Disneyland at Christmas/Holiday Season Superthread #3!- HOLIDAYS BEGIN 11/12/13!!

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Trying not to freak out. Our vacation plans were hinged on me not needing to get coverage at work. There was no one scheduled off for the week we are going. We have a trainee who is due to be done training by then & was supposed to come to my shift which would have meant that I could have the time off without needing to get my shift hours covered. Well, now not only is she possibly being put to another shift, but 2 of the other 3 employees on my shift are being sent to training that week! Eek! The flight i nothing to worry about financially (used rapid rewards) but our park tickets have already been purchased. Ugh! Keeping my fingers crossed and trying not to think bad thoughts.
 
It is crazy,(but not too crazy;))!!!

We've done it, and we're doing it again this year:yay:!

Know it will be busy, go in with a general plan, and you will have a wonderful time!
 
I think that the word "package" leads people to think they are getting a deal and actually saving money. As I mentioned to you a while back, in the old prehistoric days of packages at DLR they actually did save money and they were worthwhile. But now I don't see much reason for a package when you get the same hotel perks (like early entry) with a room-only deal. You just don't get the little extras like a free pin and lanyard, or a free bag or whatever it is they are giving with the packages. I guess people just buy them because of the convenience?

For me, the advantage of a package is that I get 6 months interest-free financing with the Disney Visa card, plus I can make payments online and I can get the interest-free financing on each payment.
 
Laurie!:cool1::cool1:

I'm glad you finally had time to make it to this thread! Knowing how many pictures you take I was hoping that you would at least post a few NOS and/or HMH photos so you could get an entry into the random draw for the $25 Disney gift card. And you did! If you participate in any other Theme Weeks (and there will be 18 more themes to go as of this coming Monday), you will get a separate entry for each one you submit photos for (whether it's one photo or 20 photos, it's still a guaranteed entry per theme!).



Not sure if this has been discussed as I haven't read the whole thread but I was wondering about the crowd levels Dec 19th-22nd.... we wouldn't normally consider this weekend but we want to do a Christmas trip and don't want our teenage kids to miss school.

Is is manageable? Or just too crazy?

Thanks!

kkmcan --

Welcome!

As Cheshirecatty advised, go into it knowing that it will be crowded and have a plan. That is really the best advice.:thumbsup2 If you know what to expect it will be less surprising when you get there, and it can be more manageable that way.

I used to go to DLR on the weekend right before Christmas -- I did that 3 years in a row (2007-2009). It's not that I would refuse to go during that time ever again, but if I did I would try to stay even longer so that I had more time to try to get things done.

When I last went during that time in 2009, it was much more crowded than I had expected it to be. It had been crowded in 2007 and 2008, but 2009 seemed to be different (and I think we later discovered that 2009 was the busiest holiday season at DLR in the 10 years that had preceded it!:faint:). Because I was expecting more of what I had experienced in 2008 and 2007, I was quite taken aback at the massive crowds packed into New Orleans Square and everywhere else.

After that trip I decided to start taking my December trips earlier in the month, which is what I have been doing ever since!

So I would go on that right-before-Christmas weekend again but I would just mentally prepare myself that it was going to be very crowded and I would extend the trip by a couple of extra days.



Trying not to freak out. Our vacation plans were hinged on me not needing to get coverage at work. There was no one scheduled off for the week we are going. We have a trainee who is due to be done training by then & was supposed to come to my shift which would have meant that I could have the time off without needing to get my shift hours covered. Well, now not only is she possibly being put to another shift, but 2 of the other 3 employees on my shift are being sent to training that week! Eek! The flight i nothing to worry about financially (used rapid rewards) but our park tickets have already been purchased. Ugh! Keeping my fingers crossed and trying not to think bad thoughts.

egritz --

I am crossing my fingers for you that nothing messes up your trip, especially since the tickets have been purchased! Yikes!

So does this all now rest on whether or not the trainee is put on another shift or can work your shift? Is there anyone else outside of the 3 employees going to training who could possibly step in and save the day, covering your shift?




It is crazy,(but not too crazy;))!!!

We've done it, and we're doing it again this year:yay:!

Know it will be busy, go in with a general plan, and you will have a wonderful time!

Cheshirecatty --

Good advice! Knowing what one is getting into is the first weapon in the war on over-crowdedness!:rotfl2:

As I mentioned to kkmcan above, the 2009 crowds were not what I was expecting based on my 2007 and 2008 experiences. Who was to know that year would turn out to be the busiest holiday season in the previous decade? If I had kind of prepared myself or expected that it might be more crowded than usual, I think I would have dealt with it better. But I didn't expect nor did I prepare, and I was really kind of thrown for a loop. It was hard to get much of anything done. Plus, I simply didn't have enough time to wait out the crowds and try to do things later. Also, I didn't have the patience for it.

If I were to go to DLR during a really, really, busy time (including another New Year's Eve trip, or the day after Christmas or something like that), I would stay for as many days as I could possibly manage to have more chances to get things done, and/or I would just try to get in the zone and expect big crowds. Then, if the reality turned out to be better than what I expected, it would be a delightful surprise!

For me, the advantage of a package is that I get 6 months interest-free financing with the Disney Visa card, plus I can make payments online and I can get the interest-free financing on each payment.

siskaren --

Well, I guess that's something to consider! That only works with packages and not with a room-only reservation?

I just personally find the room-only bookings to be less complicated and a little more flexible in terms of being able to make changes or cancel all the way up to 5 days before a trip, as well as not having to pay the bulk of the bill until arrival if I need to wait that long. That is worth it to me.

(By the way -- next month the Dreyer's peppermint ice cream should be hitting the shelves in my store! Looks out for the Edy's in your area!)
 

I am crossing my fingers for you that nothing messes up your trip, especially since the tickets have been purchased! Yikes!

So does this all now rest on whether or not the trainee is put on another shift or can work your shift? Is there anyone else outside of the 3 employees going to training who could possibly step in and save the day, covering your shift?

I will have to make sure both of the people in training classes have their shifts covered plus get MY shift covered by other co-workers who work the other side of the week. I'm hoping the lure of big $ right before Christmas will be enough. I could try to change the the week after, but that is getting even closer to Christmas and the flights will be more expensive, the room too (we locked in a really good rate at the Anabella).

It is frustrating bc we decided on this trip after we'd already signed up for our annual 2013 vacation; everyone was saying "just comp it off, it'll get covered no problem even if trainee doesn't work out" so I did, now this happens. And it isn't training classes that the other people requested, they are being sent by our supervisors even though I put in the time-off request before all these trainings became available/scheduled. It is just so stressful! I've looked forward to visiting DL and Christmas for years and this is the first time it has seemed posssible with my husband's work schedule, I will be heart-broken and crushed if it doesn't happen. not to mention out some $$ (I would absorb my parent's financial loss for the vacation if we have to cancel).
 
I will have to make sure both of the people in training classes have their shifts covered plus get MY shift covered by other co-workers who work the other side of the week. I'm hoping the lure of big $ right before Christmas will be enough. I could try to change the the week after, but that is getting even closer to Christmas and the flights will be more expensive, the room too (we locked in a really good rate at the Anabella).

It is frustrating bc we decided on this trip after we'd already signed up for our annual 2013 vacation; everyone was saying "just comp it off, it'll get covered no problem even if trainee doesn't work out" so I did, now this happens. And it isn't training classes that the other people requested, they are being sent by our supervisors even though I put in the time-off request before all these trainings became available/scheduled. It is just so stressful! I've looked forward to visiting DL and Christmas for years and this is the first time it has seemed posssible with my husband's work schedule, I will be heart-broken and crushed if it doesn't happen. not to mention out some $$ (I would absorb my parent's financial loss for the vacation if we have to cancel).

egritz --

The lure of big money right before Christmas is a powerful thing! Hopefully that will do the trick, but the fact that you have to get your shift covered and the training people's shifts covered is daunting. I really, really, really hope it works out.:goodvibes:goodvibes

That's the worst, too -- when you plan in advance and specifically try to cover every angle to make sure the trip can work with everyone's schedules and so forth, only to have something like this come up...which almost seems to negate a lot of your efforts in trying to avoid scheduling issues in the first place!

And losing out on money is nothing to sneeze at either. It would be a double whammy if it happened that way -- not getting to take the trip and losing money!

I've never been in that situation where I've had to get someone to cover a shift or fill in for me so I could go on a trip. Fortunately I've never worked in an office where that sort of procedure was required. I've worked in offices or for employers where I've just said, "I need to take X, Y and Z dates off" in the past and that was that.

One supervisor did try to lure me into staying in the office and working -- it was 1 day before I was about to head off to DLR to stay at the GCH for a holiday trip. He offered extra money if I stayed. It was too late, though. That was a year I had booked with a package and I couldn't cancel it at the last minute without losing money. They wouldn't have paid me enough extra money to make up for what I would have been losing by cancelling, so I just said "No. I can't work."

But my friends through the years have all had to go through that "getting someone to cover" ordeal, and from what they explain it sometimes works seamlessly, but when you get to a time like the holiday season it can be very tricky to pull off.
 
We were at DLR last year for those dates and we are going back again this year at the same time. It was definitely crowded for the weekend. If you can get away a day or two earlier, it would be better. That is what we are going to do. Those will be our ride days. Then, on the weekend, when it is crowded, we will take our holiday tour, enjoy the decorations, do the restaurants, and see the shows. In short, we will soak up the atmosphere without worrying about ride lines. Last year, they had early entry at both parks every day at 7 AM. We were at the gates around 6:45. That made doing the rides so easy. I hope it works out for you. I loved being at Disney for the holidays and can't wait to go back.
 
siskaren --

Well, I guess that's something to consider! That only works with packages and not with a room-only reservation?

I just personally find the room-only bookings to be less complicated and a little more flexible in terms of being able to make changes or cancel all the way up to 5 days before a trip, as well as not having to pay the bulk of the bill until arrival if I need to wait that long. That is worth it to me.

(By the way -- next month the Dreyer's peppermint ice cream should be hitting the shelves in my store! Looks out for the Edy's in your area!)

Correct, packages only.

I like having the ability to spread out the payments (I understand that you can make payments for room-only reservations by phone, but I prefer doing it online), and I like having the trip paid off before I get there. (Well, paid off in the sense that all the payments have been made to my Disney Visa. Like I said, I like to take advantage of the interest-free financing. ;))

I am looking forward to that (as well as other peppermint-flavored things ;)), but I'm also looking forward to Cranberry Splash Diet Sierra Mist, which hit the shelves last year in mid-September.
 
Trying not to freak out. Our vacation plans were hinged on me not needing to get coverage at work. There was no one scheduled off for the week we are going. We have a trainee who is due to be done training by then & was supposed to come to my shift which would have meant that I could have the time off without needing to get my shift hours covered. Well, now not only is she possibly being put to another shift, but 2 of the other 3 employees on my shift are being sent to training that week! Eek! The flight i nothing to worry about financially (used rapid rewards) but our park tickets have already been purchased. Ugh! Keeping my fingers crossed and trying not to think bad thoughts.

Eek is right! I'll be thinking happy thoughts that it will all work out for you and this trip! We have a schedule book at work and once your name is in that book, it's golden. As a matter of fact, I think I will put in for another short vacation for next May. Since we'll be getting APs for this trip (it's a 10 day trip), I'll want to get some good use out of that ;) Hubby will most likely be doing some training in Anaheim for a company that makes one of the chemistry analyzers that he works on so I hope to sneak along with him on that little excursion too. Heck, we may see Disneyland 3 times within a calendar year....and to think I've lived 51 years having never been there before :laughing:

Here are some of my pics of the HMH.

Great pics, Laurie. I'm glad you posted on here as I've always enjoyed your pictures (as well as everyone else's on here). I'm still reading your trip report with your son and his fiance (I'm guessing that's "wife" now)?

I have a question to anyone who has stayed at PPH and Disneyland Hotel. Which do you prefer and why? I'm sure there are threads on the boards that will cover this but I'm guessing since we're talking about the holiday season I wanted to pose this question here. I know there is the shortcut through the Grand Californian but even with that shortcut is PPH further from the parks than Disneyland Hotel? We will have 10 days (the first two of which will NOT be spent in the parks as they are blocked out for APs) We may be spending one of those days at Catalina (:wink: Sherry) but that leaves us an evening to do nothing but hang around the hotel. I know there are 3 pools at DH and only 1 at PPH and the dining is more plentiful at DH too. Of course, PPH is a little easier on the pocketbook.

I guess I just wanted some viewpoints here. I would love to stay at GCH but there is no way, short of wining the lottery, that we could swing that one for such a long stay.

Also, does everyone think the Candlelight Ceremony will be handled in the same manner as 2011? We will be there for the weekend it's taking place and we plan on getting APs but I'm not sure how quick we'll be getting those. How did they go about making tickets available then? The Candlelight Processional at Epcot last year was a highlight of my trip. So very beautiful and awe-inspiring......had some water leak out of my eyes for that one :goodvibes
 
Great pics, Laurie. I'm glad you posted on here as I've always enjoyed your pictures (as well as everyone else's on here). I'm still reading your trip report with your son and his fiance (I'm guessing that's "wife" now)?

Thank you......I really need to finish that report up!

The wedding is Sept. 7th.......so almost here!

I love PPH......but I'm affected by the winter blues (living in the very wet Willamette Valley in Oregon). I love the bright rooms with light colored woods. It makes me happy! I also enjoy the "beach" feel. The walk thru the Grand is shorter than the walk thru DTD from the DLH. The monorail is nice but not always a reliable way to get into DL.

Love, love, love the Christmas tree at the PPH! Walking thru the GCH you're able to gawk on that tree every time you pass thru.

That's my opinion on the matter........I'm sure others will pipe in with opposing and even agreeing. Good luck in your planning!
 
I shall quote/re-post my recap of what we know of this year's seasonal details, below, for anyone just tuning in for the first time today:


For any of the newcomers to the thread, who have perhaps not had a chance to skim the previous pages...

It's time to momentarily interrupt our Theme Week Countdown to recap what we know about the Holiday 2013 season, much of which has been discussed in this thread, thus far.

You will notice that I added in a Haunted Mansion Holiday paragraph. It was something that PHXscuba happened to mention yesterday (she read about it in the Disney Rewards/Visa newsletter). After reading my copy of the newsletter I later found the PDF file online, for anyone who wants to read it.



1. Official: According to the most recent AP Backstage Pass newsletter/magazine and the Disney Parks Blog, the holiday season is going to officially begin on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 (the end date is Monday, January 6, 2014). As this came from two official Disney sources we have to assume it is true, although the same BP newsletter was recently incorrect about the start date of the MHP, and Disneyland News recently claimed that the season begins on 11/15, so...who knows? In any event, most likely some of the in-park holiday merriment will be going on a few days before 11/12 (unofficially!);



2. Official (but maybe not completely set in stone?): According to an official internal letter that Disney sent out to various choir directors and participants of the Candlelight Ceremony a few months ago, the Ceremony will take place on Sat., 12/7 and Sun., 12/8 in Town Square this year. No mention was made in the letter of any other Ceremony dates, but the letter recipients were told that they would get more details in August. Rumors include: 1)That more Ceremony dates will be added, possibly in DCA; 2)That the new management doesn't want to have any more than 2 nights of the Ceremony; 3)That the Ceremony is being scaled back to 2 nights so that a possible Christmas party in DL may take place over multiple nights; and 4)That the Ceremony of last year (20 nights) prevented Main Street businesses from earning revenue and that's why only 2 nights this year;



3. Official! (announced by the Disney Parks Blog and Disneyland News): An all-holiday World of Color (called World of Color -- Winter Dreams) is headed our way, with a start date of Friday, 11/15/13. Previous rumors had indicated that this Yuletide version of WoC would begin on 11/8. There are always chances for a soft opening of Winter Dreams when the holiday season begins on 11/12 (pending further notice);



4. Official (from the Disney Rewards Visa Fall 2013 Newsletter/booklet, in an article entitled "13 Years of Delightful Frights"): Haunted Mansion Holiday's 13th year (it opened in 2001) will be recognized with new effects and surprises!

Here is the PDF file of the newsletter: http://disneyrewards.com/pdf/newsletteraug13.pdf

In case you cannot open that file, the highlights are:

  • While little surprises are added to HMH every year, this year is "one of the biggest refreshes" Disney has ever created;
  • There will be a new animation effect in the Stretching Portrait Gallery, involving shattered stained glass windows and a peek-a-BOO appearance by master of scaremonies, Jack Skellington;
  • This year's gingerbread house in the dining/ballroom focuses on HMH's 13 years of delightfully frightful fun;
  • Groups of 13 holiday surprises from skulls and snappy plants to slinky ribbons have been added in every room. Look sharp to find them all; and
  • A specially designed HMH pin and a decorate-it-yourself Zombie cookie kit will be available at the Nightmare Before Christmas merchandise cart, outside the Mansion.



5. Rumor - Very Unlikely for 2013 (mostly from MiceChat): A possible Christmas Party. Supposedly the all-Holiday WoC will provide the "alternative" holiday entertainment to those who do not wish to attend a hard ticket Christmas party in Disneyland. Yes, the rumor mill seemed to be buzzing with whispers of a Christmas party coming our way this year, which would supposedly take the longstanding Christmas Fantasy Parade, Believe in Holiday Magic Fireworks and snowfall on Main Street and make them party exclusives. We have no proof that this will happen in 2013 and at this point it is highly unlikely that it will happen, though I think that most of us believe that a Christmas party of some sort is inevitable -- probably in 2014 or 2015.

I think that IF a major, multi-night Christmas party (that is going to change the face of the existing seasonal entertainment) is coming, we would hear about it (officially, from Disney) by sometime this month -- maybe even late August. They could be so bold as to wait until September, but that would just be silly...and annoying.

It is quite possible that Disney will run the holiday WoC this year and gauge how popular it is or is not with the crowds. Then, if it is a success, they could either hold a party in DCA next year and make WoC the party exclusive, or they could create a party in DL and make the WoC in DCA the alternative choice.

I tend to feel that a party in Disneyland would have to have some new 'material,' as it were, so as not to enrage the holiday visitors who have been going to the parks in November and December for years and years, and who have come to expect to see the holiday fireworks and parade as part of the regular seasonal entertainment. I think Disney will be making a big mistake if they try to take an almost 20-year old parade and an almost 13-year-old fireworks show and make people suddenly pay extra to see them. It would be much more effective if they put together an all-new holiday parade and an all-new holiday fireworks show for the party. That would work for existing holiday visitors and new visitors alike!; and



6. Speculation (mainly by me!:rotfl2:): Limited Time Magic. How and where is this year-long celebration going to fit in to the holiday season, and what will be included in it? So far we know of LTM events happening up to 9/13 -- the Unleash the Villains/13th Hour event at the start of the Halloween Time season. I think that a LTM event of some kind -- maybe more than one -- will have to be included somewhere in the holiday season. As to when -- who knows? Disney could run a LTM holiday event during a week that is typically less crowded to lure guests in -- like early November or the week immediately after Thanksgiving weekend ends -- or they could start it at the very beginning of the season to kick it off. I don't think a LTM event would take place during Christmas week or New Year's week, as those times are busy enough.

Could it be that Limited Time Magic may somehow be tied in with a sort of 'mini-party' event? Maybe a short-run Christmas party type of thing that just takes place on a few nights during one week, maximum, and then ends quickly could be a good way to test the waters and see how popular the idea of a Christmas party is or is not, for future reference.:idea:

If there is just a little mini-Limited Time Magic thing happening, Disney could wait even longer to let us know about it...though that would be silly too!:rotfl2:



:santa::santa::santa:


Now we sit, patiently, and wait for more news and rumors to trickle in!:hyper:

The current Theme Week Countdown will help to pass the time in between bits of info/news/rumors/discussion over the next few months!!:cool1:


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I have a question to anyone who has stayed at PPH and Disneyland Hotel. Which do you prefer and why? I'm sure there are threads on the boards that will cover this but I'm guessing since we're talking about the holiday season I wanted to pose this question here. I know there is the shortcut through the Grand Californian but even with that shortcut is PPH further from the parks than Disneyland Hotel? We will have 10 days (the first two of which will NOT be spent in the parks as they are blocked out for APs) We may be spending one of those days at Catalina (:wink: Sherry) but that leaves us an evening to do nothing but hang around the hotel. I know there are 3 pools at DH and only 1 at PPH and the dining is more plentiful at DH too. Of course, PPH is a little easier on the pocketbook.

I guess I just wanted some viewpoints here. I would love to stay at GCH but there is no way, short of wining the lottery, that we could swing that one for such a long stay.

Also, does everyone think the Candlelight Ceremony will be handled in the same manner as 2011? We will be there for the weekend it's taking place and we plan on getting APs but I'm not sure how quick we'll be getting those. How did they go about making tickets available then? The Candlelight Processional at Epcot last year was a highlight of my trip. So very beautiful and awe-inspiring......had some water leak out of my eyes for that one :goodvibes

Kathy --

1. First of all -- Catalina. Did you see that I went there again just a few weeks ago? I posted a total of 5 teaser photos in my Catalina TR over in the California/The West section (the same one to which you are already subscribed). If I do an actual TR for that it will be called something like "Woman in Golf Cart On the Loose" or "Wild Woman in Golf Cart Gone Mad." Something along those lines.

I was holding off on doing the Catalina TR for the recent trip because I thought I was going to be doing a blog about it (still waiting to hear details about that:rolleyes1). I brought back 9 million brochures and booklets so I have all of my reference material and photos ready!



2. Next -- about the Candlelight Ceremony. Tears were running down my cheeks during the part in which the guy comes out to sing "Silent Night" in Italian. Just exquisite! So I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who was getting choked up!

Yes -- I think the Candlelight Ceremony will go back to a pre-2012 set-up this year. I have a feeling that since the Ceremony has been cut way back from 20 nights to only 2 nights, it will resume its more "exclusive" status...which means Disney will probably not make any tickets available to it for regular visitors, but they will do their typical "invitation only" thing that they did pre-2012. That will mean that only certain invited guests will be able to sit in the chairs and see the shows on 12/7 and 12/8.

BUT the good news is that everyone else (the general public in the park) can stand and watch the show. People have been doing that for decades. You simply find a spot on the perimeter of Town Square to stand and watch.

I have a feeling that the Ceremony will once again be expanded to more nights in future years -- so that Disney can sell dinner packages. But when they do the 2 invite-only evenings, they do not offer the dinner packages.



3. Hotels. As for the PPH vs. DLH -- I have been staying at the PPH since 2000. A long time. Prior to the PPH even entering the scene I stayed at the DLH all the time. I loved the DLH in its old version. I couldn't imagine ever not staying there, but the PPH had a more appealing price tag at that point. Over the years I got used to the PPH and now I really like it.

I have also stayed at the GCH a couple of times over the years as well. When you get a room that is close to the elevators at the GCH, the walk to and from the parks is a breeze. So short. When you end up in a room that is down some never-ending hallway, the walk is not so short! (But the DTD view rooms are great in terms of views alone.)

I have not stayed at the remodeled DLH, but I have seen the inside of the rooms. The DLH seems to have a lot of floor space and it has all kinds of nice little Disney touches, such as light-up headboards and various Mickey-ish things. Plus, at its core the DLH is a more resort-ish hotel. As I said, pre-2000 I was all about the DLH and I adored staying there.

The PPH is very, very basic. It does not have the grounds to explore like the GCH and DLH have. It has the cute surf/sand/beach theme to it, which is fun. As Laurie mentioned, it is bright and cheery. The Christmas tree is gorgeous in person (which you have seen in Laurie's TR as well as in the photos from the recent Christmas Tree/Wreath Theme Week last week),much more so than in photos. But it suits my needs.

The walk from the PPH is not far at all. Some people say that the walk from the DLH to the parks is longer -- or feels longer. Once you get the lay of the land and see where you are going, you will see that the walk across the street, through the GCH and on to the parks, is very pleasant.

What I would suggest is that on your free night, spend some time in the GCH lobby and enjoy Santa, the Dickens carolers who perform by the tree, the guitarist, the pianist, etc. Just find a seat in one of the deceptively comfy chairs and enjoy the holiday atmosphere with a beverage or snack in hand. The Hearthstone Lounge is also right off of the lobby. Downtown Disney is right outside. There are lots of places to spend that evening outside of the actual parks! You can easily walk from one hotel to the other, to eat at the restaurants or shop.

So I would say that I like all 3 of the hotels for different reasons, but I am comfortable with the PPH for my needs. I think that a lot of people would prefer the DLH or the GCH (the GCH rooms are small and dark, by the way), to be honest, but for me the PPH is fine.



Thank you......I really need to finish that report up!

...That's my opinion on the matter........I'm sure others will pipe in with opposing and even agreeing. Good luck in your planning!


Laurie --

I piped in...and I agree! PPH works for me. I enjoyed the DLH in its heyday (I don't think that now is its heyday), but I don't need to stay there. I like staying at the PPH and I have even come to look forward to and enjoy the walk from the PPH to the parks.

By the way, I have referred to your last holiday trip quite often when talking about either the holiday tour or the candy canes -- your TR and danimaroo's are the ones I mention the most in regards to the candy canes, especially. You and tksbaskets are my go-tos for the holiday tour referrals!
 
2. Next -- about the Candlelight Ceremony. Tears were running down my cheeks during the part in which the guy comes out to sing "Silent Night" in Italian. Just exquisite! So I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who was getting choked up!

At the Candlelight Processional at Epcot last year they sang "Silent Night" in its original German language. I am of German origin. I had held it together up to this point, but when I heard "Silent Night" in German, I was done for.

Corinna
 
At the Candlelight Processional at Epcot last year they sang "Silent Night" in its original German language. I am of German origin. I had held it together up to this point, but when I heard "Silent Night" in German, I was done for.

Corinna

Corinna --

Was it German? It could be that the young man who sang it at our show was singing German, but it didn't sound like German at all. I was asking people what language it was at first because it didn't quite sound like Italian, either. No one seemed quite sure, and then someone in the group I was sitting with established that it was Italian.

Now I'm not so sure!:rotfl2: Whatever language it was, it was gorgeous, we were all getting weepy and the guy who sang it had a beautiful voice!
 
Corinna --

Was it German? It could be that the young man who sang it at our show was singing German, but it didn't sound like German at all. I was asking people what language it was at first because it didn't quite sound like Italian, either. No one seemed quite sure, and then someone in the group I was sitting with established that it was Italian.

Now I'm not so sure!:rotfl2: Whatever language it was, it was gorgeous, we were all getting weepy and the guy who sang it had a beautiful voice!

The original language for "Silent Night" is German. It was written by a priest in Austria. The story is that on Christmas Eve 1818, the organ in a small village in Austria broke down and the priest handed a poem that he had written to the organist and asked him if he could create a melody for this to plat on his guitar. The song was performed for the first time at the Christmas Eve service.

Here is a video from the performance at Epcot:

http://youtu.be/K5zZebpaVH8

Corinna
 
The original language for "Silent Night" is German. It was written by a priest in Austria. The story is that on Christmas Eve 1818, the organ in a small village in Austria broke down and the priest handed a poem that he had written to the organist and asked him if he could create a melody for this to plat on his guitar. The song was performed for the first time at the Christmas Eve service.

Here is a video from the performance at Epcot:

http://youtu.be/K5zZebpaVH8

Corinna

Corinna --

I had a very vague idea of the origins of "Silent Night" -- I remember reading that it has heavy roots in Austria (I used song lyrics from many Christmas songs in my last 2 holiday TRs here on the DIS, so as I was searching the Web for lyrics I came across the history of a few songs).

But...our Candlelight Ceremony did not feature the German version of "Silent Night"! I watched the video you linked above, and I knew instantly it was not the same version! Also, your Epcot version of Candlelight seems to be more about many voices singing together, while our Disneyland version let the soloist and guitarist shine during "Silent Night."

Our "Silent Night" at DL -- and it was not Italian either, but it was the Spanish version, as I have just found out -- was more intimate, from what I can tell by watching the Epcot video. It was very moving. The young man and the guitar player came out and everything quieted down several notches. The young man's voice was stirring -- especially in person. He sang "Noche de Paz," and then got to a point where he asked the weepy audience members to sing along, in English. Then the choir began singing and the young soloist joined in again, and then he quietly finished it off at the end.

I didn't quite think it was Spanish either when I saw the Ceremony in person twice last year. The language didn't sound exactly like Spanish in some parts, nor did it sound completely like Italian. And I recall hearing the "noche" sung in the song, which I know is Spanish, and yet it still didn't completely sound like the whole song was sung in Spanish in person!:rotfl2:

I'm glad I found this YouTube video from last year to clear it all up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3NJjmkLtHM

I was there on the Lou Diamond Phillips nights, but the above video features John Stamos' 2012 narration, which I'm sure no one will mind!

In any case, I got chills again while watching both your Epcot version of the song and my Disneyland version of the song! The videos don't do the performances justice, but watching the Disneyland version brings me back to last year and how moving and special a performance it was!
 
Corinna --

I had a very vague idea of the origins of "Silent Night" -- I remember reading that it has heavy roots in Austria (I used song lyrics from many Christmas songs in my last 2 holiday TRs here on the DIS, so as I was searching the Web for lyrics I came across the history of a few songs).

But...our Candlelight Ceremony did not feature the German version of "Silent Night"! I watched the video you linked above, and I knew instantly it was not the same version! Also, your Epcot version of Candlelight seems to be more about many voices singing together, while our Disneyland version let the soloist and guitarist shine during "Silent Night."

Our "Silent Night" at DL -- and it was not Italian either, but it was the Spanish version, as I have just found out -- was more intimate, from what I can tell by watching the Epcot video. It was very moving. The young man and the guitar player came out and everything quieted down several notches. The young man's voice was stirring -- especially in person. He sang "Noche de Paz," and then got to a point where he asked the weepy audience members to sing along, in English. Then the choir began singing and the young soloist joined in again, and then he quietly finished it off at the end.

I didn't quite think it was Spanish either when I saw the Ceremony in person twice last year. The language didn't sound exactly like Spanish in some parts, nor did it sound completely like Italian. And I recall hearing the "noche" sung in the song, which I know is Spanish, and yet it still didn't completely sound like the whole song was sung in Spanish in person!:rotfl2:

I'm glad I found this YouTube video from last year to clear it all up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3NJjmkLtHM

I was there on the Lou Diamond Phillips nights, but the above video features John Stamos' 2012 narration, which I'm sure no one will mind!

In any case, I got chills again while watching both your Epcot version of the song and my Disneyland version of the song! The videos don't do the performances justice, but watching the Disneyland version brings me back to last year and how moving and special a performance it was!

I have to listen to this tomorrow. DH is an absolute Scrooge and he will think I have gone completely crazy when I listen to Christmas carols in August. This sounds truly magical.

Corinna
 
Sherry, Thank you for posting the link to "Silent Night"--it is absolutely beautiful, and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and feelings about your experience!
 
He's going to Missouri S & T in Rolla. It's about 3 1/2 hours from KC. Our older son is a Junior this year at Rockhurst here in KC. It sounds like your son is a very busy guy. I bet you really don't see him any more than a kid who is hours from home. And $800 in books? :faint: I was worried that might be the case for my son at Rolla taking Chemistry, Calculus and Econ. But so far it was only the $250 Chemistry book that made us :faint: The Econ book was a $37 download and Calculus is "only" supposed to be $125 (It's on backorder).

I knew when we decided on DLR this year that we would be paying more for a shorter trip. I accepted that. But I also naively thought that with the addition of photos to multi-day tickets that DLR would go back to offering more than a 5 day ticket. So when the new ticket pricing came out and not only did they not add a longer ticket, but the stories of people being able to add a 6th day dried up, I was disappointed. I was just finally adjusting to that when these closures were announced. It was sort of a 1-2 punch. Well, I guess 1-2-3 now that both mountains might be involved.

But I did chat with Katie last night (it might be just the 2 of us on this trip). She had been really disappointed in the SM announcement the night before, so I was hesitant to tell her about BTMRR. But we talked it through and decided we would go ahead regardless. We really just want to see the holiday decorations on the other coast. After doing WDW in December 4 of the last 5 years, we want Disney, but a little change of pace.

Janet as long as they don't close Haunted Mansion Holiday and IASM Holiday overlay it will be worth your travels. There are so many little Disneyland moments to be had at Christmas. And so many big things like Billy Hill and the Hillbillies singing Christmas tunes, Carsland Christmas decorations, and a New World of Color to just name a few things. Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed for SM to stay open.

Are you a fan of Nightmare Before Christmas?
 
Janet as long as they don't close Haunted Mansion Holiday and IASM Holiday overlay it will be worth your travels. There are so many little Disneyland moments to be had at Christmas. And so many big things like Billy Hill and the Hillbillies singing Christmas tunes, Carsland Christmas decorations, and a New World of Color to just name a few things. Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed for SM to stay open.

Are you a fan of Nightmare Before Christmas?

I don't know why I'm just thinking about this now, but does WDW not do any overlays like DL does?
 
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