Dogs at BCV.....

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here now at the BCV. Just saw a woman w two dogs in lobby of villas. Not really happy to see dogs in villas. Just a heads up.
 
I thought the only dogs allowed in the villas are working dogs.
 
Last September, I saw a woman carrying a puppy into the rafiki elevator at Kidani. People can be very bold. I’ve had a dog that was quite unhappy and wined all night at SSR before too. All that was before the dog test experiment.
 
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here now at the BCV. Just saw a woman w two dogs in lobby of villas. Not really happy to see dogs in villas. Just a heads up.

Please write to the powers that be at DVC regarding the dog. I spoke with DVC and BC mgt regarding dogs when the test was announced. I was told they were not allowed and never would be at DVC, except for service dogs. I would sell in a heartbeat if my DVC home started allowing animals.
 
I would guess that she was staying at the Yacht Club (which does allow dogs) and wandered over to the BCV lobby. She shouldn't have been there, but it doesn't mean that BCV allows dogs. Does BCV have someone working in its lobby these days?

There have been concerns, since the dog rule was announced, that dog owners staying in an appropriate hotel would take their dogs to places where they were not allowed and nobody would do anything about it.
 
The only dogs allowed are ADA qualified service dogs, comfort animals do not qualify under the ADA guidelines.
 
Here in Florida Publix is cracking down and enforcing their service dog policy. No more putting Fido in the shopping cart. A legitimate service dog will need to have 4 on the floor. Exceptions would be for diabetic support or similar needs. These dogs can be carried or in a body harness on the owner. Service dog groups support this. Wish Disney parks would follow such a policy and eliminate the dog strollers.

Laura
 
Here in Florida Publix is cracking down and enforcing their service dog policy. No more putting Fido in the shopping cart. A legitimate service dog will need to have 4 on the floor. Exceptions would be for diabetic support or similar needs. These dogs can be carried or in a body harness on the owner. Service dog groups support this. Wish Disney parks would follow such a policy and eliminate the dog strollers.

Laura

I thought it was illegal to ask the nature of a person's disability, and what exactly the service dog is for. Frankly, I think this is a little extreme, and I agree with Public, but can they ask?
 
I thought it was illegal to ask the nature of a person's disability, and what exactly the service dog is for. Frankly, I think this is a little extreme, and I agree with Public, but can they ask?
The ADA allows the company to ask what service the animal is providing, what task they do that the owner is unable to do. Emotional Support Animals have almost no protection at all. Just service animals that perform tasks for the owner.
 
Was during a hurricane evacuation time? They'll let people evacuating from a hurricane bring their pets along.
In breach of the declaration of Condominium, but I think people made an exception for that.
 
Here in Florida Publix is cracking down and enforcing their service dog policy. No more putting Fido in the shopping cart. A legitimate service dog will need to have 4 on the floor. Exceptions would be for diabetic support or similar needs. These dogs can be carried or in a body harness on the owner. Service dog groups support this. Wish Disney parks would follow such a policy and eliminate the dog strollers.

And as much of a dog lover as I am, and I AM, I was thrilled to see Publix take this step! Now if the airlines and other places will do the same! It really has gotten out of hand. I have personally had numerous people tell me to my face how they "just ordered a vest online" for their pet "so (I) can take them everywhere". :mad:

Like children, not all dogs are well socialized, well trained, or even properly vaccinated or cared for. They could have behavior issues in public, which could have serious repercussions as I know a man on a flight did when the passenger next to him on a plane had a pit bull dog as their "support" animal. A support animal does not attack people, they are trained to work and stay focused on their work. That's why one never pets a service animal unless the owner gives express permission.
 
Will say during 4th of July week was shocked to see several leashed, adult dogs sitting on the boardwalk while their owners sat on the benches facing the lake, apparantly waiting for the FW. Believe they were not service dogs, as no vests were in evidence. Perhaps the owners removed them but doesn’t that defeat the idea of disturbing a working dog?

It was after the 3rd & 4th’s special FW. A night we spent enjoying the buskers, etc. It broke my heart to see majority of the dogs cowering/whimpering, straining at their leashes in fear once the FW started.:worried: Shocked to not see any movement from said owners to comfort them or begin to leave the premises. I am long-time dog owner and have bred dogs in the past. This is akin to abuse as far as I’m concerned.:guilty:

Talked to a CM about it later that night in the lobby. They said they were likely not guests of the property, but locals who brought their pets for a night out.:confused3 Wonder where they parked? Perhaps made a dining reservation and skipped out on it? No way could I see security letting others park there as it was especially challenging to find a spot that trip.

The CM also mentioned that it’s gotten to the point where more than a few people train service dogs on disney property, trying to acclimate them to different situations they may encounter. The CM thought it was not sanctioned but didn’t know for sure.

Not a lawyer but think it might be a liability issue for WDW if one of these animals would bite a guest while. On property being trained.:scratchin Hope the trainers/companies have insurance in place! Service dogs surely need to be properly ready for their service, but perhaps the trainers need to be licensed/monitored to protect the general population. Hot topic that will eventually need addressed IMO.
 
The CM also mentioned that it’s gotten to the point where more than a few people train service dogs on disney property, trying to acclimate them to different situations they may encounter. The CM thought it was not sanctioned but didn’t know for sure.

Not a lawyer but think it might be a liability issue for WDW if one of these animals would bite a guest while. On property being trained.:scratchin Hope the trainers/companies have insurance in place! Service dogs surely need to be properly ready for their service, but perhaps the trainers need to be licensed/monitored to protect the general population. Hot topic that will eventually need addressed IMO.

Perhaps CM was thinking of this:
http://www.wdwinfo.com/news-stories...ervice-dogs-to-the-parks-is-now-suing-disney/
 

"Service dogs in training" are not considered genuine service dogs under the ADA, and have no more privileges than your garden variety pet.

I'd love to take my big friendly Old English Sheepdog with me to WDW, walk him in the MK (watch out children under 8 years old, if you pet him he likes to clean faces!), surprise people at how he'll lay down under a dining table and nap while we eat, and have him sleep on the floor next to the bed where I'm sleeping (as he's done for 9 years), but due to the concern that other guests may be afraid of big dogs, he goes to "camp" (a boarding kennel) while I'm in WDW.
 











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