DUES Info! - All resorts dues have been released

[Cyberc1978]

It also depends on if it’s a shared resort or not.

As I just posted, one way they determine an associations share of the shared expenses is occupancy which doesn’t also related to that.

Take the studios at BRV and CCV…one has occupancy ability for 5 and the other 4.

That will play a role. The specifics of how it is calculated is not included in the budgets but it could be something that an owner at a shared resort is entitled to request?

My understanding of the occupancy (my understanding might be wrong) is that if my room fits 5 then it does not matter if it’s only me occupying the room it still counts as 5.

 

[Sandisw]

My understanding of the occupancy (my understanding might be wrong) is that if my room fits 5 then it does not matter if it’s only me occupying the room it still counts as 5.

Correct. What I meant is that if the room can hold up to 5 but the other only 4, the room that can sleep more will be responsible for a larger share of the shared costs.

Which helps to explain, in part, why front desk costs per point are different for BRV vs CCV

What they don’t do is simply divide it in thirds between BRV, CCV, and the cash side.

 

[Judique]

On comparing costs per point on a particular expense, like front desk/admin, I do think those are perfect examples of where the amount per point in our dues is affected by the overall number of points and their allocation to different rooms.

So, if you have two resorts with the same number and proportion of rooms, you are presumably going to need about the same number of front desk employees. But, if one resort has double the points the other one has (and rooms cost double the points), then you'd presumably see front desk expenses at the lower points resort cost twice as much as the other on a per point basis. I think that could going a long way to explaining CCV's low front desk/admin with all those point heavy cabins.

With HHI/VB, you're dealing with different labor markets (in addition to the different check-in procedures), so you're introducing more factors. May well have to pay front desk people more money in those labor markets than someplace like the greater Orlando area and it's presumably large supply of hotel/tourist/service labor.

Not justifying any of the numbers, just coming up with plausible explanations for the differences.

Keeping regular employees such as front desk is a factor also. I go there a few times a year and I know there is constant turnover. In fact, driving down I 95 there is a sign recruiting for people that has been up for a number of years.

Hilton Head Island overall is a small place, jampacked with retirees, beautiful beach side homes, resorts, condos and many, many vacation rental units. It's also dotted with timeshares. There are many of them. Marriott has at least 5 or 6, maybe more. I would imagine getting and keeping employees in all of the resorts on the island is overwhelming. There are also over 200 + restaurants which draw a lot of labor. People do drive in from the countryside and between Charleston, Beaufort and HH, there's lots of countryside but people are relatively sparse. Going south, Savannah has it's own demands for workers but overall a bigger pool to draw from, in my opinion.

When the island is full of people, it's people on holiday that are swelling the numbers, not necessarily people looking for a part time job. It costs money to continuously be training people. Somehow they manage it there and get most of them to be so nice! Those of us who own at Hilton Head and go there often have seen the cuts. But still, we realize we have something special, that is not duplicated at other Disney resorts.

 

[SkampyOne]

Hmmmm since this was the original proposed, and not the final 2025 dues, suddenly I feel a lot better about the increase

2026 BWV is $9.6717. The chart on page 1 has the original proposed 2025 at $9.0570 but ACTUAL was $9.2058. So "only" 5%. See I saved money already

 

[LuvOrlando]

Whoa, so you can basically rent there for a week for cost of annual fees?????

wowsie wow wow

 

[VGCgroupie]

Whoa, so you can basically rent there for a week for cost of annual fees?????

wowsie wow wow

Are you saying wow like thats good or wow that’s bad?

 

[Chili327]

Are you saying wow like that's good or wow that’s bad?

I'm not sure who they were replying to, or if they just misplaced a decimal point on dues. lol