Double/Tripple Booking

[goodtmz37]

I have noticed alot as of late an extrordinary amout of people double and tripple booking. Then, 5 days out from their trip, they release the reservations not used (many of which are for the same restaurant)!

I hope people might start to understand that this process only hurts your fellow mouseketeers! Many of us try to plan our trips well in advance, and if you have made ressies for 3 different dinner places in one night, it hurts all of our planning! Normally, if you're booking 180 days out, you have your choice of restaurant. Please, make your choice then, instead of waiting to feel it out an in the meanwhile holding reservations for 'Ohana on 4 of your 5 nights you're at the resort.

 

[miprender]

How do you know people are doing this?

I am sure a few might but at least people are cancelling them and not just a no show.

 

[TINKSFRIEND2]

I agree

 

[gigi1313]

I have noticed alot as of late an extrordinary amout of people double and tripple booking.

notice it where? how? do you have an inside view of disney's restaurant booking engine? and doesn't that prevent the double booking? i know i went to book a reservation for our family and a separate one for my il's (traveling together, but not joined at the hip... they want primetime we want sci fi) and because i used my own email/phone number on both it dinged me and would not allow me to book both ressies (which was really annoying! btw)...

so, how do you know people are double/triple booking? because they are offering up ressies on the "wanted/available" boards? it could be because they are revamping and making changes as they get closer to their dates, esp since park hours are changing, fireworks are changing, fantasmics may be added, etc... i know my november reservations and touring plans are a constant work-in-progress!

 

[goodtmz37]

When people are dropping reservations for restaurants such as 'Ohana on both 3 consecutive nights and 3 mornings, it seems as though they are monopalizing a system without respect for other interested parties.

For example, please refer to the current thread for December res drops. A recent poster has just released over 5 ressies for 'Ohana over the course of 3 days. In total, that is 25 people that have not been available to book until now.

It is no consolation to those who do not know about this forum when a reservation is dropped. I only recently found this wonderful website. But I do believe it is an injustice, however small it might be relative to other things in this world, that people will book certain restaunts multiple times w/o ever having the intention of eating there more than once on a trip.

Furthermore, you can book restaurants with enough time frame between them so that the search engine will double book you, say for a dinner. There is evidence of multiple double/tripple bookings in the drop posts in both September and October.

 

[Mom of 2 Wife of 1]

Everyone who is staying onsite has had since 180 days out from their date of arrival the exact same chance to reserve anything as anyone else.

You will never win the argument that others are double/triple booking, as 1) the system has significantly cracked down on that; 2) you have no inside track into the ADRs of every single potential Disney guest in the world, no matter what you may have read on a cancellation thread; 3) until Disney completely eliminates the booking of (2) ADRs in the same mealtime, i.e. one dinner at 5:00p and another at 9:00p -- and even that wouldn't stop some from simply registering under another identity in order to double-book.

The best thing you can do is be prepared at 180 days out to assault the online system for everything you want and have backups for whatever you cannot get. Otherwise, get used to disappointment.

 

[Bell30012]

When you use the online booking it will cancel any reservations that conflict.

 

[nkereina]

FWIW, if you don't log in when making an ADR, you can easily use someone else in your party's name and phone number to make a conflicting reservation without the system making you cancel one. I am sure this is what the people OP is referring to are doing. I'd make myself crazy with changing things if I didn't set my plans in stone when I initially made them, so I'd hate doing this, but I suppose this is how some people keep their options open who don't like to decide things well ahead of time.

 

[goodtmz37]

Well, I have been disapointed. However, this discusion is an attempt to appeal to those who don't care about others disapointments. According to your philosophy, those who decide to go to DW 3 months out are "out of luck".

I don't beleive this has to be the case, and I'm sorry for those people who can't eat at a DW restaurant because of those who would rather book 10 restaurants for one day with no intention of eating 10 times.

 

[yrdlyprincess]

I would agree with you that some people may be dble booking...triple booking I guess they could. I am trying to get a ressie for Chef Mickey's on either of 2 nights when we are down there (I could change the park I go to on either 2 days) I would take either day not that picky about the day...but there are NO ADR's for either day. I called Disney and asked what is the possiblity that I could call week before...would there be an opening?? she said it is very possible and unless they would have a credit card hold for the ressie people dont "need" to cancel the ressie sometimes they just dont show up....again which sucks for me. But I guess thats the game....I will keept trying everyday though

 

[boydstcher]

I noticed that as well. When I want a hard to get restaurant I book at the 180 day mark. Now, this trip I booked 45 days out because it was sort of a last minute decision for us considering it is Disney and I usually plan much further out. I knew full well that I would not be getting into Ohana for dinner or Tusker House for b'fast and that's fine with me. I'm just happy about going to Disney and it gives me a chance to try new places.

When you use the online booking it will cancel any reservations that conflict.

 

[boydstcher]

I'm glad you didn't see my reservations last year. We were booked at Ohana twice and the Kona Cafe once for consecutive nights because they are our favs and we were staying at the Poly. I have more time on my hands than worrying about what others are doing,I'm sure they are in the minority and if you keep checking something is bound to pop up.

When people are dropping reservations for restaurants such as 'Ohana on both 3 consecutive nights and 3 mornings, it seems as though they are monopalizing a system without respect for other interested parties.

For example, please refer to the current thread for December res drops. A recent poster has just released over 5 ressies for 'Ohana over the course of 3 days. In total, that is 25 people that have not been available to book until now.

It is no consolation to those who do not know about this forum when a reservation is dropped. I only recently found this wonderful website. But I do believe it is an injustice, however small it might be relative to other things in this world, that people will book certain restaunts multiple times w/o ever having the intention of eating there more than once on a trip.

Furthermore, you can book restaurants with enough time frame between them so that the search engine will double book you, say for a dinner. There is evidence of multiple double/tripple bookings in the drop posts in both September and October.

 

[Cafeen]

Whenever there is a system in place to help prevent against a situation, there will be users who abuse and exploit it to get what they want.

As it sits now, it's better than it was. It also took Disney almost two years to add that feature, so expect some time as it sits now before further changes get made.

There is no way to fully prevent the abusers from multi-booking. At all. At least short of doing away with all ADRs entirely or making it so you pay a fee whenever you cancel one (at all, not just within a certain window). I don't think either option is better than what we have now. (And the 2nd one would slow it, but certainly not stop it).

 

[LindyN]

The problem is 25000+ guest rooms owned by Disney, a dining plan that really can be a great value that saves money, and only 100 places to eat--and not necessarily duplicate reservations.

With ADRs available at 180+10 for Disney resort guests, and day visitors booking right at 180 days, things are going to sell out, and sell out early.

Even in the old days of Disney dining it was common for Chef Mickey, Ohana, LeCellier and CRT to be totally sold out within a week of the tables opening. There always has been doublebooking and no-shows. Always.

 

[JCH]

I live in Florida so I go quite often. I will make reservations for the hard to get restaurants 6 months in advance with the hope we can go that weekend. Then if something comes up, they get canceled closer to the date. Unfortunately living so close, we don't plan trips 6 months out, so if want to go to Le Cellier during F&W, I may book it for lunch for both our weekend possibilities then cancel one when we know exactly with weekend we can go. I am sure this is what you consider "double booking", but I consider it covering my bases. I really have done this with Le Cellier and special dining such as Candlelight Packages and during Thanksgiving weekend, as everything else we want can usually be booked an month in advance with no problem. I figure if someone wants the rezzie that badly, they'll be checking every few days and see when one gets canceled. I also dont feel bad since people staying on property got a ten day head start on this of us who can take day trips.

 

[collegejunkie]

complaining on here won't really help you or get you anywhere. i'm probably the poster you were referring to who has several ohana reservations in december. as you noted, i'm canceling them and putting them up for grabs in case anyone wants one. if i'm canceling in september for a december trip, why are you upset? this will prevent no-shows, someone else can have my ressies, and i also get what i want. maybe you should plan to make your reservations at 180 days out and then you'll have the same chance as everyone else. i made loads of reservations since my 180 day time (june) up until last night, and there were lots of places available. if you want one of my ressies, instead of complaining that i have them, tell me and we can coordinate. you do realize that i posted them in the cancel thread because i'm canceling them and not just going to waste them by not showing up, right?

 

[Mom of 2 Wife of 1]

I've never heard anybody complain who got the restaurant they wanted. It's always those who couldn't get what they wanted who end up blaming everyone else who did their homework, woke up early and/or understand how the ADR system works. I realize that sounds cold and harsh but people spend a lot of money on a Disney vacation, and it pays to do your research and be diligent.

As a PP stated, there are less than 75 TS restaurants on property and on any given day over 150,000 people in WDW. Would you just show up to an airport, or try to reserve a flight a month in advance and just expect the correct # of seats to be waiting for you? So why would you do that here? Please do your homework.

 

[BattyKoda]

I live in Florida so I go quite often. I will make reservations for the hard to get restaurants 6 months in advance with the hope we can go that weekend. Then if something comes up, they get canceled closer to the date. Unfortunately living so close, we don't plan trips 6 months out, so if want to go to Le Cellier during F&W, I may book it for lunch for both our weekend possibilities then cancel one when we know exactly with weekend we can go. I am sure this is what you consider "double booking", but I consider it covering my bases. I really have done this with Le Cellier and special dining such as Candlelight Packages and during Thanksgiving weekend, as everything else we want can usually be booked an month in advance with no problem. I figure if someone wants the rezzie that badly, they'll be checking every few days and see when one gets canceled. I also dont feel bad since people staying on property got a ten day head start on this of us who can take day trips.

Strange, but until I read this particular post, I had no problem with what people were doing... but you are booking tables for a trip not even yet booked. That seems a bit out of line to me.
I get your being upset about people staying onsite getting a ten day headstart... but again, you aren't even booked yet but still reserving tables. That seems a bit much to me.

I don't mean to offend, and I hope you don't take it that way.

 

[goodtmz37]

I've never heard anybody complain who got the restaurant they wanted. It's always those who couldn't get what they wanted who end up blaming everyone else who did their homework, woke up early and/or understand how the ADR system works. I realize that sounds cold and harsh but people spend a lot of money on a Disney vacation, and it pays to do your research and be diligent.

As a PP stated, there are less than 75 TS restaurants on property and on any given day over 150,000 people in WDW. Would you just show up to an airport, or try to reserve a flight a month in advance and just expect the correct # of seats to be waiting for you? So why would you do that here? Please do your homework.

Of course I would book my reservation on a flight as far out as I knew I could. But I don't make reservations on 4 planes on 4 consecutive days, then cancel months later.

And those people getting the restaurant they wanted are getting it because they know they're taking a trip 180 days in advance. However, I'm spending the same amount of money they are, and yet because they have double booked, I'm unable to secure a reservation. Please don't tell me I'm not diligent because I decided to go to Disney 100 days out (over 3 months) instead of 180 - those who are not doing their homework are those deciding to book ressies at CRT or 'Ohana or Tusker House 5 days in a row because they don't want to plan their trip. I've done my homework, and when it's time for me to book a reservation, I know what I want - and it doesn't hurt anyone in the process.

 

[JCH]

Strange, but until I read this particular post, I had no problem with what people were doing... but you are booking tables for a trip not even yet booked. That seems a bit out of line to me.
I get your being upset about people staying onsite getting a ten day headstart... but again, you aren't even booked yet but still reserving tables. That seems a bit much to me.

I don't mean to offend, and I hope you don't take it that way.

I dont just book to book. I know we are going for say F&w but my husbands schedule won't tell us which weekend we can go until about a month out. Because of this, I'll book for instance Le Cellier for both possible weekends, then when he gets his schedule, cancel the one we don't need. Same for Candelight. I know we are going and he'll have a weekend free in December, I just don't know which weekend until the end of November.