Do I have to have ADR's?

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we are going to the world in May '09. This means that The ADR window opens in November. While I enjoy obsessing about all things Disney, planning our itinerary that early isn't what this trip is about. We wanted to keep the trip low key. We are early risers so we'll have no problem getting to the parks early, getting the headliners in, doing a couple of other things and then heading back to the resort for swimming and cocktails. I would love to leave our dining decisions open t see what we feel like doing each night. Am I living in Fantasyland (so to speak)? We are staying at the YC so we have over 20 TS restaurants w/i walking distance. Shouldn't this be enough to be able to make ADR's somewhere once we arrive? Do I need to make default ADR's somwhere for each night just in case? can I cancel them if we change our minds?
 
I always find it easier getting into resort restaurants then park ones. There have been times though even Spoodles was packed. I hardly ever make ressie at the 180 day mark ( I only find that really neccessary for the very popular places like CRT, LeCellier etc) but I do make them in advance.

If you do not mind being flexible or waiting for a while for a table then i am sure it is possible to not make ADR"s. For us it is part of the fun of the trip planning where we will eat:rotfl:
 
If you don't book DDP, you should be able to find something. ESPN, Big River Grille & Beaches & Cream don't take ADR's. It seems like Captain's Grille usually has openings. W/o DDP, you're able to take advantage of the DTD restaurants that don't accept the dining plan. We like House of Blues. Your best bet would probably be at the Swan/Dolphin resorts though. They have several offerings that from all counts is better than the avg. WDW restaurants that accept DDP.

I can honestly say, I now know what people mean, when they say they don't want to make plans ahead of time. I never got it, until we recently took a long weekend getaway. (It's been years since we took a trip anywhere w/o making dinner reservations well in advance for every night of our trip.) After that, I've actually told my DH that I'm not really looking forward to our WDW trip in Oct. :eek: On our most recent trip, when our DS(16) asked, "What are we doing next?", it was so nice to say, "Whatever you want to." :goodvibes More than once, he said, "This is my kind of vacation." We always have a set itinerary, but we didn't have anything planned on our last trip. Everyone actually enjoyed it more, which honestly surprised me. Now when anyone asked, "Do I need ADRs?", I'll be offering them possible alternatives rather than saying, "You must make them!". I do think it's possible, if you don't have DDP & don't care where you end up that evening.

Naturally, I do have all my ADRs for our upcoming trip, but I'm not really looking forward to them. :guilty:
 
I say if you dont care where or when you eat then just check in with the concerige at the YC. I am sure they can find something open for you. If you have your heart set on certain places then for sure you need to make ressies
 

Be aware just because you are staying at the YC where you reference over 20 TS restaurants w/i walking distance does not translate to openings. Guest book 180 days in advance to all of these TS restaurants..selecting the days they want along with the prime dining times. This area also have a variety of convention resorts that can book things up very quick too.

You don't have to do ADRs at Disney, but it will impact your dining choices and times you eat. Some days your only option may be counter service only.
 
We go every May (early, never near Memorial Day weekend) and always make our ADRs before we leave. Yes you'll find places to eat. It might be the same places often. Are you willing to walk to each place and continue walking if you get turned away? Is your family ready to hike throughout EPCOT looking for a place to eat? Do you want to wait an hour or more for an openning? Do you plan to spend time at the YC front desk everyday asking who has opennings? This is not how I plan to spend my precious vacation time, so I make most of my ADRs before I arrive. If I change my mind, I stop by the restaurant and cancel or at the front desk and cancel. I also do a couple of walks which include Beaches and Cream and resort restaurants breakfasts. ADRs are a must no matter when you go and since May crowds are at the moderate range, it won't be easy to get into the better places (Chef Mickeys, LeCellier, Coral Reef, Ohanas, WCC).
 
To each their own of course...I go with the no ADRs system personally. I've in fact never made one. And I go to Disney every 2-3 months for 4-5 days at a time, almost always eat at table-service restaurants, and have eaten at just about every restaurant in Disney World. I go off-season, high-season, holiday weekends, etc and always manage a good meal.

Last month, I ate at Jiko (AK Lodge), Maya Grill (CSR), San Angel (Epcot), Le Cellier (Epcot), and Rainforest Cafe (Marketplace) over the 5 nights I was there. No advanced reservations - I called on the morning of that day to check for a table at Le Cellier and San Angel and made reservations for that evening for each.

I spent no time walking around hunting for a place to eat, never had to resort to counter service, and didn't spend any time with concierges tryign to find a place. I pretty much walked up, waited 15-30 minutes, then was sat down for a lovely meal.

There are strategies that help if you decide to try the no-reservation relaxed and free-style vacation:

1. Resort hotels are usually less fully booked and are a great idea for last minute dinner plans where you still want a high quality meal. They range from family style to 5-star, and getting in is easier than the theme park restaurants.

2. Eat at different hours. If you absolutely must eat at 6:30pm - 8pm, you're going to have a harder time, because that's when most families want or need to eat as well. Flexibility in your schedule or timing will make things much easier. Eat after 8pm, or during parades or shows (if you've already seen them, you're not missing anything), and you can get into pretty much any restaurant in the parks even on a holiday weekend.

3. Be flexible as to where to eat on any given night. I can eat at every restaurant I want to eat at, but not necessarily in a planned order. I might determine that I definitely want to eat at Tutto in Epcot, and call for availability - and maybe discover that tonight is booked, but there's availability tomorrow night at 8:30pm. So I'll book that, and then pick a different place to eat tonight. Maybe I had Jiko on my mind this trip - I'll go there tonight, and Tutto tomorrow...everything works out just fine!

4. Be willing to experiment. For whatever reasons, most visitors to Disney tend to stick close to foods they are familiar with - especially American tourists. So steak/American restaurants are much busier than the more ethnic fare. Le Cellier is practically bursting at the seams with reservations...Tutto Italia stays busy since Italian fare is well known in America. Even Boma is popular despite the African name because of the familiar meat dishes. Chef Mickey's, Cinderella's, Tony's, Liberty Tree, Coral Reef - the list goes on. And hey...I love those too, so no criticisms. But, I also enjoy trying all the restaurants out and trying different foods and styles when possible. And very good restaurants like Restaurant Marrakesh, Maya Grill, Nine Dragons, Teppanyaki, and the excellent Jiko tend to have pretty good availability even during the most crowded seasons.

Some people just can't relax or have fun unless they've got their whole trip pre-planned. Some people just can't relax or have fun if they know they have to stick to a schedule. Don't worry - Disney can accomodate both kinds of folks, and provide them a wonderful and memorable vacation!
 
OK. So I'll make some "default" ADR's for Le Cellier, Biergarten, Cape May Cafe etc. as a fall back to reduce stress. Does anyone have any strategies for last minute ADR's? I am not that concerned about "precious vacation time." We have been to the World before and we will be thee again so we are avoiding the commando approach. If we miss something then we will do it on our next visit. I am doing DDP. Like, maybe I can do TS for Lunch in the parks and CS in the evening
 
To each their own of course...I go with the no ADRs system personally. I've in fact never made one. And I go to Disney every 2-3 months for 4-5 days at a time, almost always eat at table-service restaurants, and have eaten at just about every restaurant in Disney World. I go off-season, high-season, holiday weekends, etc and always manage a good meal.

Last month, I ate at Jiko (AK Lodge), Maya Grill (CSR), San Angel (Epcot), Le Cellier (Epcot), and Rainforest Cafe (Marketplace) over the 5 nights I was there. No advanced reservations - I called on the morning of that day to check for a table at Le Cellier and San Angel and made reservations for that evening for each.

I spent no time walking around hunting for a place to eat, never had to resort to counter service, and didn't spend any time with concierges tryign to find a place. I pretty much walked up, waited 15-30 minutes, then was sat down for a lovely meal.

There are strategies that help if you decide to try the no-reservation relaxed and free-style vacation:

1. Resort hotels are usually less fully booked and are a great idea for last minute dinner plans where you still want a high quality meal. They range from family style to 5-star, and getting in is easier than the theme park restaurants.

2. Eat at different hours. If you absolutely must eat at 6:30pm - 8pm, you're going to have a harder time, because that's when most families want or need to eat as well. Flexibility in your schedule or timing will make things much easier. Eat after 8pm, or during parades or shows (if you've already seen them, you're not missing anything), and you can get into pretty much any restaurant in the parks even on a holiday weekend.

3. Be flexible as to where to eat on any given night. I can eat at every restaurant I want to eat at, but not necessarily in a planned order. I might determine that I definitely want to eat at Tutto in Epcot, and call for availability - and maybe discover that tonight is booked, but there's availability tomorrow night at 8:30pm. So I'll book that, and then pick a different place to eat tonight. Maybe I had Jiko on my mind this trip - I'll go there tonight, and Tutto tomorrow...everything works out just fine!

4. Be willing to experiment. For whatever reasons, most visitors to Disney tend to stick close to foods they are familiar with - especially American tourists. So steak/American restaurants are much busier than the more ethnic fare. Le Cellier is practically bursting at the seams with reservations...Tutto Italia stays busy since Italian fare is well known in America. Even Boma is popular despite the African name because of the familiar meat dishes. Chef Mickey's, Cinderella's, Tony's, Liberty Tree, Coral Reef - the list goes on. And hey...I love those too, so no criticisms. But, I also enjoy trying all the restaurants out and trying different foods and styles when possible. And very good restaurants like Restaurant Marrakesh, Maya Grill, Nine Dragons, Teppanyaki, and the excellent Jiko tend to have pretty good availability even during the most crowded seasons.

Some people just can't relax or have fun unless they've got their whole trip pre-planned. Some people just can't relax or have fun if they know they have to stick to a schedule. Don't worry - Disney can accomodate both kinds of folks, and provide them a wonderful and memorable vacation!


THANKS!!!

This exactly what I was thinking of. These tips are going in my notebook.
 
If you have a small party, who doesn't really care when or what you eat , you should be ok with trying to call in the am for same day seating.But if you really want a Ts meal, have a larger party,picky eaters, or have preferences as to when you eat make them ahead of time.I swear in the last 5 yrs or so i have never seen anything like it.You used to be able to walk up or call same day for popular places.Now they are sold out months in advance.
 
Strategies for last minute:

Be flexible:
Be prepared to eat early or late
Try lunch
Try resort restaurants for dinner - particularly signature places
Don't expect the most popular meals (though sometimes they happen).
Consider eating at the bar.

Call from your cell phone to get ADRs - that avoids hiking across the park to discover the restaurant you want is booked up.

Small parties are easier to seat than large parties.

Don't use the DDP - if you can't find an acceptable table service place, you don't want to "waste credits."
 
I am doing DDP. Like, maybe I can do TS for Lunch in the parks and CS in the evening

If you weren't doing the DDP I would be more inclined to say do what ever works for you, it's your vacation and you know your family best. When we do the dining plan I like to feel that we have made a wise financial choice. You do have to factor that you might get locked out of doing a TS on any given day and if you do TS for lunch, by choice or necessity, it is not the best value for the DDP (dinners of course being more costly).

I am glad zackiedawg hasn't had any problems doing things his way. Sure it might work out just great, but I don't think I would want to chance it if I was paying for the DDP. I agree with the previous poster, maybe DDP isn't for you this trip.

Hope you have a great trip no matter what you decide!:goodvibes
 
I am glad zackiedawg hasn't had any problems doing things his way. Sure it might work out just great, but I don't think I would want to chance it if I was paying for the DDP. I agree with the previous poster, maybe DDP isn't for you this trip.

Yeah...the fact that the OP is on the DDP wasn't in the original post I replied to...It might be a little harder to go completely spontaneous while getting your money's worth on the DDP.

Along with ADRs, I also have never used the DDP!
 
Yeah...the fact that the OP is on the DDP wasn't in the original post I replied to...It might be a little harder to go completely spontaneous while getting your money's worth on the DDP.

Along with ADRs, I also have never used the DDP!

Thanks all. I'm convinced. I have plenty of time but I think I'll make ADR's for Le Cellier, and Biergarten and the Cape May Clam Bake. We'll be in MK one night so I'll ADR Liberty Tavern or maybe something on the monorail for that night. I think I'll ADR the Cape May Character b'fast for our last day or Yachtman Steakhouse for last night. That way I know that if I ditch the others I can go nuts before I leave.
 
In addition to Zackiedawg's excellent points, we should note there is a big difference between a solo diner or couple being able to be seated, and a family of four.
"he who travels fastest travels alone...and that goes double for she"
 
In addition to Zackiedawg's excellent points, we should note there is a big difference between a solo diner or couple being able to be seated, and a family of four.
"he who travels fastest travels alone...and that goes double for she"

Indeed true. I don't always solo though...last month it was tables for two :wizard: princess: ...in two weeks it'll be tables for 1 :banana: ...Dec will be tables for two again :) :) , and January will be tables for 6! :hippie: :bride: :3dglasses :yay: pirate: princess: I'm not always a loner. ;)
 
Didn't they change the ADR window to 90 days? Or is it back to 180?

Apparently things are changing. The following is from another thread. The poster is a Dining CM.:)


Another Change To The Booking Window Past 1/25
Hello,

Thought I'd pass along the latest on the new Dining Reseravtions System. I don't have all the info yet but it seems that now the new system "Scheduled Events" won't be ready until late November instead of late October as originally thought. It also seems that they will be opening up the old system to accept bookings though Februaury 22nd. This will happen after August 30th. As of right now you can only book through January 25th in the old system. (With the exception of CRT, CM & V&A) Hope this is helpful to those of you with Feb. trips planned.
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