DVC renews RCI Affiliation agreement:(

[kespo]

 

[dclfun]

Won't affect us at all- we'd never, EVER, stay at an RCI property. To each his own.---Kathy

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Source?

 

[bwvBound]

Won't affect us at all- we'd never, EVER, stay at an RCI property. To each his own.---Kathy

B-b-b-b-but every time you stay at a DVC resort you are staying at an RCI property???

 

[tjkraz]

Old link perhaps?

Disney and RCI issued a press release December 2010 announcing a "multi-year" extension. So we already know they're locked-in through the end of 2012 courtesy of the "multi-year" statement.

http://www.marketwire.com/press-rel...-Renewal-of-Affiliation-Agreement-1365903.htm

 

[kespo]

Old link perhaps?

Disney and RCI issued a press release December 2010 announcing a "multi-year" extension. So we already know they're locked-in through the end of 2012 courtesy of the "multi-year" statement.

http://www.marketwire.com/press-rel...-Renewal-of-Affiliation-Agreement-1365903.htm

Thank you....this was the link I was trying to post. I know it's a little late, but I just saw this press release and I am sooo dissappointed. I was hoping they would go back to II. ((
Do we know for sure that it's only until the end of 2012? I hope "multi-year" does not mean 5+ years...

 

[jel0511]

There is a rumor that II wanted DVC out and doesn't want them back......

 

[icydog]

There is a rumor that II wanted DVC out and doesn't want them back......

That makes no sense. DVC was a major drawing power for II. I think DVC and RCI made a behind the scenes deal. I see no advantage to members to belong to RCI. BUT RCI members are trading into DVC resorts like crazy using low value properties that have low maintenance fees. This, I believe strongly, has devalued DVC. Why buy the cow when you can rent it for a penny.

 

[tjkraz]

Do we know for sure that it's only until the end of 2012? I hope "multi-year" does not mean 5+ years...

Nope, we don't know anything for sure. They only said "multi-year." Could be a complicated agreement with stated goals and objectives, and outs for both parties (mostly Disney.)

There is a rumor that II wanted DVC out and doesn't want them back......

Doubt it. Maybe some front-line rep or manager could be overheard claiming that DVC members were a pain to deal with, or something along those lines.

My suspicion is that DVC gave II first crack at keeping the business but RCI offered better terms. If II wasn't willing to offer more, they were probably content with letting DVC walk. But all things being equal it's pretty clear that II is a better product WITH DVC than WITHOUT DVC.

 

[jel0511]

That makes no sense. DVC was a major drawing power for II. I think DVC and RCI made a behind the scenes deal. I see no advantage to members to belong to RCI. BUT RCI members are trading into DVC resorts like crazy using low value properties that have low maintenance fees. This, I believe strongly, has devalued DVC. Why buy the cow when you can rent it for a penny.

Nope, we don't know anything for sure. They only said "multi-year." Could be a complicated agreement with stated goals and objectives, and outs for both parties (mostly Disney.)



Doubt it. Maybe some front-line rep or manager could be overheard claiming that DVC members were a pain to deal with, or something along those lines.

My suspicion is that DVC gave II first crack at keeping the business but RCI offered better terms. If II wasn't willing to offer more, they were probably content with letting DVC walk. But all things being equal it's pretty clear that II is a better product WITH DVC than WITHOUT DVC.

It came from someone high up in II, they said DVC was VERY difficult to deal with and wanted them out!!! No love was lost when DVC finally left.....

 

[tjkraz]

It came from someone high up in II, they said DVC was VERY difficult to deal with and wanted them out!!! No love was lost when DVC finally left.....

That may well have been the case. But if the dollars were favorable, someone even higher at II would have said "deal with it!"

 

[JimMIA]

I suspect the reason for the change was simply that RCI offers a better marketplace, not only for exchange inventory, but also for inventory that DVC owns. RCI's Extra Vacations program is like a second CRO for DVC.

I'm sure the selection is much more about DVC than about DVC members.

 

[icydog]

It came from someone high up in II, they said DVC was VERY difficult to deal with and wanted them out!!! No love was lost when DVC finally left.....

Disney, in fact, left II before because they felt they weren't being handled like they wished. Then they went to RCI where they surely were not handled like they wished. So back they went to II.

Why DVC left to go to RCI again seems murky, and always has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Even if DVC had problems with II there is a vast difference in RCI resorts and II resorts-- with II being superior, albeit minus the small number of Hilton Properties.

 

[icydog]

It came from someone high up in II, they said DVC was VERY difficult to deal with and wanted them out!!! No love was lost when DVC finally left.....

Disney, in fact, left II before because they felt they weren't being handled like they wished. Then they went to RCI where they surely were not handled like they wished. Why DVC left to go to RCI again seems murky, and always has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Even if DVC had problems with II there is a vast difference in RCI resorts and II resorts-- with II being superior, albeit minus the small number of Hilton Properties.

 

[Dean]

There is a rumor that II wanted DVC out and doesn't want them back......

It may be they couldn't come to an agreement on terms but to simply want them out would be nuts. Simply to be able to say you might get an exchange to DVC puts them up a notch or 2. They had already created the short terms stays directly related to DVC's request/needs.

 

[Dean]

Disney, in fact, left II before because they felt they weren't being handled like they wished. Then they went to RCI where they surely were not handled like they wished. So back they went to II.

Why DVC left to go to RCI again seems murky, and always has left a bad taste in my mouth.

Even if DVC had problems with II there is a vast difference in RCI resorts and II resorts-- with II being superior, albeit minus the small number of Hilton Properties.

DVC was with RCI first, then to II (one stint only) and now back to RCI. The fist time with RCI they were simply a deposit first weeks members just like all other RCI member resorts at the time.

 

[Brian Noble]

BUT RCI members are trading into DVC resorts like crazy using low value properties that have low maintenance fees.

Ah this again. You say this over and over, but it's not any more true in RCI than it was in II. And, with the new TPU values that in many cases require combinations, I suspect that it costs the average RCI exchanger more, not less than it did the average II exchanger.

 

[Dean]

BUT RCI members are trading into DVC resorts like crazy using low value properties that have low maintenance fees. This, I believe strongly, has devalued DVC. Why buy the cow when you can rent it for a penny.

Such is the nature of the beast with both II and RCI. I think you're giving DVC far too much value in either, it will never have the demand of say a Maui Marriott or Westin week, no where close. The demand of a given area and time of year will always take preference over the specifics of a given resort. This is the reason that relatively few high demand resorts/weeks end up with either exchange company. No exchange company considers buy in, fees or even view for the most part. All they look at is demand related issues, unit size and quality. While there are many negatives for DVC members, the request first option is a major plus. Also, there is quite a bit of negative sentiment for DVC from the rest of the timeshare world related to the appearance that DVC members think they're better than other timeshare owners, the extra fees, the fact they do demand special treatment from the exchange company and that they don't pass on member perks to exchangers while most resorts do.