Doing Med ports on Own questions

Hi, could someone please tell us how long the Tendering took in Pisa? Also how long the train took to get to Pisa? A few people in our group are planning to purchase tickets and would like a ballpark on time. Thanks so much for all the help you've been providing us!!!
 
Arbitrage:

It is good to hear you had a great time! Thanks for starting this thread!

Thank you as well. I learned so much on here that enhanced my trip that without it would have made for some stressful days
 
Th ship announcement that morning told us to plan on 45 minutes to get to the tender pier. Some of that time is spent at the Walt Disney Theatre where you have to go to get tender tickets. The ride itself is less than 20 minutes.

Regarding the Cinque Terre, there is another option to taking the train. There is a ferry that goes to Portovenero which is about 100 feet from where the tender arrives. We had hired a tour guide to walk the Cinque Terre with us. For 170 euro, it was well worth it. She spent the entire day with us, and we went to Portovenero, Vernazza and Monterroso. Portovenero, by far, is the loveliest. And it is very simple to reach by ferry. The other ports are reachable by ferry as well, but on the day we visited, the water was rough and they were only going into Portovenero and Monterroso. It's about a 25 minute ride. There is a microphone system and our tour guide got on the loudspeaker and narrated the entire time in English.

Portovenero is incredibly beautiful. It was built in the 1300's and has hardly changed. No cars are permitted. The streets are cobblestone. We visited an olive oil shop that did tastings; the most unique shop I saw in Europe. There is a chapel on the edge of town that is the most requested church for weddings in Europe. There is also a lookout point where Lord Byron was known to sit and write. We ate at a restaurant in Vernazza which was very reasonably priced. We did end up taking the train back to the ship from Monterroso. The tour guide explained that the local trains can be unreliable and in fact, we ended up walking lover's lane, because one of the trains we were to take to get back to the tender was cancelled.

I think this is very doable on your own, if you don't try to do too much. My DD really wanted to see Pisa, and in retrospect, we could have spent the morning in Portovenero and gone to Pisa in the afternoon. We did speak with someone on the ship who did Pisa first thing in the morning, and she said the lines were much shorter in the morning, however.
 
Th ship announcement that morning told us to plan on 45 minutes to get to the tender pier. Some of that time is spent at the Walt Disney Theatre where you have to go to get tender tickets. The ride itself is less than 20 minutes.

Regarding the Cinque Terre, there is another option to taking the train. There is a ferry that goes to Portovenero which is about 100 feet from where the tender arrives. We had hired a tour guide to walk the Cinque Terre with us. For 170 euro, it was well worth it. She spent the entire day with us, and we went to Portovenero, Vernazza and Monterroso. Portovenero, by far, is the loveliest. And it is very simple to reach by ferry. The other ports are reachable by ferry as well, but on the day we visited, the water was rough and they were only going into Portovenero and Monterroso. It's about a 25 minute ride. There is a microphone system and our tour guide got on the loudspeaker and narrated the entire time in English.



Portovenero is incredibly beautiful. It was built in the 1300's and has hardly changed. No cars are permitted. The streets are cobblestone. We visited an olive oil shop that did tastings; the most unique shop I saw in Europe. There is a chapel on the edge of town that is the most requested church for weddings in Europe. There is also a lookout point where Lord Byron was known to sit and write. We ate at a restaurant in Vernazza which was very reasonably priced. We did end up taking the train back to the ship from Monterroso. The tour guide explained that the local trains can be unreliable and in fact, we ended up walking lover's lane, because one of the trains we were to take to get back to the tender was cancelled.

I think this is very doable on your own, if you don't try to do too much. My DD really wanted to see Pisa, and in retrospect, we could have spent the morning in Portovenero and gone to Pisa in the afternoon. We did speak with someone on the ship who did Pisa first thing in the morning, and she said the lines were much shorter in the morning, however.

If you decide to do cinque terre, try to do it in the afternoon. There is an 8:00 am train that you can't make (I was on the first tender and still missed it even by cab it is 10 minutes) and the next train isn't till 10. the ferry doesn't get you there till 11. We wanted to Pisa as well so that didn't work for us and never made it to cinque terre.. Have fun!!
 

We were able to take a 9:15 ferry to Portovenero. It all depends on which village you decide to start with.
 
we caught the 9.30 ish tender boat walked leisurly up la spezia town-pedestrianised and lovely, arrived at train station-little booking office called cinque terre tourist office--bought hopon hopoff ticket-5 euros! and did all cinque terre till 3.00pm.--they're only two stops apart and u can turn back to your preferred one if u like!!! vernazza was grt but manara is quiter and cheaper for lunch.try it-its really easy. we walked the via del amore from riomaggiore to manara-20 minute walk- entrance included with your train ticket.then train back broke down hehehe :yay: :yay: waited in limbo for around 50 mins--part of the fun i guess!!!best-and cheapest-excursion on trip!!!:dance3:

i miss the boat!!!!!

did all excursions on our own btw-
 
We rented a car; here's what I wrote on another thread:

We (my husband, 16 yr old daughter, and I) rented a car in La Spezia. We were told about Hertz and walked for an hour to find it; never did (later found out there was a Fri-Sat-Sun festival and some businesses closed).

Returned to tender dock and taxi drivers called Europcar to see if they were open; they were and we took taxi to the office. Took about an hour to get through the car rental line. We were on our way at 11:30 am. Hour and a half drive, brief lunch and short visit to Ponte Vecchio (I wanted to go to a particular store, but we got there too late - it was closed for siesta). Then drove to Pisa. Another quick stop for pictures and souvenir shopping.

We drove through really beautiful country side. We really enjoyed going on our own. Suggestion would be to have lots of 5 euro bills for the toll booths (we went through 8, including one twice). We lucked out with parking in both places, around the corner from Ponte Vecchio and within two blocks at Pisa. Cost was $88 euros for car rental (Fiat Corso), $41 euros for diesel. We had car dropped off and us back to tender dock by 6 pm.

If you do this, road signs refer to Florence by its Italian name, Firenze. Europcar also gave us a highway map (our route: A12 to A11 to Florence, then back same way and south on SS1 to Pisa). We had a handheld GPS unit we took with us, which basically verified we were going in the right direction.
 
Hi, I really appreciate your postings. Could you please give me the contact information for your tour guide in Pompeii?
 
We took the VIP Vatican and Highlights of Rome Tour. It was absolutely worth every penny we spent.

We went into the Vatican museum after it was closed to the public. We had lots of time in the Sistine Chapel and meandered through the halls of the Vatican museum and were allowed to see the Pope's private car collection. It was spectacular.

It was all very, very well organized with minimal waiting and crowds. We heard from other folks who did not do the VIP tour that they were squashed in massive crowds and unbearable heat (only one area was air conditioned, the hall with the tapestries) and that you could barely see anything.

Another family who went on their own told us they were very disappointed because their tour guides were to have purchased tickets in advace, which they did not and they wasted most of their day waiting in lines and fearing they would miss the boat.

We spent quite a bit of time walking through the Forum and around the Coloseum before leaving for Vatican City. It was a terrific tour and the companies Disney hired were really top notch.

The worst tour we took was the Florence/Pisa tour. We were hustled through Florence pretty quickly, barely had time to stop and take pictures, then were taken to a very creepy private club for lunch (my kids called it the Haunted Mansion) and lunch took 2 HOURS! It was yucky food, none of us enjoyed it and then there was so much traffic we were late getting to Pisa. It took 15 minutes to walk from the bus to the Leaning Tower of Pisa, we had approximately 5 minutes to take pictures and hustle back to our bus (i am not exaggerating here, and because my daughter needed to use the restroom I took one picture - was not in any pictures there myself - and we left).

Other than that tour, all of the rest of the Disney excursions we took were terrific.

Cayce

Cayce
 
We just got back from the 11 night cruise, and had an awesome time. We had thought that this would not be a "Disney" cruise, but were pleasantly surprised that we were able to experience Europe, and have a relaxing Disney vacation at the same time. It was our best vacation ever!
We did not do any shore excursions with DCL. We did them all on our own, using proir advice from this thread (especially jokicha - THANKS!) and from Rick Steve's book. Had an awesome time with no real hassles. Rome turns out to be a tiring day, and Florence/Pisa together is a long day with tight connections.
We walked Palermo on our own - DD15 thought it was the most authentic Italian town we visited. Had some (not very good) gelato.
At Naples, we did Pompeii and Sorrento with a taxi driver. Had a tough time getting a cab to just take us to the train station, and finally gave in to getting driven to each place. Would do the train on our own next time and save the money. Ate lunch at Pizzeria Aurora in Sorrento, which is recommended by the ship and the taxi driver. Heads up - you must order a pizza for everybody in your party if yu want sit-down service, and one pizza is huge. After they would not take our order for two pizzas, we went to the take-out window, where you can order what you want. We then at at a local park. Note - for our family of four, one pizza was enough - gave the other one to the cab driver. Also, each pizza was 8-10 euro, and although they were good, certainly not to-die for! We were back to the boat about 3:15.
In Olbia, we took it easy and got off the ship after lunch (kids slept in late). By this time, most of the shops were on siesta. This port is just getting ready to be something, with lots of construction going on at the port area. We saw brand new palm trees getting watered (and still wrapped-up), and they were assembling street lights. Not much here, but it will be something soon. Lots of nice beaches nearby, although it was very windy when we were there.
At Civivatecchia, we walked to the train station, but just missed the 8:02 train. Caught the 9:06 (9 euro/pp/rt) into S. Pietro, and stood in line 20 minutes to go through security to get into St. Peters Basilica. We did the "Tombs of the Popes", and saw John Paul's tomb, as well as St. Peter's tomb - pretty cool. The church itself is huge, and very pretty. We attempted to get reservations (via e-mail and fax) to the Sistine Chapel, but had no success. While we were waiting in line, independent guides offered us the opportunity to tour the Sistine Chapel with them, but we declined. For our family, I am glad we just spent time at St. Peter's, although I am sure the Sistine Chapel would have been awesome. From there we started walking, and did the Spanish Steps, Trevi Fountain, and Pantheon. About 2 short blocks away from the Pantheon we had the most incredible gelato at Giolotti's (spelling?) - well worth back-tracking. We then walked to the Roman Forum, Palatine Hill, and the Colosseum. At the Colosseum, we walked by about an hour-and-a-half line since we had advance reservations (by phone) for 3:00. We toured the Colosseum, got on the subway to Termini, and caught a train to Civivatecchia, arriving back at the boat between 5:30 and 6:00. Incredible day - we saw more than most others, and paid a lot less!
Enjoyed our sea day, and felt sorry for those on the 10-day who do not have this day to recoup.
At La Spezia, ended up on the third ferry out. It appears that DCL has this better organized than they did earlier, as we did not follow their rules (went upper right as jokicha recommended), and missed the first two, although we were there. Caught a taxi to the train station, and had plenty of time to figure out what we needed to do, with the help of a lady selling tickets. Took the train to Florence (changed trains in Pisa), and then took a cab to Ponte Vecchio. From there we walked back towards the train station, giving us just under two hours to check things out. Really saw everything we wanted to, but little time for shopping, although we did have to stop for gelato. Caught a train to the main station in Pisa (schedule said Livorno), and took a cab to the Leaning Tower (we had been there before, but the kids really wanted to go - as did most kids (and teens) that we talked to). Spent some time there (photos, souvenirs) and tried to get a taxi to a different train station, with no success. Started talking with a police officer, and told him we wanted to go to the Pisa Sossore(spelling?) train station, and he said it was an easy walk - maybe 1 km. We took off not knowing exactly where it was, but found it easy enough. The first train on the schedule said it would go to La Spezia, but the conductor said no. Next train was only 10 minutes later, and it did go to La Spezia, arriving in La Spezia at 5:08. We walked through the town of La Spezia on the way back, stopping to call home, buty some Italian shoes, and a stop at a grocery store to pick up a treat called Happy Hippos (by Kinder). Very nice town. Again, we saw more and paid less than people on the tours.
Marseilles, we just did the panoramic Little Train up to Notre Dame de la Garde (spelling?). Very nice city, but no big deal.
At Villefranche, we got an early start, and waited for an hour in the Buena Vista Theater before we could get a tender. The first tenders all went to guests who had DCL shore excursions, so we got the first tender for independent travelers. After a quick 5-minute walk to the Villefranche train station, we took the train into Monaco-Monte Carlo. Spent some time at the Palace, and caught the 'Changing of the Guard'. Took the train back, and stopped at Eze Sur Mer, taking time to go to a local beach. Got back onto the train into Villefranche, and decided to go back to the ship and get a bite to eat, and get our swimsuits. After a snack, we walked to the local Villefranche beach, and spent the rest of the afternoon swimming and sunning in the Med. It was an awesome way to end the trip (think Castaway Cay).
We were so happy with this cruise. Great weather - blue skies, no clouds, and 85 degrees every day (except the start of the Naples day). We unpacked once, got to see the highlights of Europe, come back to familiar surroundings, eat very good food with great service, and be entertained every night. What a way to go!:thumbsup2
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
 
We just got back from the 11 night cruise, and had an awesome time. We had thought that this would not be a "Disney" cruise, but were pleasantly surprised that we were able to experience Europe, and have a relaxing Disney vacation at the same time. It was our best vacation ever!
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I have a question about the tendering in LaSpezia - could you explain the best way to do it? How long did it take to tender, since you were on the 3rd boat? We are meeting a guide there.

Thank you.
 
To take a tender as an independent, you need to assemble your whole group and go to the Buena Vista Theater. They will give you a ticket, and ask you to sit in a designated row. They then take people in order of arrival - about 40 at a time while we were there - to fill in spaces left open from DCL excursions. They will probably say that tenders for non-DCL excursions start at 8:00, but based on our experience (and others), be down to the theater between 7:15 and 7:30. You will probably have a short wait in the theater, and about a 20 minute ride into town.
Have fun!
 
If you or anyone reading this does not have an excursion booked for Villefranche - I strongly recommend doing Eze Village on your own - you can take a cab from the port to the bottom of hill to the old village for $35 Euro each way - ( we took the bus #100 from Villefrance to Nice then transferred, after a 1/2 hr wait to bus #112 - trip took us about 1.5 hrs after walking up the hills in VF trying to find the bus stop - and cost us almost $20 Euro in bus fairs for the 4 of us) we took the $35 Euro direct taxi return ( there was a police officer at the bottom of the hill in Eze who called a cab (BMW!) for us. It was worth the extra $. You can spend as much time as you would like in Eze - Note that the restaurants at the bottom of the hill stopped serving lunch at 3pm -but we were able to get pizza at the cafe in the hotel across the street at the bottom.

I highly recommend you go to Les Trois Etoiles in Eze Village - http://luxuryexperience.com/luxury_products/pantry/les_trois_etoiles.html - stop by and tell the owner Horst - that Sherri from New Jersey says HI! He is a great guy! You can sample any of the wonderful olive oils, vinegars and liquors that he sells in beautiful bottles. He wraps them VERY well -tell him all of ours arrive home in perfect condition! Eze Village, and the time spent in Horst's company was one of the highlights of our trip! Beware - there is a lot of climbing, but once up in the village - the inclines are not that steep and very worth the effort!

Horst also told us of the short cut to the Fragonard Perfume factory - the tour is free - and your guide then gladly helps you select your purchases! It was fun, especially the begining of the tour where they let you try to be a "Nose" and see how well you can identify scents!

Just a quick comment on the DCL excursion in Palermo "Mondello Beach" I felt this was way overpriced. The beach is short and crowded - a fellow DCL'er had their camera stolen right in front of us (granted - he left it hanging from his shorts hooked through the support on the umbrella!) When you get off of the ship in Palermo there is a tourist desk that offers Hop on Hop off bus tours - and taxi info - I would have done this port on our own if I had known that.

ENJOY YOUR CRUISE!! WE SURE DID! Thanks for all the tips from those that sailed before us - I hope I helped someone here. Hope to post a trip report soon!


Sher
 
We just got back from the 11 night cruise, and had an awesome time. We had thought that this would not be a "Disney" cruise, but were pleasantly surprised that we were able to experience Europe, and have a relaxing Disney vacation at the same time. It was our best vacation ever!
We did not do any shore excursions with DCL. We did them all on our own, using proir advice from this thread (especially jokicha - THANKS!)


You are welcome! I'm so glad to hear that others are having a great time doing the ports on their own. You are right about the day at sea between Rome and LaSpezia...it was nice to sleep in, do laundry and just hang out. :banana:
 
CubcatsK&D: We have booked a tour with icontours. The only down side is that it starts at 1pm so we can't start or end our day at the Vatican. We are planning on taking the train to termini, visiting the colosseum, forum then taking a bus to the Vatican. We'll grab some lunch (can we even find some at this hour?). After the tour we were planning on visiting the Pantheon and Trevi fountain ,getting dinner then taking the train back to the ship? How did you plan your day?

Can you tell me how your planning went? This is exactly how we have planned our day seeing we have the 1:00 ICON tour.

Thanks.
 
we took the 8:00 train to termini, then got on the double decker bus over to the colesseum (make sure you buy your tickets at palentine hill to skip the colesseum lines), then walked to the forum, got back on the bus over to the vatican (got there at 12:30), went on our vatican tour, walked over to the pantheon, and then trevi fountain and then walked back to the train station to catch the 5:36 train back...
 
If you make reservations at the Acaddemia, Vatican Museum and Colloseum, you will accomplish a lot in one day. It costs nothing to reserve and you don’t pay until you are there. If you can’t make it, that’s fine---no cost. To see the David, inside the Colloseum and the Sistine Chapel—priceless!!
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I have a question about the Vatican, I know this is an old post but hopefully someone will have an answer

I see where you can purchase tickets ahead of time for the Vatican
You are talking about making reservations and not knowning until a few days prior by fax

Is this just a reservation and then you pay for the tickets when you get there? Where you do pick up the tickets, is there a different ticket area for anyone with a reservation? Why wouldn't you just purchase the tickets in advance and just walk in once there?

Just trying to figure it out

Thank you
 
When we went, they sent us a fax with the time to be there about a week before from the Vatican. What rocked was we were able to bypass the entire line and go right in. We paid once we got there and then got assigned to our guide. Hope that helps
 


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