DSLR - Where to start?

roselark

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I am considering purchasing a DSLR camera. The problem is deciding if this is the direction I really want to take. Emotionally, I desire to take those really good shots, realistically, I need to decide if I am willing to put the work into doing it right.

I think I am your typical point-and-shoot user. I know the menus, I primarily use the default mode, but sometimes utilize some of the special modes (like foliage, etc), but when you start getting into terms like ISO, shutter speed, exposure, I am about as clueless as it gets.

So I have lots of learning to do. Before I invest $600+ in a new camera, I want to learn about what all this is about to determine A. if this is something I want to do at all and B. if I want to do it, how serious do I want to get?

Can anyone recommend a starting place for me? Is there a great beginners book or video? I have considered taking a class, but the ones offered in the area are not convenient for me right now.

I have seen a book titled "Understanding Exposure" recommended, but I am wondering if this will be too advanced. I have also looked at some of the "Dummies" books and they seem too basic...like focusing on using menus vs what the settings actually mean and how to effectively use them.
 
I am considering purchasing a DSLR camera. The problem is deciding if this is the direction I really want to take. Emotionally, I desire to take those really good shots, realistically, I need to decide if I am willing to put the work into doing it right.

I think I am your typical point-and-shoot user. I know the menus, I primarily use the default mode, but sometimes utilize some of the special modes (like foliage, etc), but when you start getting into terms like ISO, shutter speed, exposure, I am about as clueless as it gets.

So I have lots of learning to do. Before I invest $600+ in a new camera, I want to learn about what all this is about to determine A. if this is something I want to do at all and B. if I want to do it, how serious do I want to get?

Can anyone recommend a starting place for me? Is there a great beginners book or video? I have considered taking a class, but the ones offered in the area are not convenient for me right now.

I have seen a book titled "Understanding Exposure" recommended, but I am wondering if this will be too advanced. I have also looked at some of the "Dummies" books and they seem too basic...like focusing on using menus vs what the settings actually mean and how to effectively use them.


Understanding Exposure is very well writen and very well illustrated so it is very easy to understand what the various changes in apeture, shutter speed and ISO will accomplish and how they will effect your final picture.

Now to the DSLR,

1. Are you willing to lug one around, they don't fit in your pocket or purse?
2. Are you willing to have a couple a of lenses to change them around as needed? (There are some super zooms out there, but the qulity isn't steller)
3. The entry level ones all have a auto setting, but your not going to see significant improvements unless your willing to learn a little and move out of those settings.

Just getting a DSLR isn't going to automatically make your pictures better, yes you'll have a better tool, but if you don't use the tool properly your not going to get better results.

If you decide you do want to go that route, then go to a store and play with them, hold all the brands in your hands, move through the menus, one of them will simply feel better to you, and that's the one you should get. Then you can shop for price, but only at the legitimate sites such as adorama, beach, amazon etc.
 
I would not consider Understanding Exposure to be too advanced. Going by your last sentence about the dummies book I think that the Exposure book may be very close to what you are looking for to learn about photography.
 
Just getting a DSLR isn't going to automatically make your pictures better, yes you'll have a better tool, but if you don't use the tool properly your not going to get better results.

Yep! Totally understand that, which is why I want to learn a bit about how to use it before I decide to do so. I think I am ready for the next step, but I want to make sure.

I figure if nothing else, this learning exercise will help me take better pictures with my Canon Powershot SD850.
 

Go to your local library and find some good, even if older, books on photography. Or, go to your local bookseller and look through what's there.

I found that a lot of understanding "digital" photography manuals involve more computer stuff (downloading and manipulating pictures). Find books that discuss film photography. The foundational concepts are the same.

Additionally, if you are leaning toward a specific brand of camera, see if you can find the instruction manual in PDF format online somewhere. I know the original Digital Rebel EOS 300 is out there as well as the old Powershot S5. I'm sure Nikon, Sony, etc. have these available as well.

They will seem daunting at first, but if you look up what a button does online, you will get the hang of it fairly quickly.

How much manual control does your point and shoot offer? That would be a good way to learn as well. Finally, see if there is a short course offered for your current point and shoot (google your camera model name+short course).

If you begin with what you already have, you'll be able to determine if you want to make the jump to the next level of photography.
 
It can be a big challenge, but one that's worth it if you decide to go that route. You should probably ask yourself if you're in a good "place" in your life to make the time for it, as your best results will come from putting the effort into learning to use it to its fullest. (Though not everyone who has a dSLR does this; some simply use theirs as an oversized point and shoot.)

I've chronicled my experiences here. It'll give you an idea of what's involved, but don't let it scare you away. Learning doesn't happen overnight. I kind of feel like, around here, we're all in it together in a way. All kinds of backgrounds and experiences here.

I've discovered that there are three "parts" involved in learning to use a dSLR if you have no previous SLR experience. First, it's learning the science of photography part. Second, the learning to use your particular camera part. And third, learning to use some software for picture editing, storage, etc. When you have to learn all three at once, it feels a little daunting. But you learn a little bit at a time and your pictures get better and better as you go. The alternative is to keep on the same road you're on now, but you're likely then to not see much of an improvement in your pictures long term. As I said before, the effort is worth it once you figure out what you're doing.

Good luck!
 
Depending on what you want and what you expect from a dSLR it can be as simple as a Point & Shoot, or as complex as full manual exposure and manual focus (although I very rarely see any reason to use those).

I really don't care for "Understanding Exposure" (I returned it for a refund), a better way of learning might be to look at the EXIF data (information on camera settings and more) for photos you like. If that is not available just ask the photographer for some information, this is a very helpful group!

Once you understand how a photographer arrived at a certain effect it should be easy to apply that knowledge to your own photography.
 
No matter what kind of camera you have, a better grasp of the basics of photography - exposure and composition - will improve your pics. So no matter what you decide about the SLR, you can look into the new books and other resources mentioned here and improve your pics.
 
Everyone here has given you good advise about the process. If you decide a DSLR is for you my only suggestion is to go to your local camera store not Best Buy or Costco etc.

Ask the person there what camera they use before they show you the different ones. My experince has been that the sales person will usually put a hard sell on the brand they use. If they use Nikons let them show you Nikons. Then ask if there is someone there that uses Canons etc. You will get better info I believe
 
Keep in mind too that the camera must feel good in your hands.

Once you pick a model/brand you like go online an search for negative reviews and see what people are complaining about. I often search out the negative reviews to see what complaints people have. Most of the times they are talking about lacking features and they would have know about prior to the purchase if they did thier homework.

A true salesperson or website will never flat out tell you things you can learn by reading the negative reviews. They typically concentrate on just the positive reviews as they want to sell. (Disclaimer: this does not normally apply to a local mom & pop camera shop, they typically want to help.)
 
To add a few more things, and embellish a bit on what was mentioned above:

1. What is it you want/need to photograph? While a DSLR has superior capabilities in a wider range of photographic subjects and styles, a nice P&S camera is nearly as capable in a few key areas that most people tend to use their cameras for. Landscapes? Daytime vacation shots? Scenics? Slow-shutter night shots? A P&S can do as well as a DSLR for most people. You can make large prints, sell photos, even get published, using a P&S for these types of shots. If this is where you intend to be taking photos...strongly consider whether you want or need the extra weight, price, size, and maintenance of a DSLR. There are P&S cameras with larger sensors, good lenses, and even manual controls, that will still be a lot lighter and smaller than a DSLR, and much less expensive, and may really be all you need. Plus...as WillCAD mentioned above, you can still grow your photography a very long way by learning more about technique, composition, and timing - learning to control exposure, depth of field, focus, color and light, composition, and motion.

2. If you decide a DSLR is still the route you want to go...then ergonomics becomes a big factor. It's a much larger and heavier machine, so make sure it is comfortable to hold, to shoot with, and to carry. The grip design must be comfortable for your hand, in carrying and shooting. The buttons should be within finger reach. As for which one to buy...don't worry about it. You can't buy a bad DSLR nowadays. Don't let ANY salesman or other shooter tell you otherwise - big-name brands are often hard-sold at stores and other brands may be discouraged...or someone that shoots with one brand will tell you it's the end-all-be-all. Block all of that out, check out the cameras in person, find out which is comfortable, has the right features, and the right price...and simply ignore the brand name on front. Only folks who need particular professional grade lenses, or have been shooting already with one brand and have a collection of lenses, need to worry about the brand they are buying. Pentax, Olympus, Sony, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic...you'll be fine.

3. When perusing complaints on a particular brand - use this information to understand what features people are mentioning, and what problems they are having - but always remember: EVERY camera brand will have people with complaints...and message boards are always filled with two kinds of people - those who love a camera, and those who hate it. Just think about the entire concept of a camera message board - a place where you take time out of your day to come to a place where you sit and type comments and read comments about a brand of camera. What possibly could drive a person to want to spend that time? It isn't likely to be the average Joe who fairly well enjoys his camera and has had no real issues. It's going to be folks with enough strong passion to drive them to devote time to the subject - and the folks with the most passion are fanatics/people in love, and people who hate or feel jilted. So don't get caught up reading negatives about one brand, and not check another brand or assume there are not folks with problems over there too...there are!

You also may want to consider checking out a dedicated photography message board which has a posting board for photos..go take some photos that you think are pretty good, and stick them up for critique...make sure to let them know you're looking for straight-up honesty. Other photography enthusiasts should give you pretty good critique and you'll quickly find out what you're doing wrong or right. Ignore the 'great photo' posts or the 'photo sucks' posts...they always pop up. And thicken your skin first - you may feel insulted by some critique, especially if you thought it was pretty good. But take all advice, try to look at your photo as an outsider, and you'll be surprised how much your photography will improve, and how much room you have to grow even with a compact P&S. This is the route I took years ago - I had SLRs since 1978, but was never more of a snapshooter - no skill or understanding of photography. In 2003, I had a decent P&S camera, and thought I was doing pretty well with it, so I started putting up a few photos to a photography critique board. Besides learning for the first time what Aperture, Shutter, and ISO actually meant and how they worked, I also learned a whole bevvy of things I had never heard of before or noticed in my shots: unlevel horizons, CA, PF, blown highlights, crushed shadows, rule of thirds, flare, flat photos, depth of field, white balance, barrel distortion, pincushion, histogram, bell curve, shadow noise, chroma noise, luminance noise...the list just went on and on. I came away feeling like I was the worst photographer in the world, if all of these things could be going on in my photos, and I didn't see them or even know what they were! But over the year or two I had that camera, I learned what all those things were, learned to control them, or use them creatively. I learned how the various controls of the camera worked to adjust these things, and started composing shots with all of that in mind. By the time I moved up to another advanced P&S camera, I found myself offering the same type of advice to other new posters...and realized I had learned this stuff. My photography had improved, and though you can never avoid all those things I mentioned, you can understand how and why they occur, and either avoid, minimize, or use those things in your photography. I spent another 2 years on top of the first 3 years shooting with P&S cameras - helping others follow the same learning path I took, and beginning to sell photos and get published photos and photography jobs, before I truly felt the need to move up to a DSLR.

Hope that helps a bit!
 
I agree with Justin on the brand issue.

Also keep in mind that many (not all) users who buy these cameras and don't get great shots right away automatically assume it's the camera (brand or model), when in fact, much of it is simply being novice.

Reading others' experiences is good, but you sometimes have to read between the lines a little as well as read both the bad and the good. Pay close attention to who's doing the reviewing.
 
While I agree with what has been said about brands, particularly the need to handle a camera before committing to it, I 'll add one more thought. If you have a significant brand ecosystem around you, there are a lot of benefits of going with that brand.

For example, despite being a big Canon fan, if I were to start from scratch, I'd probably go with Nikon. I actually prefer the Canon gear, but it seems like just about everyone I shoot with these days is using Nikon. If I shot with Nikon, I'd have access to the specialty lenses they've bought, the ability to borrow flashes, etc.

I wonder if the fact that so many people around me see my Canon shots and then buy Nikon gear implies anything about my photographic skills. :sad2:
 
While I agree with what has been said about brands, particularly the need to handle a camera before committing to it, I 'll add one more thought. If you have a significant brand ecosystem around you, there are a lot of benefits of going with that brand.

For example, despite being a big Canon fan, if I were to start from scratch, I'd probably go with Nikon. I actually prefer the Canon gear, but it seems like just about everyone I shoot with these days is using Nikon. If I shot with Nikon, I'd have access to the specialty lenses they've bought, the ability to borrow flashes, etc.

I wonder if the fact that so many people around me see my Canon shots and then buy Nikon gear implies anything about my photographic skills. :sad2:

Only that they are so intimidated by your awsomeness that they figure Canon gear must only be for the high-elite of photographers, so instead they go with Nikon, which is marketed as being so simple even Ashton Kutcher can use it.
 
Lots of great info and advice!

I will take the suggestion to learn more about the manual settings on my Canon Powershot before deciding if I want to move up to a DSLR. I bought a couple of books to start learning terms and what everything means. We will see where this takes me!

Thanks a ton everyone!
 
roselark, I'll chime in with a few words from someone who came from a similar position recently. I loved my point-n-shoots working my way through various models and learning how to use their capabilities. Like you, I used their different modes for fireworks, sports etc. Since I had the capability to try RAW I did that and enjoyed processing my pictures and comparing them with the jpegs. I guess what I'm saying is that I pushed myself to learn as much as I could about the cameras I did have.

Starting roughly last year I began wondering if I should move up to dSLR. I really debated back and forth with myself. Reading everything I could about what dSLRs could do that pns cameras can't do helped some but I wasn't ready. Finally, last month my wonderful Canon G9 broke out of warranty and the repair would have been expensive so I bought my first dSLR.

It's a big learning curve with my new camera but I feel up to it; don't think I would have been two years ago without the confidence of knowing what I learned about my Canon G5 and G9 and reading extensively (mostly online) and practicing, practicing and practicing with my point and shoots.

The other thing to think about as others on this board pointed out to me: Are you frustrated with your current camera? Are there things that a point and shoot just can't do (not you) that you would like a camera to do? I particularly enjoy the quick response, no lag between shots for example.

So I think your plan to read and learn the manual settings is definitely the way to go at this time!
 
Just getting a DSLR isn't going to automatically make your pictures better, yes you'll have a better tool, but if you don't use the tool properly your not going to get better results.

I have seen fantastic pictures taken with p&s cameras and I have seen bad pictures taken with pro type cameras. Master Mason is right, the most important tool is the person behind the camera.
 
just read this thread because i knew it would help me....we just bought our first D-SLR, a sony a330. we've had it about a week now and are slowly but surely learning. i'm going by barnes & noble tomorrow at some point - do you guys think i will find the "understanding exposure" book there or is it something i'll have to order online? (wish i would've known about it yesterday - i ordered 2 DVDs from amazon and with just a few more dollars could've gotten free shipping! :rotfl:)
 
now that your brain is overloaded and about to burst :scared1: you did the right thing read and try to understand what you read ask questions no shame in that when and if you decide to buy a dslr their are plenty of sites out their to let you shop different cameras side by side.cameras are like computers when you buy it two weeks later it will be obsolete :) never fails.I'm second guessing my purchase.I will learn to use this and then think of upgrading.I just want to take good pictures not trying for pro status :) yet any ways.this is an expensive hobby
 
I am really enjoying "Understanding Exposure". He has a great way of explaining things and I am finding that the basics are not as hard as I imagined. :cool1: This is exactly what I needed!

I now understand the what the manual settings on my P&S camera are for. There really isn't a whole lot to play with, but I am playing around with all of it.

Also, now that I know what these terms are, I am understanding the threads in this forum a whole lot more! :rotfl2:
 


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