Disenchanting experience at our beloved AKL(long).

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Tiffany said:
Those were a $170 pair of sunglasses that can be worn by a man or a woman. I know that if I left them on a table up here in Boston I would not be getting them back.

I hear ya! I don't think people understand how lucky they are just to get their belongings BACK!!!!!! My Mother, I love her dearly, but.......she is the most scattered human being on EARTH! She has lost her pocket book *2* times at WDW!!!! Both times the pocket pook AND it's contents (several hundred dollars! :earseek: ) have been returned! Kudos to WDW - they rock.
 
I am really glad you got your camera back!

Just a few notes though:

I don't understand why anyone would ask for the General manager over something like this. Not to downplay the situation but you really do not need the head of the whole resort to come down and talk to you. And being thanksgiving he would not be there anyway.

Also it shouldn't matter if it is a 1 star or a 5 star.

btw Jiko is rated 3 mobile stars.
 
I get very upset when I misplace items also, but truly after listening to your story I don't think you were patient enough and I agree with another poster, you can't expect everyone to drop what they are doing to look for your camera. Eventually it was tracked down, for that you should be grateful. I put my name and resort on my cameras when at Disney.
 
I think you should consider yourself lucky you got your camera back. WDW is just as likely to have theft as any other place. BTW, why were you so heartbroken since everything worked out? I'm sure the GM has a lot bigger things to deal with than a missing camera. If I leave something somwhere I blame myself and then try to find it. I probably would have gone to lost and found and then waited til the restaurant opened to ask for it which is what they told you to do. Sorry it was so hard on you, but it sounds like you don't like to wait.
 

I just wanted to add....Why in God's name would you want to cause trouble for the GM?! I think you should be singing praises to AKL - YOU GOT YOUR CAMERA BACK!!!!! Sheesh - Most people would kill for your "bad experience". Awhile back there was a person in AKL suites that had TONS of money stolen and NOTHING was done - you are SOOOOOOO lucky. Please think twice before subjecting that poor GM to an unfair scathing.
 
My son lost a wallet in Epcot and although it took several days - it DID end up in lost and found with the money in it. We were very patient - and it worked! Lots of things going on there and dealing with 1 lost thing is not the first priority I am sure. They may only send things over to L&F once a day or every other day - I have no idea.....some things just take time....breathe!

Also - I never knew that losing a camera could be reported as stolen to your insurance company - I will have to check into that. Just never dawned on me that something I left somewhere could be termed 'stolen' - live and learn i guess!
 
Cris said:
I don't understand why anyone would ask for the General manager over something like this. Not to downplay the situation but you really do not need the head of the whole resort to come down and talk to you. And being thanksgiving he would not be there anyway.

Yeah, I feel the same way. AKL was really good about sending us some jewelry that we left behind after our last stay there. We didn't even realize we had left it, but they called us a few weeks after we checked out! And they sent it for free, too!

You have to realize that Disney probably deals with thousands of lost items every day-- they HAVE to have a routine procedure for dealing with it, and they can't break the rules for everybody or it would be chaos.
 
I left a pair of black sandals behind (the closet was too dark for me to see them).. they were old so it didn't matter. I didn't even bother to call after we got home.
A week later, on a Saturday morning, I get a call from a lost and found manager at AKL... he asked me if I forgot a pair of sandals..I was astounded! They mailed them to me that day! He ended the call with " Have a terrific Disney Day"!

This year, I left a beautiful red Christmas Mickey polar fleece at Y & C.. see a pattern here? This one I figured was a total loss, as it was brand new and could fit anyone. Wrong! Y&C Lost and Found called us right back after we left a message, and mailed it out.
My faith in Disney is intact... my memory, obviously is not! :flower1:
 
I forgot my jewelry box at OKW a couple years ago. I noticed it was gone when I unpacked at the Dolphin, less than 6 hours after leaving OKW. I called OKW right away and housekeeping claimed that they didn't find it. I left a description and called a couple more times. About a month later I received the jewelry box in the mail. Everything was there except for my diamond earrings. Since they had been a gift from an ex-BF, my DH was happy to replace them for me ;).
 
Now that others have mentioned it - we left several articles of clothing at AKL and didn't even know it. They called us, too and asked about the articles. I laughed and said - yep - those are ours! They said no problem - and sent them free! GREAT JOB!
 
I have to add one more thing: I stayed at a motel in Mexico Beach, Fl this summer and my fiance left his battery charger plugged in in the room.

He called when we got back and asked about it. They had found it but were going to charge him $25 to send it back to him! Which, of course, is about twice as much as it cost him to buy a new one. So he just let them keep it. :D


So.... I think Disney does a great service by mailing lost and found stuff for free!
 
The point I am making is that they didn't follow there own process. Processes are in place to prevent events like this from happening. Disney is the Hallmark for others to measure in customer service and quaility because they have specific processes and proceedures in place. Their reputation for quality and customer service is why we are there onsite and not at the gaylord palms etc...

I wanted to speak to the GM because the "service" I was recieving was not up to my expectations. I don't think at AKL a guest should have to "beg" to be let into a restaurant or talk to a manager to determine if a 6O0$ camera has been stolen or missplaced. I wanted all possiblities to be checked prior to filling out a police report. Sorry but I think SOMEONE from AKLs management could have adressed my concerns unless their all preforming CPR at the same time...isn't this part of their responciblities???

The organization I work for had it's managemt team trained by Disney. Back when the institute was around. WE all know the song and verse on customer service and service recovery. What I experienced was not what taught and I feel is a direct result why it took 8 hours, several different CMs and a wasted day on my part to accomplish would could have been resolved in an hour.

As I stated before I am VERY grateful it was returned. As I also stated I know "no one died" . The thought of losing ALL my pics from Mickey to the CRT with my 2 , 7 and 10yo DD was what was sickening. The heartbreak is that Disney was no different service then any Hyatt ...thats the pixie dust that is blown out of my eyes...IMHO it is an example of what Roy Disney has been complaining about. Losing a camera may be an every day event to them but it wasn't to me.
 
DisOrBust said:
I wanted to speak to the GM because the "service" I was recieving was not up to my expectations. I don't think at AKL a guest should have to "beg" to be let into a restaurant or talk to a manager to determine if a 6O0$ camera has been stolen or missplaced.

So you think that everyone who claims they left something in Jiko or Boma should be let in after hours?
 
Its a sad thought that WDW has gotten so indifferent, but Im glad you got you camera back. I get emotional over little things too, so dont feel down about that either. hugz.
 
Disorbust, I am sorry you are getting so little sympathy here. Pictures are VERY important to me as well and I can understand how upsetting the loss of them can be. I don't think you overreacted by calling the GM. I have heard of people doing that for having an unsatisfactory room, so why not for unsatisfactory service? For those who ask if they think the CM should get worked up the answer is yes. That is what Guest Services does! Take care of the guests. Lost cameras may happen all the time but that doesn't make it less upsetting when it happens to you and should not be treated as stupidity or as an irritation.
Part of the point is they DO have procedures for handling lost items and they were not followed in this instance (something that happens a lot from posts here). Why have a policy if nobody follows it?
By the way, forgetting something is not being stupid. There is a lot going on at Disney and sometimes in the excitement even important things get left behind.

OT, but does nobody find the L&F being closed Sunday (when a lot of people are packing and realizing what may be lost) very strange?
 
Well, I got a call from a manager at AKL weeks after we got home because they found my son's belt and wanted to send it to us, so I think they're pretty accomodating!

The camera I could live without--it's the pictures that are priceless. I'm glad you got it back, but I think you should remember "all's well that ends well". :D
 
Tinkbell said:
I'm glad you got your camera back. I lost a camera once at Cedar Point and I was so mad at myself. Now, I always keep a return address label on my cameras just in case an honest person or CM should find it.

Now that is a good idea!!
 
I read this thread through and realized that we are all pretty much filled with pixie dust for Disney. I was surprised at the posters who kinda slammed someone for crying over spilt milk...when that milk cost $600 and had lots of important photos. Yes, she did get her camara back and yes she should be thankful...but the tears and worry and heartbreak of a full day of vacation is hard to replace.
On the other hand...one bad experience should NOT be a call to arms that ALL the CMs and all the GMs and waiters and maids service people are thieves.
Here's an idea: empathy for both sides and trying to help each side understand what the other was feeling doing. Wouldn't that be a win/win?

It always amazes me how those of us in the service industry can make or break someone's day with just a smile. The bottom line is that if someone comes to you for help, just TELL them that you will do everything possible to find that camera and make it right. Give them EMPATHY, and whether or not the camera is ever found, the person feels better because empathy was shown.
And btw, all it takes is a key and 3 minutes to get into the closed restaurant to look while it takes half an hour to explain why you can't.

We ALL need to practice empathy more. Empathy for the woman who was visible crushed at the loss of her camera and empathy for the Disney staff who was probably running around 'all cut up chicken no mo head ' on Thanksgiviing day. We need to remember that lots of these people aren't getting paid very much, and I think they sometimes justify taking things from 'the rich people who visit here' ....tho it is THEFT and not all of us visitors are rich!

I think training people in the service industry has to include in depth empathy training and it so often doesn't.

P.S.: I lose things all the time and almost always they are returned. Once, a wallet fell out of my purse at a restaurant . Returned with th $600 still in it.
But then a digital camera was lost in a taxi in Mexico...and I even had the taxi number and went to his house and confronted him and still didn't get it back. So I gave him the battery charger and said: here, you'll need this.
Once, at a BW hotel outside DisneyLAND, I left my nightgown hanging on the back hook of the bathroom. I called (as we had moved into the Disneyland hotel just a few blocks away) housekeeping and was told it hadn't been turned in, which perplexed me, so I went over and back into the room to check to see if the maid accidentally overlooked it at checkout...nope. So I knew someone in housekeeping had it cause no one had checked into the room. So I took the robe that matched and gave it to the manager and said that it went with the nightie that was 'missing'. The nightie showed up later that day!!!! I guess that's called shaming people into doing the right thing (or maybe it is passive/aggressive!!!!)

I am so glad that you got your camera back and I can understand how upset you were to be treated without empathy! If you do write a letter to complain about the management people behind the desk...please consider ALSO writiing a letter to the staff at the restaurant, complimenting them on their honesty for turning the camera in. Offer a reward (which I am sure will be declined but the intent will make someone smile). Send a letter to management re the honestly of the workers at the restaurant.

The way I see it...then everybody wins and people learn how to handle these situations better. I leave for Disney and the AKL on Friday...I think I will take the time today to mark my cell phone number on my camera: if found, please call: Never thought of that before!!!!

Take care all and be sure to spread a little pixie empathy dust today!
Colorado (tinker) Belle!
 
DisOrBust said:
We returned to our room at 5pm and had 2 messages on our phone!! The first was from Brenda She had gotten a hold of the night manager who had the camera and put it in Jiko's safe. If they would have followed their own process on lost items going to Lost and found it would have been resolved at 8 in the morning, instead we were told it couldn't be anywhere else!The Disneyworld I went to five years ago would not have blown off my concerns. Management, specifically the GM, lack of concern for a guest who is at the front desk in a pool of tears pledding for someone to help check every possible place it could have been hads truely taken the pixie dust out of this girls eyes!! If the GM would have given me the time of day it could have been all taken care of at 8am for that precious wasted day I will never forgive the GM. Sue

I really don't mean to discount your feelings but I hope you don't let this ruin your feelings on Disney resorts. It's bad enough that it sounds like it ruined a whole day for you while you were on vacation with your family. I hope, in the end, you can look back and think fondly of your trip (especially since you did get those great pix back that you thought you may have lost ). :)

This is just my opinion and again I don't want to discount your experience and/or feelings about this. We all react differently to things and we all know that when you are "in the moment" things can feel worse than they are. So, I understand why you were upset at the time.

However, I don't think the turnaround time and the service were out of line. The camera wasn't brought to Lost and Found immediately because I'm sure it was closed at that point. So, they did the next best thing which was to put in a safe and wait until the next day to take care of it in the appropriate manner.

I wasn't there but with the actions that were taken, it doesn't seem like they were blowing you off. The GM is not on standby 24-7 and just b/c he or she couldn't come out to talk to you right at that moment doesn't mean they didn't care. The GM could have been in a meeting, attending to a far worse situation, or not in the immediate area. No offense, but saying the CM should have attended to you unless they were performing CPR seems a little unrealistic to me. It doesn't sound like your requests were ignored. I would understand completely if the front desk told you there was absolutely nothing they could do for you and leave it at that. Then, I would feel completely blown off. Instead, the food/beverage manager was called in and several CM's got involved right away. Now, if they were giving you an attitude the whole time, that is a WHOLE other story. You should have been greeted with a smile and a caring attitude. That is one thing you have to do in providing GOOD service.

If the day got ruined, it wasn't the GM's fault, JMHO. Sometimes you have to let things go and move on with your day as best you can. Again, I understand your feelings and I'm not discounting them. Just expressing my point of view so as to maybe cast a good light on a bad memory. :) :) :)
 
".....But then a digital camera was lost in a taxi in Mexico...and I even had the taxi number and went to his house and confronted him and still didn't get it back. So I gave him the battery charger and said: here, you'll need this......."

That is an absolute riot!!! I would have never thought of that. Hopefully it made the driver feel a little bit like a jerk. Nice job!!!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOL
 
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