Disney Genie announcement

[wisblue]

You can only hold ONE G+ reservation at a time correct (I am not including the paid attractions. Just the standard G+ attractions)? I'm just wondering if you book an attraction with a 4pm return window but you booked it at 9am, can you book another attraction at 11am (2 hours later).

Also...find me the idiot who named this program and it's components. I would like to have a word...

I thought someone has already said that you can hold more than one at a time.

For example, if at 10 AM you select a LL for Test Track with a 2 PM return, at noon you can make another LL selection.

 

[MJJME]

The related question is whether I can select an evening time for Remy at 7AM if I have a park reservation at MK and a hopper ticket.

yes

 

[Jennasis]

Not correct. If you make one at 7am and it's return time is further away than 2 hours after park opening you can make another 2 hours after the park opens and have more than 1.

once park is open you can make one every 2hours OR after you use one.

example:
7 am I book one for 12pm. Park opened at 9.
So at 11 I can book another one and still keep
My one for noon so now I have 2.

Thanks...so even though I may not NEED a G+ at rope drop I may have to book one and use it just to keep my "rolling G+" clock going all day. Like old school FP?

 

[katyringo]

Not correct. If you make one at 7am and it's return time is further away than 2 hours after park opening you can make another 2 hours after the park opens and have more than 1.

once park is open you can make one every 2hours OR after you use one.

example:
7 am I book one for 12pm. Park opened at 9.
So at 11 I can book another one and still keep
My one for noon so now I have 2.

further it seems the cool off period once park is open is 2 hours.

so another scenario is I come to the park and I book one for 3pm. It's currently 930- so now I can make another at 1130am. I get a return time for 4pM when I book at 1130. I can now make another selection at 130...at 130 I get a selection for 6pm. I now have passes booked from 3,4 and 6pm. All stacked.

 

[AMartin767]

I’ve always used Touring Plans wait times and found them to be much more accurate that Disney’s inflated posted wait times. I was hoping Disney might dial these in so they are more accurate but that does not appear to be the case. Example- Splash Mtn has a posted Disney time of 45 min verses TP actual time of 23 minutes. This makes a difference if I’m doing standby or LL and having to flip back and forth between the apps to determine the correct wait time verses when I can grab a LL for it is a pain. Disney has got to do better with these posted wait times.

I don't see them changing this. It's only to Disney's advantage to inflate wait times for two reasons:

1 - It always feels better to get in a stand-by line and have the actual wait time be shorter
2 - The inflated times play into pushing the customer into spending additional $$ on G+ and/or ILL even if it may not actually be needed.

 

[OhDannyBoy]

Y'all.

realize some may not agree with me and that's fine. But I'm not even in the park today and I'm enjoying this looking at fastpasses and strategy and talking about it. It feels like the before times. Idk. It's not a perfect system but so far I am a general fan..

I'm with you. At least we can start the discussions of best strategies and plans again instead of wild speculation.

If availability stays about what it has been today, I'm ok with G+. Some of the big rides are tough with availability but that's kind of how it's always been. It'll work for my group as I'm going to try and use it for stuff with waits longer than 30 minutes. Past 30 minutes and my little ones start getting antsy. The stuff that's 90 minutes+ and no availability was stuff we can't ride anyways.

I’ve always used Touring Plans wait times and found them to be much more accurate that Disney’s inflated posted wait times. I was hoping Disney might dial these in so they are more accurate but that does not appear to be the case. Example- Splash Mtn has a posted Disney time of 45 min verses TP actual time of 23 minutes. This makes a difference if I’m doing standby or LL and having to flip back and forth between the apps to determine the correct wait time verses when I can grab a LL for it is a pain. Disney has got to do better with these posted wait times.

Just figure Disney's time is likely inflated and go from there. If you wait 30 minutes and thought it would be 25 or vice versa, who cares? it's a guess-timation anyways. At least you are in the "know" and realize their times are inflated.

 

[MJJME]

Thanks...so even though I may not NEED a G+ at rope drop I may have to book one and use it just to keep my "rolling G+" clock going all day. Like old school FP?

Correct....this is basically paper FP.....cannot pick return time (which really stinks....i think they should make this a resort perk)

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

The related question is whether I can select an evening time for Remy at 7AM if I have a park reservation at MK and a hopper ticket.

If staying onsite, yes you can. But I have the same question for offsite. Can I make a Remy ILL$ when the first park opens? Or do I need to wait until Epcot opens? Or is it based on your reserved park's opening time?

 

[LSUfan4444]

Because at some point the return time for a popular ride will be several hours away from actual time and likely the last time you could get it for a particular ride.........

Lets say you book SDD for 11am and then your next one you got Smugglers run at 1:30pm....then you go to book ur nexst and its either ToT or RnR, both are the last window of the day..............Do you book one of those or do you book Star Tours, Indian Jones, Toy Story Mania?


If you do the lesser rides then the other 2 sell out before you can get your next ride

This is it...well said

Each day almost has to be looked at in a vacuum. There will be points where return windows are hours off and what do you do then...not ride anything via standby? Just sit at Picos Bill and load up on the nachos bar? What do you do when return times are gone for Splash because you were waiting an hour for Pirates that you passed up standby when it said 25 minutes.

 

[jodybird511]

I'm sure I missed this--having trouble keeping up with the thread today! For ILL$, has it been confirmed that you can only book ONE of your two attractions at 7am? Or can you book both right away?

 

[MJJME]

If staying onsite, yes you can. But I have the same question for offsite. Can I make a Remy ILL$ when the first park opens? Or do I need to wait until Epcot opens? Or is it based on your reserved park's opening time?

thats a good question

 

[katyringo]

I'm sure I missed this--having trouble keeping up with the thread today! For ILL$, has it been confirmed that you can only book ONE of your two attractions at 7am? Or can you book both right away?

You can book both. That has been confirmed.

 

[MaC410]

I thought someone has already said that you can hold more than one at a time.

For example, if at 10 AM you select a LL for Test Track with a 2 PM return, at noon you can make another LL selection.

This was my one big question about this new system. When I visited Disneyland we actually liked the maxpass plus system where you could have more than one fastpass at a time. My wife and I used it to make fastpasses for later in the day to come back to after a midday break. Obviously i'd rather the free fastpass system but if Genie+ will allow us to make another new fastpass 2 hours later some good stuff can be done with this new system.

 

[wisblue]

On the subject of using G+ in the early hours, there are some G+ attractions in every park that have significant lines in the first hour after official opening, especially at times that are busier than now and with Early Entry thrown in. Some that come right to mind are SDD, MFSR, Test Track, Safari, Jungle Cruise, etc.

I think getting a G+ for one of these attractions with an early return time and then getting your second G+ when you get off makes sense.

Do a few things standby during EE and right after 9 and then use that first G+. You’ll end up making your second G+ not long after others are making their first and should have a similar selection.

 

[AMartin767]

This is it...well said

Each day almost has to be looked at in a vacuum. There will be points where return windows are hours off and what do you do then...not ride anything via standby? Just sit at Picos Bill and load up on the nachos bar? What do you do when return times are gone for Splash because you were waiting an hour for Pirates that you passed up standby when it said 25 minutes.

Disney definitely wants you spending time (and more importantly $$) when you're not doing G+ or ILL cause that's where they make the most profit (i.e. Snacks, foods, drinks, shopping).

 

[JakeAZ]

I'm sure it's here somewhere, but there are so many new posts today.

What did ROTR price out at today before it sold out?

 

[Sunelis]

I'm sure it's here somewhere, but there are so many new posts today.

What did ROTR price out at today before it sold out?

15$

 

[LSUfan4444]

Disney definitely wants you spending time (and more importantly $$) when you're not doing G+ or ILL cause that's where they make the most profit (i.e. Snacks, foods, drinks, shopping).

Oh I agree there. They definitely want you spending money during that wait time.

I'm sure it's here somewhere, but there are so many new posts today.

What did ROTR price out at today before it sold out?

$15

 

[GoingSince1990]

Y'all.

realize some may not agree with me and that's fine. But I'm not even in the park today and I'm enjoying this looking at fastpasses and strategy and talking about it. It feels like the before times. Idk. It's not a perfect system but so far I am a general fan..

Yep, it's good to keep some perspective. It's not that long ago that all the parks were closed with no opening in sight, and we were all stuck at home worrying about being carted off to hospital and put on a ventilator. Back then the idea of going back to Disney at all regardless of what FP-type system they had in place was a joyful fantasy.

 

[Jrb1979]

I won't go round and round anymore. You won't change your mind and I don't want to try to make you do so.

If you only want to do everything once and never want to standby and your value is based on how many attractions you use it on and not how long you wait (whether in line or on a bench waiting for your return window) I'm sure you'll find a way to make it work out so you feel like you got your money's worth and thats all that is important. The more people who take your approach and book morning G+ the better it is for me anyway finding the times I want in the afternoon anyway.

I do get what you're saying. Book the ones you want for when the park is busy and use standby in the morning when waits are low.

For me I would book Peter Pan first as the wait is always long then after that book Big Thunder and hope it has an early return time. From there keep taking the next best return time. There is also lot of rides I don't bother riding so missing out on those wouldn't bother me.