Disneyland Reopening Speculation Superthread

[TikiTikiFan]

I would at least appreciate some transparency on when/why not

This is what’s frustrating me the most.

 

[midnight star]

Disney should just say, "we are opening on this date". I'm sure that will get his attention....

 

[gottalovepluto]

Newsom didn't mention anything in regards to theme parks during his press conference. Now let's see if anyone asks questions. I would at least appreciate some transparency on when/why not

Unfortunately that is not a thing here. Unlike FL where we were able to keep tabs on all this stuff due to their laws, in CA all this stuff is done behind closed doors and out of view of the public.

 

[CrimsonRave]

Nope ended.... no press question....

 

[bgswan]

Good news. Only 133 new cases today, 0 new deaths. "Orange" tier trend/watch continues, which can only bode well for DLR prospects...

 

[montreid]

Really - just get Food+Wine festival going. everything but the rides -- at least that'll get some things moving again.

So disappointed that Newsom dragging his feet on this with no leadership guidance since 'soon' in July.

 

[Bigmace]

Just cancelled our November trip. When I booked it over 4 months ago I really thought by November they would be open no problem. Heading to WDW!

Still have a trip booked for March, Disneyland has to be open by then.... Right???

 

[EddieK76]

Just cancelled our November trip. When I booked it over 4 months ago I really thought by November they would be open no problem. Heading to WDW!

Still have a trip booked for March, Disneyland has to be open by then.... Right???

No, it's moving to Texas remember???? hahahaha

 

[bassgirl]

Really - just get Food+Wine festival going. everything but the rides -- at least that'll get some things moving again.

So disappointed that Newsom dragging his feet on this with no leadership guidance since 'soon' in July.

My guess is that Disney doesn't want to go that route for some reason. Maybe they want to be able to give at least 90% of a Disneyland experience instead of just a 60% experience. And maybe they are using DTD as their alternative which from what I have seen on the other forum is a pretty good one. I wouldn't want to walk through the gates of Disneyland and not have the full atmosphere. It would be terribly depressing.

 

[midnight star]

Good news from LA County. Hopefully this is a good sign for theme parks in the socal region as there is a lot of movement between the counties. Now to just get Newsom to release guidance...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1310694368777388032

 

[dina444444]

New D23 Expo Dates have been announced, I have also started a super thread for those that are planning on going.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/d23-expo-september-9-11-2022-superthread-new-dates.3814469/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1310708447919271936

 

[mentos]

https://apple.news/AtmdwjUAWQc-vx9fwXZCkgA
State senators and assembly members requesting guidelines.

the walls are closing in! lol

Article here:

CA State Legislators Ask Governor Newsom To Allow Disneyland To Reopen


A large group of California state senators and assemblymembers sent a letter to Governor Gavin Newsom on Monday requesting that Newsom issue guidelines for parks such as Disneyland, Universal Studios and Knott’s Berry Farm to reopen.


This comes one week after Newsom promised he would issue such guidelines “very soon.”


From the letter:


Many indoor facilities are already operating safely at reduced capacities, with face covering and physical distancing requirements, and with heightened hygiene practices. Logic would suggest that since theme parks are controlled venues operating predominantly outdoors, that they too could reopen with similar health and safety protocols.


Josh D’Amaro, the new chairman of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products last Tuesday begged California officials to let Disneyland reopen and to “treat theme parks the way you treat other sectors.”


Movie theaters and theme parks are among the entertainment businesses hardest hit by COVID. Comcast CEO Brian Roberts said at an investor conference last week that Universal theme parks are currently 70% of the media giant’s COVID problem. The Orlando and Osaka parks are operating at 25% of pre-pandemic attendance and Universal Studios – like Disneyland – has yet to open.


Monday’s letter was signed by state legislators Tom Daly, Bob Archuleta, Kansen Chu, Tom Umberg, Chad Mayes, Sabrina Cervantes, Blanca Rubio, Patrick O’Donnell, Heath Flora, Adrin Nazarian, Phillip Chen, Pat Bates, Ling Ling Chang, Christy Smith, Cathleen Galgiani, John Moorlach, Tim Grayson and Richard Bloom.


The letter makes a similar argument to D’Amaro’s, noting that Newsom has issued reopening guidance for virtually every business sector to comply with, but:


Theme Parks have not been addressed in this Blueprint – they have no path forward, no guidance documents for the state’s expectations related to reopening, and no sense of timing to share with their anxious employees and guests. Counties are already beginning to move through tiers and yet none know when this large sector within their communities will be allowed to reopen.


Wrote D’Amaro last week: “To our California government officials, particularly at the state level, I encourage you to treat theme parks like you would other sectors and help us reopen. We need guidelines that are fair and equitable so we can better understand our future and chart a path toward reopening,” said D’Amaro, who took the top parks job in May.


To that end, the California Attractions and Parks Association, which represents parks and attractions in the state, issued what it called its own comprehensive plan for reopening on Monday.


In terms of physical distancing, the CAPA document maintains that parks are “in the business of moving people,” and that “guests are generally kept in motion.” It also notes that most activities at California amusement parks take place outside, which is in keeping with Newsom’s stated best practices for businesses. The document argues that amusement parks have opened in 43 states and, unlike bars and restaurants, the data do not show parks contributing to coronavirus spread.


The legislators’ letter maintains that theme parks closed down voluntarily six months ago and have been working diligently to create “comprehensive plans that include capacity reductions, thorough health and


safety protocols, and park-wide modifications to support these efforts.”


The letter echoes one of Newsom’s mantras, which is that data should guide decisionmaking.


Legislators contend that, “Data seems to point to a path for responsible reopening of theme parks. Doing so will not only provide safe, outdoor activities for families but also put people back to work and generate much needed income for our local governments.”


Jobs were also near the front of D’Amaro’s mind last week when he observed, “The longer we wait, the more devastating the impact will be to the Orange County and Anaheim communities and to the tens of thousands of people who rely on us for employment. With the right guidelines and our years of operations experience, I am confident that we can restart and get people back to work.”


“We’re ready,” maintained D’Amaro. “And more importantly, it’s time.”

 

[Dr. G]

Candy Cane Inn just automatically cancelled my reservation for the last week in October. I guess they don't think Disneyland is opening in October.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

State senators and assembly members requesting guidelines.

the walls are closing in! lol

Good, it’s starting to feel like he’s just stalling for as long as he can.

 

[DLgal]

https://apple.news/AtmdwjUAWQc-vx9fwXZCkgA
State senators and assembly members requesting guidelines.

the walls are closing in! lol

Article here:

CA State Legislators Ask Governor Newsom To Allow Disneyland To Reopen


A large group of California state senators and assemblymembers sent a letter to Governor Gavin Newsom on Monday requesting that Newsom issue guidelines for parks such as Disneyland, Universal Studios and Knott’s Berry Farm to reopen.


This comes one week after Newsom promised he would issue such guidelines “very soon.”


From the letter:


Many indoor facilities are already operating safely at reduced capacities, with face covering and physical distancing requirements, and with heightened hygiene practices. Logic would suggest that since theme parks are controlled venues operating predominantly outdoors, that they too could reopen with similar health and safety protocols.


Josh D’Amaro, the new chairman of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products last Tuesday begged California officials to let Disneyland reopen and to “treat theme parks the way you treat other sectors.”


Movie theaters and theme parks are among the entertainment businesses hardest hit by COVID. Comcast CEO Brian Roberts said at an investor conference last week that Universal theme parks are currently 70% of the media giant’s COVID problem. The Orlando and Osaka parks are operating at 25% of pre-pandemic attendance and Universal Studios – like Disneyland – has yet to open.


Monday’s letter was signed by state legislators Tom Daly, Bob Archuleta, Kansen Chu, Tom Umberg, Chad Mayes, Sabrina Cervantes, Blanca Rubio, Patrick O’Donnell, Heath Flora, Adrin Nazarian, Phillip Chen, Pat Bates, Ling Ling Chang, Christy Smith, Cathleen Galgiani, John Moorlach, Tim Grayson and Richard Bloom.


The letter makes a similar argument to D’Amaro’s, noting that Newsom has issued reopening guidance for virtually every business sector to comply with, but:


Theme Parks have not been addressed in this Blueprint – they have no path forward, no guidance documents for the state’s expectations related to reopening, and no sense of timing to share with their anxious employees and guests. Counties are already beginning to move through tiers and yet none know when this large sector within their communities will be allowed to reopen.


Wrote D’Amaro last week: “To our California government officials, particularly at the state level, I encourage you to treat theme parks like you would other sectors and help us reopen. We need guidelines that are fair and equitable so we can better understand our future and chart a path toward reopening,” said D’Amaro, who took the top parks job in May.


To that end, the California Attractions and Parks Association, which represents parks and attractions in the state, issued what it called its own comprehensive plan for reopening on Monday.


In terms of physical distancing, the CAPA document maintains that parks are “in the business of moving people,” and that “guests are generally kept in motion.” It also notes that most activities at California amusement parks take place outside, which is in keeping with Newsom’s stated best practices for businesses. The document argues that amusement parks have opened in 43 states and, unlike bars and restaurants, the data do not show parks contributing to coronavirus spread.


The legislators’ letter maintains that theme parks closed down voluntarily six months ago and have been working diligently to create “comprehensive plans that include capacity reductions, thorough health and


safety protocols, and park-wide modifications to support these efforts.”


The letter echoes one of Newsom’s mantras, which is that data should guide decisionmaking.


Legislators contend that, “Data seems to point to a path for responsible reopening of theme parks. Doing so will not only provide safe, outdoor activities for families but also put people back to work and generate much needed income for our local governments.”


Jobs were also near the front of D’Amaro’s mind last week when he observed, “The longer we wait, the more devastating the impact will be to the Orange County and Anaheim communities and to the tens of thousands of people who rely on us for employment. With the right guidelines and our years of operations experience, I am confident that we can restart and get people back to work.”


“We’re ready,” maintained D’Amaro. “And more importantly, it’s time.”

I wish I could like this 100 times over.

Go! Go! Go!

 

[Self-Rescuing Princess]

In Arizona, the Governor there refused to let or give guidance for gyms to open. They sued and he had to give them guidance within a week. I wonder if that may end up being Disney's last resort.

 

[EmJ]

Does anyone want to comment on my new theory as to why the expiration date on multi-day tickets hasn't been extended? As I understand it, multi-day tickets never truly "expire". They hold their value after their expiration date, and you can still use them but have to pay the up-charge if ticket prices have increased in the meantime. But what if Disney doesn't plan to raise prices, say, for one year? Then anyone with a multiday ticket doesn't pay more and essentially gets a one-year extension on the usability of their tickets at the price they paid. I would NEVER expect Disney to come out and announce they aren't raising prices, but just sort of quietly leaving them alone would be a lot less brain damage than the IT work involved in changing everyone's expiration dates.

Or at least that's what my insomniac brain came up with at 1:00 am last night.

 

[VandVsmama]

In Arizona, the Governor there refused to let or give guidance for gyms to open. They sued and he had to give them guidance within a week. I wonder if that may end up being Disney's last resort.

It certainly looks like it!

 

[VandVsmama]

Does anyone want to comment on my new theory as to why the expiration date on multi-day tickets hasn't been extended? As I understand it, multi-day tickets never truly "expire". They hold their value after their expiration date, and you can still use them but have to pay the up-charge if ticket prices have increased in the meantime. But what if Disney doesn't plan to raise prices, say, for one year? Then anyone with a multiday ticket doesn't pay more and essentially gets a one-year extension on the usability of their tickets at the price they paid. I would NEVER expect Disney to come out and announce they aren't raising prices, but just sort of quietly leaving them alone would be a lot less brain damage than the IT work involved in changing everyone's expiration dates.

Or at least that's what my insomniac brain came up with at 1:00 am last night.

I think that your theory has some merit to it. But I wish that they would just go ahead and extend the expiration date of the multi-day tickets. Here's why:

1. When I called Disneyland earlier this summer and asked about it, I was told that I'd have to go IN PERSON to the ticket booth with the expired tickets.
2. Then the dollar value of the wholly unused expired tickets would be applied to new tickets.
3. If the new tickets cost more than the expired ones, then I'll have to pay the difference.
4. And if park reservations are required, then that means that you need a valid ticket, not an expired one.
5. Thus, you can't get a park reservation unless you go in person to the ticket booth first.
6. BUT if you know that the park reservations are all booked up (which is a good possibility for quite awhile), then your odds of everything working out are slim to none.
7. All of the above is great if you live in southern CA. But we live in AZ and are a ~5.5-6 hr drive away. It's not like I can just pop over to the Esplanade after work or anything like that.

 

[EmJ]

I think that your theory has some merit to it. But I wish that they would just go ahead and extend the expiration date of the multi-day tickets. Here's why:

1. When I called Disneyland earlier this summer and asked about it, I was told that I'd have to go IN PERSON to the ticket booth with the expired tickets.
2. Then the dollar value of the wholly unused expired tickets would be applied to new tickets.
3. If the new tickets cost more than the expired ones, then I'll have to pay the difference.
4. And if park reservations are required, then that means that you need a valid ticket, not an expired one.
5. Thus, you can't get a park reservation unless you go in person to the ticket booth first.
6. BUT if you know that the park reservations are all booked up (which is a good possibility for quite awhile), then your odds of everything working out are slim to none.
7. All of the above is great if you live in southern CA. But we live in AZ and are a ~5.5-6 hr drive away. It's not like I can just pop over to the Esplanade after work or anything like that.

Yikes! I did not know ANY of that. I'm in Colorado--a two hour flight or three day drive. That will never work. Suppose I get an on-site hotel stay? If WDW is our guide, will that shoe-horn me into the reservation system so that I know I have a reservation before I go, and can exchange/upgrade my tickets when I get there?