DVC Survey

[boiseflyfisher]

Curious if you just noticed it this morning or if it actually was sent this morning. If sent this morning this gives me hope more of us will get one.

I got mine this morning, so it must be round two.

 

[boiseflyfisher]

Curious if you just noticed it this morning or if it actually was sent this morning. If sent this morning this gives me hope more of us will get one.

I got mine this morning, so it must be round two.

 

[Cfabar1]

One transfer in and out would def provide more flexibility and still be a restriction, I think thats a good compromise, its too harsh right now imo

Especially for members juggling multiple UY...

I travel typically in the following months for longer trips:

November
December
March
May
June
July

I'd be open to a 2nd UY... but 1 transfer per year makes it very tricky!

DEC UY works very well for me overall, other than those November trips... I don't want to book a week at HHI and have to cancel and be out a week worth of points!

But, I'd like to not have to manage that November trip exclusively with a different contract....

So I have only 1 UY, and deal with the consequences....

 

[Cfabar1]

If anyone has screenshots, would be terrific to see the full survey...

 

[Girlstar30]

Especially for members juggling multiple UY...

I travel typically in the following months for longer trips:

November
December
March
May
June
July

I'd be open to a 2nd UY... but 1 transfer per year makes it very tricky!

DEC UY works very well for me overall, other than those November trips... I don't want to book a week at HHI and have to cancel and be out a week worth of points!

But, I'd like to not have to manage that November trip exclusively with a different contract....

So I have only 1 UY, and deal with the consequences....

The only advantage i see for the multiple memberships for me are the waitlists. I wouldn't be able to have 6 of them with one uy.

Now we will see how effective that works as ive never had 6 at a time

The one transfer and three memberships makes it near impossible for you not to have to buy otup or beg them to let you transfer again, especially if you're on borrowed points like me and cant bank. Ive had to do both to make this work.

 

[DMPicone]

Looking over this survey it seems like it could only apply to the purchase of new points at new resorts within the new trust model. I think we will hear more about this when Lakeside opens since it will likely be the first time two resorts are in the trust. Since your contract doesn't attach you to a room anymore, I wonder if it really even attaches you to a resort. Perhaps they are going to give trust members access to all trust resorts with priority access based on trust points owned. I'm not sure of the legality, I think it's legal from what I've read, but DVC could stop selling direct to existing resorts and instead sell those contracts to the trust allowing them to charge trust members a fee to access the home resort priority of the points owned by the trust. The 7 months would still be open to any direct member.

I'm not sure how much can or will really change with the existing resorts, but I think a lot could change for future resorts and as resorts get more contract turnover. The big question mark everyone has is what happens after 50 years, it seems like if the trust doesn't have any attached resorts it solves that problem by allowing them to kill the cabins early if they don't sell well and shifting those trusted points to the vacated Saratoga Resort when the deeded contracts end. They can sell 50 year contracts every day and they always have full value with complete flexibility as long as DVC can provide rooms to back the points.

 

[J-Dog]

Looking over this survey it seems like it could only apply to the purchase of new points at new resorts within the new trust model. I think we will hear more about this when Lakeside opens since it will likely be the first time two resorts are in the trust. Since your contract doesn't attach you to a room anymore, I wonder if it really even attaches you to a resort. Perhaps they are going to give trust members access to all trust resorts with priority access based on trust points owned. I'm not sure of the legality, I think it's legal from what I've read, but DVC could stop selling direct to existing resorts and instead sell those contracts to the trust allowing them to charge trust members a fee to access the home resort priority of the points owned by the trust. The 7 months would still be open to any direct member.

I'm not sure how much can or will really change with the existing resorts, but I think a lot could change for future resorts and as resorts get more contract turnover. The big question mark everyone has is what happens after 50 years, it seems like if the trust doesn't have any attached resorts it solves that problem by allowing them to kill the cabins early if they don't sell well and shifting those trusted points to the vacated Saratoga Resort when the deeded contracts end. They can sell 50 year contracts every day and they always have full value with complete flexibility as long as DVC can provide rooms to back the points.

I don't know about anyone else, and no offense intended, but based on the thread from last year in which 100's of pages of brainstorming about the trust turned out to be much ado about nothing, I'll believe anything related to this new trust when it's announced by Disney, and not before.

 

[lowlight]

I think it's legal from what I've read, but DVC could stop selling direct to existing resorts and instead sell those contracts to the trust allowing them to charge trust members a fee to access the home resort priority of the points owned by the trust. The 7 months would still be open to any direct member.

I know you’re just being hypothetical, but that would be bad. You want to piss off a large percentage of owners? Because that’s how you piss off a large percentage of owners.

 

[baloocrew]

I received a DVC survey today asking what additional benefits would impact my decision to purchase DVC. Two of the options posted concerned me as current owner.
1 - early booking for a fee. Which would allow booking 12 months in advance
2 - booking based on number of points owned
I am noy happy with either potential option as both take away the even playing field for all owners.
Did anyone else receive this survey?

And that's when I sell.

 

[Sandisw]

Looking over this survey it seems like it could only apply to the purchase of new points at new resorts within the new trust model. I think we will hear more about this when Lakeside opens since it will likely be the first time two resorts are in the trust. Since your contract doesn't attach you to a room anymore, I wonder if it really even attaches you to a resort. Perhaps they are going to give trust members access to all trust resorts with priority access based on trust points owned. I'm not sure of the legality, I think it's legal from what I've read, but DVC could stop selling direct to existing resorts and instead sell those contracts to the trust allowing them to charge trust members a fee to access the home resort priority of the points owned by the trust. The 7 months would still be open to any direct member.

I'm not sure how much can or will really change with the existing resorts, but I think a lot could change for future resorts and as resorts get more contract turnover. The big question mark everyone has is what happens after 50 years, it seems like if the trust doesn't have any attached resorts it solves that problem by allowing them to kill the cabins early if they don't sell well and shifting those trusted points to the vacated Saratoga Resort when the deeded contracts end. They can sell 50 year contracts every day and they always have full value with complete flexibility as long as DVC can provide rooms to back the points.

The way the trust is set up is that they add inventory to it.

Right now, it’s the CFW cabins. Once there is inventory, DVD creates a RTU plan and then activates inventory into that plan.

They can hafe mulple RTU plans, each with its own inventory or combined.

They can set up trading any way they want for whatever rules they put in place.

The trust allows them to activate inventory from different component sites in the same RTU plan. All those rooms become an owner’s home resort.

They can also activate new resorts into their own RTU plan and set it up for trading with other trust property at a different time than when one could trade to current properties via BVTC.

There is a lot more they can do with the trust model.

The biggest piece though is they can sell under a trust model with RTU so that use is the same as it always has been when it comes to home resort and booking.

Each resort put into the trust and sold RTU can be independent of the rest and booking remains like it is now.