Disney Genie announcement

[rmclain73]

You could definitely have more than one FP at a time with Maxpass (and legacy FP).
Example:
Enter park at 9, immediately pull a FP for RSR that is for 5pm.
At 10:30 (90 minutes later), you could then pull another FP, say for Mission Breakout for 3pm.
Then at 12 (90 minutes later), you could get one for Incredicoaster for 1pm. So you would have 3 FPs at one time before ever using that first one.
This is what people are wanting/thinking, except the rumor is 2 hours instead of 90 min.

Would MaxPass let you choose those times further out? In the case with Genie you only get what is next available. It may not always work out where the next available is that far off in the day.

 

[shawthorne44]

Would MaxPass let you choose those times further out? In the case with Genie you only get what is next available. It may not always work out where the next available is that far off in the day.

Both can be true. Some rides would book up quickly. Probably not getting a 6pm time at 9 am, but maybe 1pm. So, if you wanted to stack, you'd watch the most popular ride until the offer hit the earliest time you'd like. Also, MaxPass included the Tier 1 rides that will now be IA$$$. So, those were the ones that gave out all reservations by early afternoon. Because of that, the ones still on G+ might not 'sell out', so the cooling time period might be less important. In which case, our plan will be to get a G+ reservation, then do standby in a IA$$$ ride (repeat).

With FPP tiers, there was one or two Tier 2 rides that everyone wanted. I expect the same thing will happen with G+.

 

[Violetspider]

Would MaxPass let you choose those times further out? In the case with Genie you only get what is next available. It may not always work out where the next available is that far off in the day.

Maxpass only offered you the next available time. You could hold off and choose a time that you liked better later in the day. The one exception is when a cancellation would happen. Someone would cancel and/or modify a time and that reservation would instantly appear. Those cancellations were like gold and would get snatched up quickly for the better rides.

 

[Jrb1979]

Maxpass only offered you the next available time. You could hold off and choose a time that you liked better later in the day.

I'm trying to figure out why anyone would try to find something for later in the day? You would never get your money's worth doing that.

 

[elgerber]

I just really wish they would give a date! We leave in 2 1/2 weeks and it's really hard to even ballpark plan our days, without knowing if this will be in play or not.

 

[shawthorne44]

I'm trying to figure out why anyone would try to find something for later in the day? You would never get your money's worth doing that.

At least the way it worked with MaxPass. You'd get a reservation for the most popular ride for later in the day while you are waiting in early morning short standby lines. The only way that would be worthwhile is if they allow you to get another pass after a cooling off time-period. If you got a 1pm reservation at 9am and then had to wait until you got on the other ride at 1pm to get another reservation, then that wouldn't be worthwhile.

Stacking/cool-off time period, would also really benefit those that didn't get to the parks until later. They could get reservations at 7am, 9am and 11am from their hotel room. So, if they didn't arrive until lunch, they could have three reservations waiting for them.

 

[gharter]

I just really wish they would give a date! We leave in 2 1/2 weeks and it's really hard to even ballpark plan our days, without knowing if this will be in play or not.

Completely agree. Not sure if we will use it, but would like to know ahead of time if it will be active during our stay.
I can see where Genie + might be helpful at MK. Can't see any benefit at AK or EPCOT.

 

[Landry]

I'm trying to figure out why anyone would try to find something for later in the day? You would never get your money's worth doing that.

It's definitely a thing for Radiator Springs. It's great during the day but it's amazing after it gets dark. I would try for a MaxPass selection for it first thing in the morning and then keep an eye on it around lunch for the evening/night pass.

 

[bsmcneil]

It's definitely a thing for Radiator Springs. It's great during the day but it's amazing after it gets dark. I would try for a MaxPass selection for it first thing in the morning and then keep an eye on it around lunch for the evening/night pass.

Slinky Dog Dash is so much better at night. It really, really felt special.

 

[scrappinginontario]

It's definitely a thing for Radiator Springs. It's great during the day but it's amazing after it gets dark. I would try for a MaxPass selection for it first thing in the morning and then keep an eye on it around lunch for the evening/night pass.

Your response made me go back and read the original announcement and it seems that one of the differences I'd previously missed was that Genie+ will give you the 'next available time to arrive' whereas IA$ will allow a guest to 'schedule a time to arrive'.

It seems the two will act differently in that one is next available but for those I am choosing to pay an additional fee for, I'll be presented with a variety of options and choose the time that works best for our party. As you mentioned, some attractions are better at night so it's nice to have the option to schedule them at the time I want to enjoy them or, work them around dining, park hopping, etc.

Still a lot of unanswered questions but that's how I'm reading the original announcement.

 

[gharter]

Slinky Dog Dash is so much better at night. It really, really felt special.

Agree. SDD if fun during the day. But SO much better at night with all the lights really adding to it.

 

[bashuck]

I'm trying to figure out why anyone would try to find something for later in the day? You would never get your money's worth doing that.

Park hopping after hitting the pool. I could easily see leaving MK at noon and planning on arriving at HS at 5pm and wanting to ride ToT at that time.

 

[Bama Mom]

Completely agree. Not sure if we will use it, but would like to know ahead of time if it will be active during our stay.
I can see where Genie + might be helpful at MK. Can't see any benefit at AK or EPCOT.

This is my thought too. It would be good for Magic Kingdom and Hollywood Studios but not so much for EPCOT and Animal Kingdom for me. I love AK and as long as I get to ride FOP without a long wait (which I wouldn't wait for anyways) I don't see the need to use Genie+ there. When I go in February, Everest is scheduled to be down so the only other thing I care about is FOP and the KS. EPCOT is my least favorite park but we still visit. I wouldn't waste the money for Genie+ here either. There isn't enough that I care to do there to get Genie+. So the only two parks I would get use out of it at are MK and HS.

 

[Violetspider]

I'm trying to figure out why anyone would try to find something for later in the day? You would never get your money's worth doing that.

As others have eluded to, people would leave the park for a midday break and still be stacking FP's for the evening. Once back in the park, they could have 3 or 4 evening FPs lined up. They didn't need to relegate them to just the one park either. They could easily bounce back and forth between DL and DCA with a bit of creative timing choices. Maxpass was a great system they I hope is mirrored in G+.

One unfortunate downside to all of this will be the heavy reliance on your device. Once you've purchased G+, you're going to end up on your phone a lot in order to get the most out of your investment. It's been pretty nice the last few trips to WDW without feeling that need to refresh, refresh, refresh for FPs. G+ will be that on steroids, since you will be doing that right out the gate as opposed to after you've used your third FP for the day.

 

[goofynut41]

Wen does this Genie stuff start and how to use it?

 

[Jrb1979]

As others have eluded to, people would leave the park for a midday break and still be stacking FP's for the evening. Once back in the park, they could have 3 or 4 evening FPs lined up. They didn't need to relegate them to just the one park either. They could easily bounce back and forth between DL and DCA with a bit of creative timing choices. Maxpass was a great system they I hope is mirrored in G+.

One unfortunate downside to all of this will be the heavy reliance on your device. Once you've purchased G+, you're going to end up on your phone a lot in order to get the most out of your investment. It's been pretty nice the last few trips to WDW without feeling that need to refresh, refresh, refresh for FPs. G+ will be that on steroids, since you will be doing that right out the gate as opposed to after you've used your third FP for the day.

I get stacking when at the resort for an afternoon rest. I'm more talking about those that have mentioned hoping to book evening rides first thing in the morning.

 

[Stephy811]

Wen does this Genie stuff start and how to use it?

Long answer: read the last 122 pages of this thread
Short answer: nobody knows lol

 

[Kbrb]

Disney need to rip the band aid, Yes they are going to be mauled over the costs and details but the longer the put it off the more it will start messing with all the 50th stuff.

Unless they push it out mid November on the sly. Deal with a month of fall out then try to hide behind "xmas at disney!!"

I have zero doubt the fact we have no details is a direct result of the backlash they are getting.

 

[scrappinginontario]

While I understand people here are anxiously waiting for more information, my thought is the average Disney guest has zero indication that this change is coming.

Tomorrow is their 50th Anniversary and they won’t be doing anything now to mess with that.

It will happen and more Genie details and a start date will come but not for the next bit. They will wait until the initial celebrations have kicked off and at this point, I understand that.

 

[Grasshopper2016]

As incompetent and ham-fisted as this entire process has been, I am nonetheless shocked that Disney was not able to get Genie up and running by now. Tomorrow marks the beginning of the biggest celebration in park history. The crowds are expected to be huge, and the media will be watching. For Disney to have no mechanism in place to distribute crowds efficiently, and no option available to skip the lines --- despite having announced and hyped the impending arrival of a whole new and supposedly revolutionary system weeks ago --- is stunning.