Disney Genie announcement

[Micca]

I wonder if they are choosing to do this since they will somehow have to explain how this all works to guests who show up and know nothing about it. It is already a complicated 3 part system but then to have "surprise" people at check in with now you can spend extra $$ per day you knew nothing about.

Kinda like when they encourage you to buy the additional insurance at the rental car counter?

This will be a nightmare for CMs, and they already have a lot on their plate.

 

[Kmilos1024]

wouldn't the one ride only make the standby much more bearable? As someone who has no interest in forking over more money to cut lines, I am happy they are limiting it. This honestly would make me respect Disney more because they realize not everyone wants to pay to cut the line, yet they aren't penalizing those people for not buying it since the standby should be more manageable with the limit on rerides.

 

[shaqfor3]

I just hope they announce when it is starting soon. I have a tentative trip for November 2-9 and I want to know if I should count on this or not.

I already have Hopper, so if they limit rides to 1 per day, I may still get it and hopp to another park and keep using it (assuming I can, that nowdays you never know).

Looking at lines right now (longest line in all WDW is Haunted Mansion with 60 minutes, RotR is at 55 min, Slinky and 7DMT 40 minutes... I wonder if I should be rooting for LL to be alive after my trip and not before lol.

 

[disneyfan123]

wouldn't the one ride only make the standby much more bearable? As someone who has no interest in forking over more money to cut lines, I am happy they are limiting it. This honestly would make me respect Disney more because they realize not everyone wants to pay to cut the line, yet they aren't penalizing those people for not buying it since the standby should be more manageable with the limit on rerides.

I’m hoping for this too. While I loved FP/FP+, if I’m going to be spending more time in stand-by queues, hopefully they move quickly. If there are few people using the LL, then that is beneficial. I have considered purchasing Genie+ for a few days (mostly for MK, maybe for HS), but this makes it less likely I will do that now, especially as one of my children qualify for DAS.

This announcement makes me really question who would buy it at all?

 

[TiggerBouncy]

With regards to the Genie+ once per ride per day, a few things to consider . . . .
1. Whilst this is been reported on a few fan sites, was it the same cast member that they all spoke to or did this come from multiple cast members at the preview?
2. Did the cast member(s) understand the question?
3. Did those that reported on this correctly interpret the answer?
4. Was the right question asked or was it asked clearly?
5. Was this info first hand, ie, did they ALL actually hear it from the cast member or someone else who spoke to a cast member and passed on the “info”.
6. Did everyone just get their wires crossed and confuse Genie+ and IA$, exactly as a very well known Disneyland vlogger did on his podcast today

Maybe, maybe not. Let’s hope it was a mistake, a misunderstanding or can be, as suggested, changed.

I am hoping you are correct. I was in the crowd looking forward to Genie+. But this would be a deal breaker. MAYBE the CM thought they were being asked if you could book multiple rides at the same time which we know you can't.

Has there been an official word?

And WHEN already? I was SURE it would have been out by Oct 1st! I'm there in a week.

 

[Disturbia]

Lines don’t look bad at all today and it’s one of the sold out days. We waited 45 mins for POC and 60 for Jungle Cruise in June and kids were done; we ate at Pecos bill and half our party cancelled BOG reservations and just stayed back. Makes me feel better and hopeful we can manage standby for our upcoming trip (in 4 weeks). Epcot opens at 10 so boarding groups should open at 9am for that park (They need to stagger BGs to not overload the system).

 

[ZellyB]

I really only saw G+ being worthwhile at MK and DHS for us but without a re-ride option, I'm not sure the value would be there for me at even those parks. And while I understand in theory this would make standby better, having been there in February with no FP at all, I was really unhappy with the length of standby lines. I'll wait until we hear this from a direct source, but certainly changes my perspective about the value of G+

 

[Kbrb]

This will help the standby lines not having a stream of people bypassing it repeatedly. Whole families booking repeated rides in tsm would cause huge standbys

It also confirms it’s not getting used at AK and probably Epcot for me

Of course they can always introduce Disneygenie ++.

 

[Jrb1979]

With regards to the Genie+ once per ride per day, a few things to consider . . . .
1. Whilst this is been reported on a few fan sites, was it the same cast member that they all spoke to or did this come from multiple cast members at the preview?
2. Did the cast member(s) understand the question?
3. Did those that reported on this correctly interpret the answer?
4. Was the right question asked or was it asked clearly?
5. Was this info first hand, ie, did they ALL actually hear it from the cast member or someone else who spoke to a cast member and passed on the “info”.
6. Did everyone just get their wires crossed and confuse Genie+ and IA$, exactly as a very well known Disneyland vlogger did on his podcast today

Maybe, maybe not. Let’s hope it was a mistake, a misunderstanding or can be, as suggested, changed.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1443663711235985414

This says otherwise. It may be changed but Disney also did say the price is an introductory one.

 

[emonade8]

This is mine as well and I'm also penning a handwritten letter. I've been AP holder for 16+ years and I am not renewing. While I LOVE WDW and feel very safe there as an often solo female traveler, I'm done. AP prices soaring (now over $1000 for renew), EMH ONLY for deluxe resort guests, charging from the airport transportation and NOW (tada!) TWO more ways for you to PAY MORE each and every day!! And damn if I want to be glued to my cell phone on vacation. So looks like Universal, here I come!

 

[mickeyluv'r]

I arrive 10/30... I remember being there when they started FP+, a few weeks in. And honestly I didn't mind being the guinea pig because it seemed to be the case that only a handful of people knew about it, so it worked pretty decent. If this is the same case (where it's not widely known in the early stages) then maybe I wouldn't mind being the guinea pig.

I was at WDW when FP+ was new, not first day new, but still quite new, and I thought it was a hot mess. The only thing that was helpful was that I knew about it in advance, so we were lucky enough to have picked our 3 FP. Back then that was it, just 3, no #4.

If you were in the parks, and you didn't have your FP, your only option was to wait in a very long line. The CM's had a rough job, and little ability to answer questions.

I momentarily thought about changing one of our FP, but then we saw the long lines, and thought better of it.

I felt bad for all the people that had to wait in the long kiosk lines that visit. I mean, normally I don't pay all that much attention to strangers, but the shared frustration we saw all over MK that trip was very palpable.

I do suspect though, not only will man not know about it initially, but even many who do might not opt to buy it. Ther could be many who want to wait and see.

 

[fabfemmeboy]

wouldn't the one ride only make the standby much more bearable? As someone who has no interest in forking over more money to cut lines, I am happy they are limiting it. This honestly would make me respect Disney more because they realize not everyone wants to pay to cut the line, yet they aren't penalizing those people for not buying it since the standby should be more manageable with the limit on rerides.

I agree with the impact. I think the issue people have with it is that it's $15 per person per day, which is already steep on top of how pricey Disney tickets are, you have to pay extra for more popular rides, AND it only gets you one 'faster' line per ride per day when many people like to ride the same few rides multiple times. Combined with how few rides there are in some of the parks, it feels like it doesn't do anything to alleviate the problem people wanted fixed: long standby lines. Sure, right now standby lines are fine (good, even!), but this summer it was taking hours to ride even small things. Genie+, though an added expense, was theoretically going to help with that...and it doesn't. So it's an added expense that doesn't give people what they thought/hoped it would be.

Personally, I think the solution is not to buy the darn thing, thereby not wasting money AND sticking it to Cheapek, but everyone's free to do as they like.

 

[sjmac42]

This says otherwise. It may be changed but Disney also did say the price is an introductory one.

It does say otherwise but it doesn’t show otherwise and isn’t an official Disney announcement. That’s the point of my earlier post, this is just a few vloggers reporting what they saw at a preview low on detail (nothing we didn’t know already) and what they maybe heard from a cast member.

 

[Jrb1979]

It does say otherwise but it doesn’t show otherwise and isn’t an official Disney announcement. That’s the point of my earlier post, this is just a few vloggers reporting what they have heard, maybe from a cast member, maybe from another vlogger, who knows.

It sort of is an official announcement. She got a preview of Genie+ from Disney. I honestly people don't want to believe it cause it's not what they want to hear.

 

[Marionnette]

With regards to the Genie+ once per ride per day, a few things to consider . . . .
1. Whilst this is been reported on a few fan sites, was it the same cast member that they all spoke to or did this come from multiple cast members at the preview?
2. Did the cast member(s) understand the question?
3. Did those that reported on this correctly interpret the answer?
4. Was the right question asked or was it asked clearly?
5. Was this info first hand, ie, did they ALL actually hear it from the cast member or someone else who spoke to a cast member and passed on the “info”.
6. Did everyone just get their wires crossed and confuse Genie+ and IA$, exactly as a very well known Disneyland vlogger did on his podcast today

Maybe, maybe not. Let’s hope it was a mistake, a misunderstanding or can be, as suggested, changed.

All THIS. Disney has yet to make an official announcement.

Yes, yes, yes. Let's not get our panties in a wad until we hear an official announcement. Then, feel free to wad those panties at will...

Carlye Wisel is a pretty trusted source. She and other media types were given a Genie/Genie+ preview. She tweeted about it yesterday afternoon and included video from the preview. The audio wasn't very clear but it did not sound as if the discussion between CM and media type was about the 1 LL per day per attraction limit.

Allears.net was also in on a media briefing and has a considerable amount of photos and comments on their website.

While it's entirely possible that things could change before the rollout (or even afterwards based on guest feedback), the 1 ride per attraction with Genie+ is pretty much a foregone conclusion that has been reported by a number of reputable sources that are not known to rely on click bait.

 

[Jrb1979]

Carlye Wisel is a pretty trusted source. She and other media types were given a Genie/Genie+ preview. She tweeted about it yesterday afternoon and included video from the preview. The audio wasn't very clear but it did not sound as if the discussion between CM and media type was about the 1 LL per day per attraction limit.

Allears.net was also in on a media briefing and has a considerable amount of photos and comments on their website.

While it's entirely possible that things could change before the rollout (or even afterwards based on guest feedback), the 1 ride per attraction with Genie+ is pretty much a foregone conclusion that has been reported by a number of reputable sources that are not known to rely on click bait.

Like I said, I think what it really comes down to is people don't want to believe it cause it's not what they want to hear.

 

[sjmac42]

Like I said, I think what it really comes down to is people don't want to believe it cause it's not what they want to hear.

I think you’re drawing a conclusion there without having all the facts which, again, is my point. I’ve simply outlined several valid reason there may be doubt about this. To say it’s a foregone conclusion based on potentially what 1 person heard from one other person who may not have clearly understood a question from a “media” person who isn’t actually a trained professional journalist about something they aren’t clear about from someone else who may just be wrong or confused by a question without notice . . . . . . . . .

I’m just saying there isn’t enough solid information yet to draw any solid conclusions. Anyone who thinks this is official Disney policy based on a few vlogs or Twitter videos that could easily fall under any of the 6 points I made earlier is been premature imo.

 

[Jrb1979]

I think you’re drawing a conclusion there without having all the facts which, again, is my point. I’ve simply outlined several valid reason there may be doubt about this. To say it’s a foregone conclusion based on potentially what 1 person heard from one other person who may not have clearly understood a question from a “media” person who isn’t actually a trained professional journalist about something they aren’t clear about from someone else who may just be wrong or confused by a question without notice . . . . . . . . .

I’m just saying there isn’t enough solid information yet to draw any solid conclusions. Anyone who thinks this is official Disney policy based on a few vlogs or Twitter videos that could easily fall under any of the 6 points I made earlier is been premature imo.

https://allears.net/2021/09/30/disney-genie-will-only-allow-you-on-each-ride-once/
There is solid information. This is from the allears article.

But, during a special preview event today, a Cast Member shared with us guests will NOT be able to re-ride attractions with Genie+.

It was a special preview that Disney put on. Unless you are waiting for Disney to officially announce it in hopes it changes.

 

[SkyGuy]

https://allears.net/2021/09/30/disney-genie-will-only-allow-you-on-each-ride-once/
There is solid information. This is from the allears article.

But, during a special preview event today, a Cast Member shared with us guests will NOT be able to re-ride attractions with Genie+.

It was a special preview that Disney put on. Unless you are waiting for Disney to officially announce it in hopes it changes.

It’s also been reported by Scott Gustin who is highly reliable.
Edit: Full disclosure - I went to link and discovered that Scott was going off the info from Carlye on this. However, I feel confident in saying he would not pass this info on if he wasn’t sure it was true.

 

[Marionnette]

I think you’re drawing a conclusion there without having all the facts which, again, is my point. I’ve simply outlined several valid reason there may be doubt about this. To say it’s a foregone conclusion based on potentially what 1 person heard from one other person who may not have clearly understood a question from a “media” person who isn’t actually a trained professional journalist about something they aren’t clear about from someone else who may just be wrong or confused by a question without notice . . . . . . . . .

I’m just saying there isn’t enough solid information yet to draw any solid conclusions. Anyone who thinks this is official Disney policy based on a few vlogs or Twitter videos that could easily fall under any of the 6 points I made earlier is been premature imo.

Believe what you want.