Disney Genie announcement

[CaptainAmerica]

Emphasis added.

Disney wants to sell Genie+ to everyone. They're not going to cannibalize Genie+ perceived value for the sake of IAS, which will have much lower uptake.

 

[Amore Disney]

Disney wants to sell Genie+ to everyone. They're not going to cannibalize Genie+ perceived value for the sake of IAS, which will have much lower uptake.

Businesses cannibalize their products all the time; it's just a matter of total profits. The iPhone 13 was just announced, and that will cannibalize iPhone 12 sales.

I am fairly certain Disney will alter IAS offerings, both by # and available attractions based on demand. I could see them changing some parks to 3 IAS, like at Epcot once Guardians of the Galaxy opens. And then other parks like AK changing to 1 IAS to only FOP if having both FOP and EE is cannibalizing Genie+ too much.

 

[Kbrb]

I don’t think it’s a case of being thankful but I am surprised that Disney has thrown a bone and kept water parks/ Photopass on the 1-2 week passes as they could have easily stripped them out like annual passes.

Personally I don’t think the UK park tickets are priced too badly but that’s my opinion. A single day adult ticket to chessington is £60

In regards to Genie+, it’s optional if people want to use it. US visitors are probably more pushed to use it as they go for much shorter trips

No offense but your original post was stating you dont understand how this has added $500 on a trip. My post laid out how it does. Now your saying you dont have to buy it. By that logic i dont have to go at all and i will save loads. Regardless of how much the tickets are. They have priced them in a way to get us over, onsite for 2 weeks. The cheap tickets and free food are offers they have worked out they need to offer. Stripping out is the number one goal for them at the moment and they still gave the UK guests offers. Which would suggest they know the market wont tolerate anything less.

If they then plan on up selling the stay based on "dont want to spend 4k to stand in lines simply pay more" then i think they will be in for a shock. A quick look at the DIBB board is enough to see the backlash.

I would also suggest that UK guests dont go to Disney every year. Most still class it as once in a life time which pushes us more to "get everything done" which in turns pushes us to pay for the up charges.

I wouldnt be overly shocked to see genie+ offered free with 14 night stays and tickets.

 

[ThistleMae]

Not saying you're wrong, just that I see it differently.

I'm guessing G+ will work a lot like FP+ and everything will be released at the same time. The more interest there is in a ride, the less availability there will be earlier in the day as it fills quickly and the later the time will be presented. I feel (again, only my opinion) that some of the more attractive rides will fill their G+ allotment early in the day. Yes, some may open later as people choose to cancel and look for a different one or, plans change but who knows? Similar to FP+, I would hope for but not expect to get a G+ for a popular ride if I hop to that park. I see most of the availability later in the day being for less popular rides.

Time will tell. For now, everything is speculation.

If it works this way won't it discourage folks from purchasing PH, especially since you can't hop till 2 p.m.?

 

[goofynut41]

When does all this take place and how will it effect Rise Of Restence? We will be there in early Dec and would like to have a idea of how this will work.. My husband is a HUGE Star Wars fan and want to get on ROR if possible..

 

[Marionnette]

When does all this take place and how will it effect Rise Of Restence? We will be there in early Dec and would like to have a idea of how this will work.. My husband is a HUGE Star Wars fan and want to get on ROR if possible..

Disney has been radio silent on the subject of Genie+ and IA$ since the announcement on August 18. There have been reports that it will start on October 4th but those are unconfirmed. Signage has already gone up for Lightning Lanes where FastPass entrances used to be.

The list of IA$ attractions has not been released. Pricing is expected to run anywhere from $4-$24 per person per attraction. ROTR is almost certain to be an IA$ attraction, although some free boarding groups are anticipated to be made available. Given the ride's limited capacity, you can expect free boarding groups to be much more limited in quantity that before.

 

[Kbrb]

Disney has been radio silent on the subject of Genie+ and IA$ since the announcement on August 18. There have been reports that it will start on October 4th but those are unconfirmed. Signage has already gone up for Lightning Lanes where FastPass entrances used to be.

The list of IA$ attractions has not been released. Pricing is expected to run anywhere from $4-$24 per person per attraction. ROTR is almost certain to be an IA$ attraction, although some free boarding groups are anticipated to be made available. Given the ride's limited capacity, you can expect free boarding groups to be much more limited in quantity that before.

I can only imagine the bad PR they will get when they announce that pricing. Internally they must be dreading having to put that out. They are better getting it over and done with asap, its not going to get any better

 

[luv2cheer92]

Disney has been radio silent on the subject of Genie+ and IA$ since the announcement on August 18. There have been reports that it will start on October 4th but those are unconfirmed. Signage has already gone up for Lightning Lanes where FastPass entrances used to be.

The list of IA$ attractions has not been released. Pricing is expected to run anywhere from $4-$24 per person per attraction. ROTR is almost certain to be an IA$ attraction, although some free boarding groups are anticipated to be made available. Given the ride's limited capacity, you can expect free boarding groups to be much more limited in quantity that before.

RotR was one of the three rides that Disney already confirmed was going to be IAS

 

[Marionnette]

I can only imagine the bad PR they will get when they announce that pricing. Internally they must be dreading having to put that out. They are better getting it over and done with asap, its not going to get any better

I'm not sure why they are delaying it. I think it would have been better to rip the Band-Aid off at the beginning. But I guess they're hoping that the dust from the initial announcement will settle and they can roll this thing out while the "magic" of the 50th is still making the internet buzz.

 

[goofynut41]

RotR was one of the three rides that Disney already confirmed was going to be IAS

So if you get the Genie+ you wont have to do the lottery early in the morning?

 

[luv2cheer92]

So if you get the Genie+ you wont have to do the lottery early in the morning?

RotR is not a part of Genie+. It will have two options. The same boarding group process it has had, or purchasing the IAS for it.

 

[Kingoglow]

I'm not sure why they are delaying it. I think it would have been better to rip the Band-Aid off at the beginning. But I guess they're hoping that the dust from the initial announcement will settle and they can roll this thing out while the "magic" of the 50th is still making the internet buzz.

Why would they announce anything about the cost of IA$?
Since surge prices are being used, they don't have to plan in a top end price at all. Do you want them to say that IA$ reservations could cost '$1.00 or more'?

I know that this group is trying to model this agains the system in Disneyland Paris but really this is its own thing. The price could be anything.

 

[Marionnette]

So if you get the Genie+ you wont have to do the lottery early in the morning?

Just to be clear:
Genie+ is the $15 per person per day line-skipping purchase that will allow you to hold one Lightning Lane return time at a time. It will not include all attractions because some attractions will involve a separate charge in order to skip their standby lines.

IA$ (Individual Atrraction Selection) is an additional fee-per-attraction for skipping the standby line (or boarding group system) at attractions that are not included in Genie+. They will reportedly be the most in-demand attractions, such as ROTR.

 

[MrBellatrixLestrange]

Just to be clear:
Genie+ is the $15 per person per day line-skipping purchase that will allow you to hold one Lightning Lane return time at a time. It will not include all attractions because some attractions will involve a separate charge in order to skip their standby lines.

IA$ (Individual Atrraction Selection) is an additional fee-per-attraction for skipping the standby line (or boarding group system) at attractions that are not included in Genie+. They will reportedly be the most in-demand attractions, such as ROTR.

Ain't it great to have Disney Genie+ to simplify trips to WDW? Another 110+ pages and we'll all be slightly less confused...

 

[Marionnette]

Why would they announce anything about the cost of IA$?
Since surge prices are being used, they don't have to plan in a top end price at all. Do you want them to say that IA$ reservations could cost '$1.00 or more'?

I know that this group is trying to model this agains the system in Disneyland Paris but really this is its own thing. The price could be anything.

It would be nice to know a start date. It would be nice to know which attractions will be included in IA$. It would be nice to know what kind of price range we're looking at for IA$ attractions.

And FWIW, Disney has neither verified nor denied that there will be surge pricing. So I don't understand why you would state it as a fact.

 

[goofynut41]

Ain't it great to have Disney Genie+ to simplify trips to WDW? Another 110+ pages and we'll all be slightly less confused...

never thought you would need docturet degree to go to disney ... that leaves me out

 

[WRLeGrand]

Any reliable information about when Genie+ will start? We got in three weeks and would really kind of prefer this be in place...

 

[Marionnette]

Any reliable information about when Genie+ will start? We got in three weeks and would really kind of prefer this be in place...

The only reliable info would come directly from Disney and they're not saying. Signage is up for Lightning Lanes where FastPass lines existed previously. But Go Live has not been announced.

 

[btuftee]

never thought you would need docturet degree to go to disney ... that leaves me out

Well, all that G+ really is, is a paid version of the old pre-2013 FP system. Instead of physically walking to the FP kiosks and inserting your ticket, now you just tap your phone a few times. No need to worry about selecting your FP+ selections and booking a time slot 60 days out. In that sense, it's much simpler than FP+.

I do wonder if Disney is going to make some allowance for people without smartphones - in the days of FP+, there were touchscreen kiosks and Cast Members with iPads ready to assist if you didn't have a smartphone in the parks or were having issues. In the old days of FP, there was always a Cast Member hanging around the FP kiosk machines to deal with the inevitable issues you might have as well, so I would think they've got to be planning for that.

 

[Marionnette]

Well, all that G+ really is, is a paid version of the old pre-2013 FP system. Instead of physically walking to the FP kiosks and inserting your ticket, now you just tap your phone a few times. No need to worry about selecting your FP+ selections and booking a time slot 60 days out. In that sense, it's much simpler than FP+.

I do wonder if Disney is going to make some allowance for people without smartphones - in the days of FP+, there were touchscreen kiosks and Cast Members with iPads ready to assist if you didn't have a smartphone in the parks or were having issues. In the old days of FP, there was always a Cast Member hanging around the FP kiosk machines to deal with the inevitable issues you might have as well, so I would think they've got to be planning for that.

There were reports that FP+ kiosks were uncovered and dusted off months ago. My guess is that those will be used for Genie+ and IA$ if people without smartphones want to purchase and use it. Seems like it would be more hassle than it is worth for Genie+ but may be worthwhile for IA$ selections.