Ebay seller tells me it's Vero not OKW after sale

MOQu

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OK. So I know it's my fault for going the Ebay route. I was cautious with the whole process. I didn't send any money, so I didn't lose out, but what a bait-and-switch!

The listing was clearly for 50 points at OKW. Winning bid was $3875 with BuyItNow. Today, the seller emails me she made a mistake and the proerty is Vero Beach, but "It's very nice and close to Disney"

WHAT A SCAM!

Just purchased 45 points at a reputable agency for $84/point with 45 2005 points available now and 45 more 9/06 . Figured I'd better pay more per point and hopefully get part ROFR.
 
I'm no lawyer, and I know next to nothing about EBay's honesty policies, but I'd be pretty sure that you can challenge this "purchase" any number of ways, including discussing the seller's dishonest practice with Disney.
 
Now that's just wrong! :mad: Shame on them. Have you looked at the board sponsor's resales? I'm so sorry they did that to you. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
 
I looked for the listing to see how its written, but can't find it in the completed listings.

:confused3
 

Definately dispute it! Especially since it is off-site and besides Vero resales are a lot cheaper than OKW, so it isn't even a good deal. Hope it works out for you.
 
That's one way to get $78 per point for VB!

She can't possibly be expecting a check in the mail!
 
Ebay can become quite a pissing contest between buyer and seller if you don't watch you.

Number 1 -- Keep copies of everything! Print out copies of the auction listing, print out copies of the email sent to you with the change in resort.

The seller can give you negative feedback, one negative feedback isn't the end of the world, but it always seems best to keep your feedback rating clean. They can also lable you as a non-paying bidder. They have an incentive to do this actually. The seller is going to have to pay fees to Ebay for listing the auction and additional fees because the item sold. The fees are based on the winning bid. This is not going to be cheap. If the seller files a complaint that you did not pay for the item, they get some of the fees waived.

The seller is at fault here, so you as the buyer should not have to worry about any of this. How I would approach it is to contact the seller and tell them that they obviously misrepresented the item in the listing. That you wanted OKW, you bid on OWK and you intended to buy OKW. You have no interest in Vero, you know it is a nice resort, but it is not want you wanted. That if they can produce the OKW points as advertised, that you will be happy to complete the sale, but that you will not be paying for the Vero points.

I would also let them know that you feel that they should not leave you negative feedback, as the misrepresented the auction and should not hold you responsible as a non-paying bidder. That you agree to file no complaints against them for mis-representing the item, if they file no complaints against you. This lets both of you walk away. If it really was a mistake on their part, this is a nice way to handle it. You owe nothing, you don't have any complaints against you to deal with and you give the seller the benefit of the doubt.

If they don't agree, then stand up foryourself and fight back. -- Leave Negative Feedback, you only have 80 characters or so, but leave something like "Item mis-represented was for a resort 100s of miles away from OKW - bait and switch!" or something like that. They will leave you feedback, you can post a response, be sure and do that.

They may file a non-paying bidder complaint against you, respond to it with a copy of the email where they attempted to change to terms of the sale, also copy your letter where you said that if they produce the item you actually purchased that you will proceed with the sale.

Now if you are really pissed, I would watch for this sellers future auctions and see if they relist OKW. If they do you are able to send messages via Ebay to the bidders. I would email the bidders and warn them about what happened to you, that based on your experience, the seller has no OKW points but is attempting a bait and switch.
 
MOQu said:
OK. So I know it's my fault for going the Ebay route. I was cautious with the whole process. I didn't send any money, so I didn't lose out, but what a bait-and-switch!

The listing was clearly for 50 points at OKW. Winning bid was $3875 with BuyItNow. Today, the seller emails me she made a mistake and the proerty is Vero Beach, but "It's very nice and close to Disney"

WHAT A SCAM!

Just purchased 45 points at a reputable agency for $84/point with 45 2005 points available now and 45 more 9/06 . Figured I'd better pay more per point and hopefully get part ROFR.

It's probably just as well that you found out because I would doubt that the 50 point contract at OKW for around $78 would have even passed ROFR. DVC has been actively ROFRing smaller contracts, even those at prices above the "market". I would actually be interested to know if the 45 pt contract at $84 passes. If it is at OKW then I would think it "should" but these days you never know.

Good luck and keep us posted! :wizard:
 
I was curious so I went and found the auction.

I am going to bet it was an honest mistake. The seller has been a member of Ebay since 2000, so it was not a new account setup for a Scam.

According to feedback the seller has sold items before, but never any Timeshares, so it looks like an individual trying to sell some of their points. A scammer is not likely to have past sales for collectible dolls, dresses etc.

It looks like the copied a lot of the text out of other auctions. My guess is that they have Vero and OKW points, and the person posting got confused about which points they intended to sell.

Even though it looks to me to be an innocent mistake, they should not take any action against the buyer for the sellers mistake here.
 
You can dispute it and SHOULD dispute if from E-bay (DO NOT PAY) The item is grossly different from what you bought... Once the listing closes the seller can not make changes so the page should reflect the item you thought you were bidding on.
 
The auction for "50 Disney Vacation Club Points" states repeatedly that it is Old Key West, with a picture of the same. Granted, even for Vero $77.50/point isn't too bad, but still that's not what you bought.

I see the seller is registered with Square Trade. Sign up with them on the eBay site and launch and inquiry if the seller won't make things right.

Honest mistake or no, if I buy a Toyota, I want a Toyota, not a Hyundai.

The seller has no ground to stand on. Don't bother with feedback and start that war. Work through Square Trade - they will arbitrate the whole thing.
 
How in the world could someone mistake OKW for VB :confused3 .I dont really think it was a honest mistake.
 
MOQu said:
OK. So I know it's my fault for going the Ebay route. I was cautious with the whole process. I didn't send any money, so I didn't lose out, but what a bait-and-switch!

The listing was clearly for 50 points at OKW. Winning bid was $3875 with BuyItNow. Today, the seller emails me she made a mistake and the proerty is Vero Beach, but "It's very nice and close to Disney"

WHAT A SCAM!

Just purchased 45 points at a reputable agency for $84/point with 45 2005 points available now and 45 more 9/06 . Figured I'd better pay more per point and hopefully get part ROFR.

Sorry that happened. Before jumping on the seller -- was it simply a mistake? If they made a mistake I could see them asking if you still want it being it is VB instead of OKW. If you say no and they say okay I think it is a no harm no foul situation.

If they press you to buy anyway then you might remind them that they misrepresented the property and that you purchased OKW and that is what they must deliver to you.
 
luvindisneyworld said:
How in the world could someone mistake OKW for VB :confused3 .I dont really think it was a honest mistake.
I can see it happening to somebody who wasn't that involved in the orginial purchase, assuming the family used the points at OKW each year.
 
I would check out the Square Trade site. Even to rent on ebay you have to be "certified for real estate transactions"

I think it is enforcable if you want it and they truly own both.
 
If it's an honest mistake, I doubt the seller will press you to proceed. If you are interested at a reduced cost, let the person know. If you are not at any cost, I might have some interest at a much lower price for Aug or Dec. Others might have depending on specifics as well. If they press you to buy, I'm sure you'll have no problem disputing the issue. Let us know what happens.
 













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