DVC questions (new in post 11)

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ok I have been reading threads, i took the tour a few yrs ago, talked to different people
but i still am confused and would like your feedback to get some good answers that are not from people who are trying to sell me or don't seem to know 100%

1 - what dvc resorts are CURRENTLY for sale?
2 - what are the main differences between buying new and resale?
3 - as a family of 6 what resort would be "best" point wise
4 - is there any way to predict or is there a max to which the fees and outside costs will/can be?

i have other questions but those 2 will most likely answer some of the others such as, if i buy resale can i allow family members to use my points (or trade/sell points for that matter)

thanks
 
ok I have been reading threads, i took the tour a few yrs ago, talked to different people
but i still am confused and would like your feedback to get some good answers that are not from people who are trying to sell me or don't seem to know 100%

1 - what dvc resorts are CURRENTLY for sale?
Saratoga Springs, Animal Kingdom Villas, Bay Lake Towers, and Alunai are the resorts actively being sold. You can request other resorts, but may have to go on a waitlist for them if Disney has no current inventory available.
2 - what are the main differences between buying new and resale?
The primary difference is the price. You can find resale contracts for significantly less than Disney's sales price. You may also be able to find sold-out resorts on resale that aren't readily available directly from Disney. With resale, you may need to look around to find the exact number of points you want, whereas with Disney you can tailor your purchase to exactly what you need. And last but not least, there are restrictions on how you can use resale contracts. Points purchased directly from DVC can be used for stays at DVC resorts, Disney Collection destinations, Adventure Collection destinations, Concierge Collection destinations, and World Passport Collection destinations. Points purchased resale after 3/21/2011 can only be used at DVC resorts and World Passport Collection destinations.
3 - as a family of 6 what resort would be "best" point wise
You're going to have to give us a lot more detail than that to help with this question. How long do you want to stay? How often? What size room? What season? What resort?

The best advice when purchasing into DVC is to buy where you want to stay most often. The 11-month home resort booking priority comes in very handy for some small resorts, particularly at popular times of year.

If your question is strictly regarding the most cost-effective DVC resort to purchase, the lowest priced points directly from Disney are at Saratoga Springs.
4 - is there any way to predict or is there a max to which the fees and outside costs will/can be?
Outside costs? Can you give some examples of what you mean?

If you're refering to the maintenance fees, you can see a history of what those fees have been at each resort in post #2 of this thread. http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2532407
i have other questions but those 2 will most likely answer some of the others such as, if i buy resale can i allow family members to use my points (or trade/sell points for that matter)

thanks
Yes, you can use resale points to give stays as a gift or as a rental. However, you'll only be able to use them at DVC Resorts and World Passport Collection locations.
 
thank you

edit - can a person use their points to make 2 reservations for the same dates?
ie if i wanted to have two 4 person studios instead of one 8 person suite
 
edit - can a person use their points to make 2 reservations for the same dates?
ie if i wanted to have two 4 person studios instead of one 8 person suite

yes. you would need to provide names for both villas. (from what i understand, they could not both be held under your name.)

going back to your question above, i would recommend OKW as the best value-oriented alternative: the villas are less expensive (studios start at 10 pts per night for some weeknights) and OKW studios have 2 queen beds rather than 1 queen + 1 pullout sofabed as in the other DVC resorts. OKW villas are also the largest onsite: OKW 1BRs are about 1000 sq ft.

most OKW resales do expire in 2042, however. some OKW resales and all OKW direct contracts expire in 2057.
 

Basically, OKW 1BR's have the same sq ft as many 2BR's at other resorts.
OKW 2BR are huge!

There is a good chance that OKW would have availability at the 7 month window for a 2BR, so if there is a second resort you like, you may want to buy there. (Although if you are thinking about an occasional OKW GV, buy OKW)
SSR gives you the THV option (3BR sleeps 9 at 2BR rates) and you would need the 11 month window for SSR.
BWV, AKV(very few AKV Value rooms), and BLT have value / standard categories to save points.
 
Studios never connect to othe studios and may not be close to each other. So if you have four kids and two adults, the adults will have to split up with the kids.
 
Best deal for a family of 6 in my opinion the value 2 bedroom villa at Jambo house at Animal Kingdom Villas. It's one of the main reasons we made it our first home resort.
 
You also might want to take into consideration how long you would like to own your DVC. The older resorts expire sooner than the newer resorts. Watch the end date on OKW resales (some have the added years attached to them).
 
1 - what dvc resorts are CURRENTLY for sale?
2 - what are the main differences between buying new and resale?
3 - as a family of 6 what resort would be "best" point wise
4 - is there any way to predict or is there a max to which the fees and outside costs will/can be?

i have other questions but those 2 will most likely answer some of the others such as, if i buy resale can i allow family members to use my points (or trade/sell points for that matter)

thanks

1 - as say - BLT, AKV, SSR at WDW
2 - until recently the price was the same different - but this year DVC changed it policy - no offsite resale (non-DVC guides) can trade easily except to other DVC and world -passport. the price is still enough of a difference for offsite resales to be considered.
3 - agree OKW is probably one of the best buys - it has the biggest villas - that say it is the oldest. it was the first build back in 1991. so you will have plenty of room in a 2-bedroom at OKW.

4 - not ready. DVC (at this time) gives member a $100 discount on annual passes but only to family members that live with the DVC member. No one else. the fees can by florida law go up 30% each year - but so far Disney has kept the fees to 10% or less. It tries for 6% or less.
 
a few more questions i didn't seem to find exact answers on...
I can bank points for 1 yr, correct
but how many yrs in advance can i borrow? only 1?

if i typically travel during july 4th week, what resorts will book fast?
ie there would be slim to no chance of getting ___ resort at 7 months vs if it was my home and i could book at 11
i ask this because i read that SSR you can pretty much get rooms at 7 months all yr round so having that as home wouldn't be good in the aspect of booking time

if i book at my home resort 11 months out, can i change the res at 7 months without losing points or paying a fee?

thanks as always
 
If you want a specific resort at a specific holiday, make that resort your home resort. If you want a GV, make sure your resort has GVs. If you want lower points, you need to make sure you own at AKV, OKW or BWV (for the standard view).

Just because someone says they had no problem at 7 months out to get exactly what you want exactly when you want it, doesn't mean it will happen for you.

You can change to any DVC resort that has availability and you have the points. One problem could be the resort you want at 7 months out requires fewer points than your home resort. You get the other resort at 7 months out and have left over points - but you are within four months of the end of your UY. You'll have to use those points before the end of the UY or eat them.

You can use up to three years worth of points at any one time. You can bank one year, you can borrow one year and use the current year. BUT, if your trip falls across your UY (say you have a Sept UY and your trip starts in Aug and ends in Sept), you can actually borrow points from the next UY for those days in Sept.
 
I can bank points for 1 yr, correct
but how many yrs in advance can i borrow? only 1?

yep. you can move pts 1 year either way with banking and borrowing. but once you bank or borrow pts, they will expire at the end of that new use year. borrowed pts can't be put back and banked pts can't be banked again.

if i typically travel during july 4th week, what resorts will book fast?
ie there would be slim to no chance of getting ___ resort at 7 months vs if it was my home and i could book at 11

smaller resorts like BCV and VWL can be tough due to limited number of villas. certain villa types, like AKV-concierge, AKV-value, BLT-standard, BLT-MK view and BWV-standard view villas, are similarly limited in supply and would be very tough to get at 7 months during a holiday period.

ideally, if you have a favorite resort, buy there. if you are happy at SSR or OKW, buy there to save some money and book at 11 months out and try to change at 7 months if possible.

if i book at my home resort 11 months out, can i change the res at 7 months without losing points or paying a fee?

right now, yes.

DVC could decide to start charging a fee down the road, though. things can change...
 
a few more questions i didn't seem to find exact answers on...
I can bank points for 1 yr, correct
Correct
but how many yrs in advance can i borrow? only 1?
Correct. You can bank points once into the next use year. You can borrow only from the next use year. So for any given vacation, you can use up to three years worth of points. Previous use year points that have been banked, current use year points, and points borrowed from the next use year.
if i typically travel during july 4th week, what resorts will book fast? ie there would be slim to no chance of getting ___ resort at 7 months vs if it was my home and i could book at 11
There isn't a specific event that will cause one resort to be more popular than another during this time of year. (As opposed to SEP-NOV, for example, when BWV and BCV are difficult to book because of the Food and Wine Festival at Epcot.) July 4th is just a really busy time all over. Schools are out and it's a 3-day holiday. The smaller resorts will fill faster than the larger ones. You can check out the sticky called DVC Resource Center. Post #3 has a list of how many rooms each DVC resort has.

There are also considerations of whether you want a particlar room type or view. For example, the Boardwalk view villas at BWV are hard to book at the 7-month window, while there may be availability for a Preferred view. Concierge rooms at AKV are very hard to book, and could probably never be obtained without the 11-month booking advantage.
i ask this because i read that SSR you can pretty much get rooms at 7 months all yr round so having that as home wouldn't be good in the aspect of booking time
Correct. It does have the advantage of having the lowest direct-from-Disney cost per point, though.
if i book at my home resort 11 months out, can i change the res at 7 months without losing points or paying a fee?
Yes you can. In fact, this is absolutely what you should do. If you have a particular timeframe that you want to travel, always book something at your home resort at the 11 month point. If you want to try for another resort at the 7 month point, you can cancel the first reservation and switch to the other one if there is availability. You can go on a waitlist if there is not. If the booking/waitlist at the other resort doesn't come through, you still have your original reservation.

For this reason, the best advise is to BUY WHERE YOU WANT TO STAY MOST OFTEN!

There is not a fee for making a change to a reservation at a DVC resort.

Several things to be aware of. Plan ahead for how you'll handle any difference in points between the two reservations. Keep an eye on when your use year falls in relation to the reservation, and when your banking deadline is.

If the new reservation is more points than the old one, they'll charge you the difference in points. You'll of course need to have those points available in the use year of the reservation, or in the following use year to be borrowed.

If the old reservation is more points than the new reservation, they'll return the unused points back to your account. If they were banked or borrowed points, they'll stay in the use year of the reservation. They can't be returned to the use year from which they were banked or borrowed. Be careful you don't wind up with points in a use year where you can't use them. If the points refunded are current use year points, and you're still within the banking deadline when you make the change, you can bank the points. However, if you're after that banking deadline (in the last 4 months of your use year), you have to use the points or lose them. For example, if you have an August use year and want to change a reservation for a July vacation from a resort that costs 150 points to one that costs 140 points, you'll get those 10 points back. If you call to make this change in April, though, you'd be past the March 31st banking deadline for an August use year. You'd need to use those 10 refunded points by July 31st or they'd be lost. On the other hand, if you called in January to make the change (inside the 7-month booking window for a July vacation, and also within the first 8 months of the August use year), you'd be able to bank the 10 returned points into the next use year.

Also keep in mind that there are penalties for canceling a reservation 30-days or less from your check-in date. Points returned to you during this period will go into a holding account, and there are restrictions on how they can be used. You are unable to bank points in holding, even if you're still within your banking window. So, using that same example, if you called 15 days before check-in to make the change, the 10 refunded points would go into holding. (Technically, all 150 go into holding, then you use 140 points from the holding account for the new booking.)

Sorry, complex answer to a simple question.
 
thanks guys

fwiw i would need a 2 bedroom no matter where i stay/own since i have 6 people in my family
so i'll look at the number of rooms in the other thread for some ideas on that too
 
















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