs.

Unless Disney is somehow linking multiple membership IDs for a single owner, and thus to a single queue ID, this is a significant advantage to being able to get a ticket to any MM event.

I wouldn't be surprised if DVC does prevent a member from succeeding in registering for multiple MM events in a season, even with multiple memberships. It's not like it's hard to see someone's name multiple times in a list, then they can do a quick check to see if it's the same person or just the same name. So while they may or may not be able to actually register, I seriously doubt the registrations will stick.

 

[DIS Fan from IL]

Had an initial wait time of 21 minutes on Tuesday and didn't get in. Got an initial wait time of less than a minute today and got tickets.

Feeling very, very, very fortunate.

 

[melk]

Got Epcot at 11:12

 

[Wiltony]

Got locked out of Epcot again. Rolled 9 mins, got in at 11:14

"Event is at capacity"

Screw you DVC

 

[Moonspinner]

They just closed the multi-device exploit because it was a big problem. That's all you need to know as to how "little of an issue" this is.

And now the only people who can continue to join the queue multiple times are those who have multiple membership IDs. This presents a significant advantage, especially when compounded over multiple opportunities to sign up for something like this.

For example, owner 1 has 500 points with one membership ID, so gets one random assignment to the queue.

Owner 2 has 500 points but has four IDs and so gets out their phone, tablet, laptop, etc. and gets four random assignments to the queue. Quadrupling their chances for an early placement. Every single time. The compounded advantage is huge. all because of how DVC structured membership IDs.

Unless Disney is somehow linking multiple membership IDs for a single owner, and thus to a single queue ID, this is a significant advantage for being able to get a ticket to any MM event.

People do this. I have read about it on these boards. They also get multiple waitlists and have talked about it as a benefit of having more than one membership. We have a lot of points but only one membership, so I guess we are stupid.

There are a lot of great points being discussed on this thread! I’m catching up while waiting to not get tickets in general registration lol. I love these:

1. Tickets 100% need to be tied to names. Just like park tickets, party tickets, etc. I bet this would open up 25% of tickets right away.

2. YouTubers need to be banned from monetizing event. Most of them don’t even want to be there and wouldn’t go if they couldn’t monetize.

[I can’t believe this but just got reservations in general registration.]

3. I love the idea of signing up ahead of time and Disney notifying you if you got it. I know I have to clear my deck at work to get in the line and it is really annoying when I don’t get the tickets.

I kind of like the direct point only idea (we have about 600 direct so it would work for us) but at the same time I think the blue card is a good barrier and I’d probably leave it at that. Dh mentioned that registration should be tiered according to how many points you own, like DCL where you get to book earlier according to your Castaway status. This would also benefit us, but I have mixed feelings about that too. I think if DVC would just do this three things above that would make a huge diff towards making the process fairer. They have to do something, because I know if this system is teeing me off, that it is teeing other members off too— I have learned to my dismay over the years that I am not unique for the most part lol- and I do not think DVC wants to annoy people. The YouTuber thing is an especially sore point because it opens the “wound” after it has already healed months later when you see them galavanting around and monetizing an event which they really shouldn’t be doing by any logical reasoning.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

No matter what they do, someone will always walk away with out-turned pockets.

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They just closed the multi-device exploit because it was a big problem. That's all you need to know as to how "little of an issue" this is.

And now the only people who can continue to join the queue multiple times are those who have multiple membership IDs. This presents a significant advantage, especially when compounded over multiple opportunities to sign up for something like this.

For example, owner 1 has 500 points with one membership ID, so gets one random assignment to the queue.

Owner 2 has 500 points but has four IDs and so gets out their phone, tablet, laptop, etc. and gets four random assignments to the queue. Quadrupling their chances for an early placement. Every single time. The compounded advantage is huge. all because of how DVC structured membership IDs.

Unless Disney is somehow linking multiple membership IDs for a single owner, and thus to a single queue ID, this is a significant advantage for being able to get a ticket to any MM event.

In your hypothetical owner 2 would need to have 4 separate burner reservations for the moonlight magic date. This doesn’t seem like a realistic concern.

 

[Disneybuckeye]

We missed out both days too.

 

[NicoleLarson]

Had a 10 min wait, took 16 min to get in. Epcot was full but AK, and DW were still available. Those dates do not work, only wanted EP, sounds like most people had the same idea

 

[Wiltony]

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In your hypothetical owner 2 would need to have 4 separate burner reservations for the moonlight magic date. This doesn’t seem like a realistic concern.

Dude, no lol this was already covered above

You don't need any reservations for general registration

 

[VGCgroupie]

Ok so this got me thinking. Do members that own different properties have multiple membership numbers, giving them more chances for a better position in the queue? Like if someone owns 500 points across four properties, can they get on four devices and get four different queue IDs for the general registration?

I own 510 points but it's all at the same property and use year, and I oniy have one membership ID, so I was wondering if that was a disadvantage for me.

It certainly is a disadvantage for me for the "once per year" point transfer in/out rule.

This is actually a very good question. I think people may have jumped on it negatively due to using 4 memberships as an example. But I would like to know the answer to this.

If I bought more direct to make my 2nd membership a blue card could I get 5 tickets during general registration and get the remaining 1 or 2 I need for my party size during general registration with my other membership? I and my husband are in all of our memberships. This could solve the I have 6/7 people in my family problem for general registration. Or as an example I could not get a 2 bedroom for my MM only a studio so my daughter will be staying off property. As of now my granddaughter doesn’t need a ticket but in a few years she will and we will be above the 5 people threshold.

 

[Moonspinner]

This is actually a very good question. I think people may have jumped on it negatively due to using 4 memberships as an example. But I would like to know the answer to this.

If I bought more direct to make my 2nd membership a blue card could I get 5 tickets during general registration and get the remaining 1 or 2 I need for my party size during general registration with my other membership? I and my husband are in all of our memberships. This could solve the I have 6/7 people in my family problem for general registration. Or as an example I could not get a 2 bedroom for my MM only a studio so my daughter will be staying off property. As of now my granddaughter doesn’t need a ticket but in a few years she will and we will be above the 5 people threshold.

Yes, this can be done. People have talked about it on these boards. But they talked about it in terms of having another “shot” not in terms of extra tickets. Like they would book a reservation with each membership and cancel the one that didn’t get the MM tickets assuming that was the scenario. I don’t think it is against the rules. If we had two memberships I’d probably do it lol.

 

[Genie+]

Hypothetical question on General Registration:

We have 2 memberships because even though same UY, we only included our ‘kids’ on the direct contract. Our resale membership is just DH and I.

So far the way it has worked if I used my resale to book a stay on MM night, I’d still qualify for Early Registration. I’d need to use my resale membership number to enter the queue. The system would see my qualifying DVC room reservation and then check for blue card status. In this way a Membership Number with only resale works. If I tried to use our Direct membership number in this case, the system wouldn’t accept it because no room reservation was attached.

I’m assuming General Registration would not have the ability to enter a membership number tied to resale only? Unlike Early Registration that first filters by room reservation, does General Registration first filter for Blue Card status of a membership?

 

[gatordoc]

Had an initial wait time of 21 minutes on Tuesday and didn't get in. Got an initial wait time of less than a minute today and got tickets.

Feeling very, very, very fortunate.

We were similar. Had a 22 minute wait on Tuesday and didn’t make it, but 2 minutes today and got in. I’m not agreeing with the conspiracy theorists (because I do think waits are randomly assigned) but I logged in to the site 2 hours ahead of time on Tuesday, whereas today I waited until about 10 minutes ahead of time to log in.

 

[Sandisw]

Ok so this got me thinking. Do members that own different properties have multiple membership numbers, giving them more chances for a better position in the queue? Like if someone owns 500 points across four properties, can they get on four devices and get four different queue IDs for the general registration?

I own 510 points but it's all at the same property and use year, and I oniy have one membership ID, so I was wondering if that was a disadvantage for me.

It certainly is a disadvantage for me for the "once per year" point transfer in/out rule.

It’s based on memberships but you still have to have a qualifying reservation on each one and you have to have a different owner as the one who is registering.

I have three UYs which gives me three membership. Technically, I could book a reservation on each and have me try on one, DH on another and DS on the third since he is an owner.

But, my guess is that very few owners, if any, would be going to that length to hold multiple reservations and tie up points this way.

 

[Sandisw]

Hypothetical question on General Registration:

We have 2 memberships because even though same UY, we only included our ‘kids’ on the direct contract. Our resale membership is just DH and I.

So far the way it has worked if I used my resale to book a stay on MM night, I’d still qualify for Early Registration. I’d need to use my resale membership number to enter the queue. The system would see my qualifying DVC room reservation and then check for blue card status. In this way a Membership Number with only resale works. If I tried to use our Direct membership number in this case, the system wouldn’t accept it because no room reservation was attached.

I’m assuming General Registration would not have the ability to enter a membership number tied to resale only? Unlike Early Registration that first filters by room reservation, does General Registration first filter for Blue Card status of a membership?

You’d need to add an eligible membership number.