Do I need a signed letter from "Dad" to take son on cruise?

mjvans

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My hubby and I are going on a cruise this summer (4 nite wonder August 29th). My oldest child is from my first marriage and my ex and I share joint custody, with me having sole physical custody. Do I need to have him sign and have a letter notarized saying that he has given me permission to take him out of the country?? Thanks in advance!
Michelle
 
In Canada we require these letters even to enter the USA so I would take one (notarized by a lawyer) just to be safe. You would not want to be denied entry into Bahamas, Mexico or St. Maarten. I am sure there are other members though that have travelled the same way and can be more accurate. Have a great cruise!
 
I think it is a good idea. I had a friend who had a scary experience with this at an airport recently! It ended up ok but they had to take a later flight in order to get it all straight. Better safe than sorry!
 
There is a form to be filled out and notorized in your cruise documents.
 

Just curious, how would they know he wasn't your and your new hubbys son ?

i'm going on dcl this october and have travelled to US and other places before with son 13 on his own passport he's been travelling with us since he was 2, and self with new hubby and haven't ever taken anything from ex with me or been asked for any proof that he is my son anyway, we all share differnent names so you'd think someone would have asked at some stage ? we are travelling from the UK do you think i need to get this ? i sure hope not i can just see not so dear ex H granting this request along with bombarding me with "why do you need child support from me if you can afford to go on a cruise" questions and hassle. should i take his birth certificate and a copy of our divorce ?
mjvans hope you don't mind me joining your post with this question.
 
I have the same situation and even though I am the sole custodian - I went ahead and had a notorized statement from him saying he knew I was taking our dd out of the country then I was covered and he couldn't come back and say I was kidnapping her.

I would be happy to send you a copy of what I typed up if you'd like. It's at home so I'd have to send it to you tonight or tomorrow. I made sure it was done in front of a notary because there have been issues with people forging his signatures on other things.
 
I was told by a DCL rep that my son needed a permissionletter to take his son on the cruise b/c his mom wasn't coming with us. I understand from this board that a form comes with the cruise documents, but I didn't want to wait until the last minute so I prepared an Affidavit for my former-DIL to sign that gave permission for my grandson to travel with his and/or me and also gave us permission to obtain medical care if needed:

AFFIDAVIT
Authorization of Minor to Travel

COMES NOW, *mom's name*(Affiant) and after being duly sworn, does say and depose as follows:

1. That Affiant is the mother of *child name*, born ____________ (SSN ____________________).


2. That Affiant hereby authorizes *child name* to travel outside of the United States on the Disney Cruise Line ship the "Disney Wonder" with his father, *dad name* and/or his paternal grandmother, *my name* to Orlando, Florida from September 2nd to 5th, 2004.

3. That Affiant hereby grants *dad name* and/or *my name* the authority to obtain any necessary medical treatment for *child name* while vacationing (August 28 to September 5, 2004) in the custody of his father and/or grandmother.
Affiant
________________________(SEAL)
*mom's name*
State of ______________
County of __________________, to wit:
Sworn and subscribed to before me this the ____ day of __________, 2004.
______________________________
Notary Public
My commission expires:__________________

You may not be asked for a permission letter, but better safe than sorry in my opinion.

Sorry ... the formating didn't come thru right, but it gives you an idea.
 
Originally posted by traycie2201
Just curious, how would they know he wasn't your and your new hubbys son ?

i'm going on dcl this october and have travelled to US and other places before with son 13 on his own passport he's been travelling with us since he was 2, and self with new hubby and haven't ever taken anything from ex with me or been asked for any proof that he is my son anyway, we all share differnent names so you'd think someone would have asked at some stage ? we are travelling from the UK do you think i need to get this ? i sure hope not i can just see not so dear ex H granting this request along with bombarding me with "why do you need child support from me if you can afford to go on a cruise" questions and hassle. should i take his birth certificate and a copy of our divorce ?
mjvans hope you don't mind me joining your post with this question.

Being that you're from the UK and not an American citizen this probably won't impact you. The US gov't is trying to make it harder for parents to kidnap their own children and take them overseas.
 
Originally posted by traycie2201
Just curious, how would they know he wasn't your and your new hubbys son ?

I bet the names are different. I would have the letter signed and notarized before you travel. Better to be safe than sorry.
 
Just curious, how would they know he wasn't your and your new hubbys son ?

Presumably, the birth certificate he travels on will not have her second husband's name on it, but her ex listed as her son's father.

Granted, it would take a ticket agent actually looking to catch it, but if they do catch it and you don't have paperwork, there may be a big problem.
 
thanks , i'll phone the court in the morning and check if i need anything before i go. Crisi / Wog with us travelling on passports there are no parents names listed that's why i was curious, thanks for the feedback though :D
p.s i think it's great that the US are doing this to protect families from terrible kidnap situations.i'm not aware that it's a big problem here but i'm sure we'll soon fall into line with what happens elsewhere.
 
my oldest son and I do share the same last name, and I really doubt that anyone will question it, but just to be on the safe side, I did download a copy of an authorization letter to travel and will ask ex to sign............I'm sure he will, but he will definitely make me sweat this one!!
Thanks again!
Michelle
 
Greetings! The answer to this question depends on your legal custody situation. If you have sole legal custody, you do not need a signed letter, but you do need to bring proof of sole custody. This is my situation, and I've never had a problem - I've just brought along a coyp of my court documents. Mexico is especially tough on this one - they will check your papers.

If you share custody, in any way, you need to have a notorized letter from the other parent.

Good luck!
 
Two DCL cruises with my children (different last names) and we did not need anything whatsoever from my ex to "allow" them to travel.

There is a question in the cruise documents which asks if you are traveling with children other than your own. If your answer is "yes" then you will need permission from their parents or guardian. If your answer is "no" then that seems to be the end of it.
 
There is a question in the cruise documents which asks if you are traveling with children other than your own. If your answer is "yes" then you will need permission from their parents or guardian. If your answer is "no" then that seems to be the end of it. [/B]

Well. like I said in an earlier post, I was told by a DCL rep that if my grandson's mom wasn't traveling with grandson and his dad, his dad (not me) needed a permission letter.

We are traveling together, but DS and DGS have a separate ressie so it wasn't that I'm taking DGS w/o either of his parents.

I do have custody of my two younger grandchildren and am taking authenicated copies of the custody papers, even though my their mom (my DD) is traveling with me.

Guess that's my scout training - be prepared ... I'd rather be prepared and not have to show my paperwork, than not have it and be asked.

JMHO!
 
Originally posted by Memaw2Wm
...Guess that's my scout training - be prepared ... I'd rather be prepared and not have to show my paperwork, than not have it and be asked.


I think the point that is being missed is not a matter of taking another piece of paper. For many people there are inherent problems in getting some type of written permission from a non-custodial parent. If it is required, so be it, but if it is completely unnecessary then they certainly don't want to cross that bridge and possibly cause significant problems in taking a trip. I personally know of situations where the ex would refuse to sign or would try to blackmail the custodial parent. Sad, but true.

My personal experience was being told that since I was traveling with my own children that nothing else was needed. That proved to be exactly the case both times we cruised. I took my custody documents, but no one asked to see them.
 
I would check your child custody docs. If they state permission is needed to take them out of the state or country, then I would definately get a signed doc, if it doesn't state this, then I would probably just bring along a copy of that doc.

Howard's docs state that anyone taking the child out of the state must have a signed letter allowing it. In fact his daughter's grandmother just took her to an out of state wedding and called us up asking for a letter.

Also while I understand it may be a problem for some people to get letter, would you want to know yourself if your ex is taking your kids out of the state, country, etc.

Donna
 
I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF....I JUST RETURNED FROM THE 7 DAY WESTERN CRUISE WITH MY SON.....IM A SINGLE MOM...NEVER MARRIED TO HIS FATHER..HE HAS HIS FATHER'S LAST NAME...WE NEVER WENT TO COURT TO HAVE CUSTODY ESTABLISHED...WITH HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE ONLY I HAD NO QUESTIONS ASKED OF ME AT ALL.
 
I am taking my two younger sons on the Wonder in November, but my husband is staying home with the oldest. Do I need permission? I never thought about anything like that. We are still married, no problems, just thought I could take the boys on vacation. I took them all to England two years ago without my husband, and nothing was said. I don't want to get down there and have a problem!
 

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