Environmental Impact

catherine

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The current news on the Disaster News Network states among other things that the clean-up will probably take years, drinking water was not expected to be restored to some areas for years and pumping the contaminated waters from the city into the Gulf of Mexico could create environmental concerns there as well. Once the water has been drained from the city, officials will then have to deal with treating contaminates left in the ground.


"There's no way to deal with a catastrophe environmentally of this magnitude and not have environmental impacts," said Hugh Kaufman, a senior policy analyst for emergency response at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. "You're gonna have them. What you want to do is minimize them, and that costs money. I mean, we're talking about big money. We're talking about like how much money we're putting into Iraq."

The rest of the article can be found at http://www.disasternews.net/news/news.php?articleid=2818
 
You just have to see the coloration of the water :scared1:
This will take a long time to be cleaned up again. The Gulf of Mexico can't be cleaned that easily. A lot of this stuff has flowed back into it and there's more to come. This will not only be an environmental disaster at land but also at sea.
 
Viking said:
You just have to see the coloration of the water :scared1:
This will take a long time to be cleaned up again. The Gulf of Mexico can't be cleaned that easily. A lot of this stuff has flowed back into it and there's more to come. This will not only be an environmental disaster at land but also at sea.

On today's news an environmental expert stated that there's going to be an environmental disaster in the Gulf of Mexico!
 
Just a couple very small incidents along the Florida Gulf Coast has increased nutrients and there has been unprecidented red tides pretty much all year.

Dumping all of those nutrients (raw sewage, fertilizer, whatever) into the Gulf will only make it worse. And the water temperatures being so high right now, this can potentially be an event that will kill most of the coastal gulf.

Ted
 

That's a very good, reasoned article. There are reasons to be concerned with the Gulf and the lake, but I don't think they are the biggest issues. Here are a couple of responses I posted on an earlier thread about those:
Originally Posted by catherine
I just heard on the news that this is going to cause an environmental disaster in the Gulf of Mexico!
What you get in major rain events like this is localized catastrophic effect (not environmental disaster), and it doesn't matter whether the water coming into the Gulf is clean or contaminated. It's fresh water pouring into a highly-saline gulf at a rate far above normal flow. So you get a very rapid desalinization of a localized area.

You can expect large fish kills all along the coast, and the news media will blame them on contaminated water, but it's really just the shock of the fresh water.

We get the same thing here every major rain event. Our flood control system diverts water to holding areas and canals, and water managers try to hold it there and disperse it gradually. But sometimes they just can't store any more without flooding and they have to dump.
Originally Posted by lovethattink
Won't the e-coli contaminated water being pumped out of NO infect the water source it's being pumped to?
I'm not familiar with Lake Ponchatrain (nor do I know how to spell it), but natural lakes tend to take care of that on their own. They have one area of dense vegetation which rises from the lake bed through and above the water level (called the littoral zone) and abundant vegetation on the bed itself. That vegetation just gobbles up nasty stuff -- to the point actually, that we are creating man-made littoral zones in the Everglades as one aspect of Everglades Restoration.

The same question came up after the hurricanes in Florida. The Everglades Agricultural Area (a huge farming area around the south shore of Lake Okeechobee) was flooded and had to be pumped out. There was no option but to pump that heavily contaminated (phosphorus from fertilizer, mercury from pesticides) water back into Lake Okeechobee.

Those hurricanes were in the late summer. In December, I took an training tour of the Lake Okeechobee littoral zone with South Florida Water Management District and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers scientists. Short story -- the lake is fine. We are somewhat concerned about mercury moving up the food chain and affecting the osprey in the area, but that will work itself out.

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To understand the "local catastrophic effect" mentioned above, think about spilling gasoline while mowing your yard. You end up with a dead area where the gas killed the grass. It also probably killed any insects in the immediate area. But the rest of your yard is okay. In time the grass will grow back.

Local catastophic effects happen all the time in nature. They're part of nature. Nature adjusts. Don't forget that a hurricane, even a Hellish one like Katrina is a force of nature, and a natural part of the system.

The much tougher challenges are the toxic waste cleanup on land, and restoring water supply. I don't know the hydrology of the NO area, or what their water source is, but the estimates of years rather than weeks sounds quite reasonable to me. It's the kind of estimate a lot of people will read and say, "Naw, that ain't right!" but I wouldn't be surprised if it took two years.
 
If this is happening along the Florida coast:

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/12442372.htm

It could happen along the the northern part of the Gulf.

This is serious impact. There are reports of sections of the coast of Florida being dead all the way to the bottom for miles. Sometimes, you need to go 30 miles out to find anything alove.

Also keep in mind that a lot of the seafood in the Gulf will aos be contaminated by whatever is pumped or drained from New Orleans and other areas. This will have a serious impact on that industry as well.

While the news media does tend to sensationalize things, I don't think it is responisible to discount this entirely.

Ted
 


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