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Lessa...ask your onc to make the appointment for you. Bet he/she can get it sooner.

Snappy.... take care and know we're all behind you!

NHAnn.... good news!

Nothing much here. School is going fine. We have a stupid inservice tomorrow that we have to drive 2 hours for. Ugh! Poor DS6 threw up in school today and now he and DH can't go with me tomorrow....they were going to go to the zoo and a neat kids' museum in Columbia.

Tore a muscle in my leg Monday night bowling....first time in like a million years and this happens! Went to the ER and confirmed it was a tear, on crutches now for 2 days. Do have some vicodin, but it still hurts. I'll be glad for the weekend!

GAGWTA
 
Missy, Oh Missy did you get scheduled for that mamo? Mine is Oct 7 :wave2:
 
Thanks everyone for your well wishes.

Things are tough. We have much to be grateful for in that Baton Rouge was spared. Also, that all our relatives and friends are alive.

All of my in laws live in New Orleans, Metairie or Slidell. I have numerous maternal relatives throughout the area, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.

The worst damage for our group, although they are not letting anyone in to check their homes yet, is in certain areas near the Lakefront. My best friend in the world and her son live about 800 feet from Lake Pontchartrain. Apparently, the water was up almost to the street lights in her vicinity. My mother-in-law's house we think had water up to the eaves. It is tough for them, my friend is a single mom and my mother-in-law is a widow living with her daughter who has Crohn's disease. Getting the homes back in to shape will require at the least gutting everything. Knowing my husband he will do all he can. He is my mother-in-law's rock, he is so patient with her, helping with the insurance filings, bank accounts, etc. Luckily, his two other sisters had less damage, one had only about a foot of water in her house, the other in Slidell had no water. His brothers believe their homes are ok. We'll see.

No one expected to be gone from home more than a day or two so they only brought clothes for 3-4 days and a few important papers. Very few pictures or other irreplacable treasures of a lifetime made it into the cars. I liken it to losing everything in a fire, except at least for the houses in Orleans parish we won't know if ANYTHING is salvagable for who knows how long. The uncertainly is very unsettling. The people in Bay St. Louis, Gulfport and Biloxi have at least been able to go in and see their losses.

It is hectic in our house with so many people here. The phone is constantly ringing, and it is difficult to get a line out. We are relying on email alot.
Computer time though is at a premium, filing for FEMA has consumed countless hours, and we are sending a lot of emails staying in touch with family since the phones are so unreliable.

Not sure how long my in laws will be here. They were supposed to leave this week to go to Dallas and stay with my niece who has temporarily relocated there. She moved in to the apartment her company rented for her today only to find it is a very small one bedroom affair with a kitchenette, it just won't work for 4 people and a doggie.

So we are trying to get back onto a routine now that school has resumed along with swim team, soccer, football games, ACT prep classes, etc. My life seemed crazy before Katrina, but with all the running around and with the greatly increased commute time due to the evacuees and relief workers that have swamped our city even going to the grocery store is an ordeal.
You cannot find everything you need in one store, even today certain isles of the store have limited stock, and the roads are gridlocked.

I am blessed that my in laws are such good houseguests. They help me out with everything, and my mom also has been helping me. We have wall to wall clothes, papers, bedding, it is controlled chaos. We have our rocky moments, my mother-in-law's dog is 14 years old and is having a problem keeping food down, has even spit up blood. I borrowed a kennel for the dog but she is understandably anxious as we all are and does not want to stay in the kennel.

So the dog is a bit of a bone of contention, but she actually seems to be doing better. We have taken two trips to the vet, one near miss with putting the dog down, but DH felt it was too much to lose your house and all your belongings and your dog in one week so he counseled holding off.
Now I am glad we did, my mother-in-law just holds her dog and pets her for hours on end.

Right now I can't see any light at the end of the tunnel. And we are truly much better off than many. I just don't know how some are coping.
I think our lives are forever changed and our own house was not even damaged. We will be helping my in-laws and friends get back on their feet for a long time.
 
So much sadness going on... this is long...so I'll write a couple of posts....I want to catch up with you and share some good news too! :sunny:

My online group for young bc survivors (SIS) has really been through the wringer lately and I don't mind sharing some of it publicly (some I have already!) because I know I have praying GAGWTA sistas here! :angel:

A sista's husband (they were seperated in large part due to her cancer dx, he couldn't handle it, and blamed her for his troubles) committed suicide on 8/25 (while I was still in the hospital). She was with him 1/2 hour before he killed himself. He had wanted her to stay, but she needed to go home and get some rest because she's post surgery. She has a lot of guilt about leaving him alone... but is angry at him for not having the strength to get better to live to raise the kids as she's fighting for her life to be here for them. Her kids are 10, 12 and 16yrs old. Please pray for this family, and especially my friend Linda's health... she is stage IV.

I got an update on my sista Nik (also stage IV) in Mandeville LA:

Hey sistahs! I am finally able to get on the internet occasionally. We are still out of power and will probably be for 3-6 weeks and the price of gas isn’t making it any easier to use the generator. I have my husband’s family here with us. We are all sleeping on the living room floor with an air condition window unit from my daughter’s dollhouse. We are much better than so many, at least I still have a house and we are all alive. We finally reached my father in law and he is ok. Two of my aunt’s houses are still under water. Many members of our family are homeless. Some have water over their rooftops! Most of you know I live around many members of my family on a dead end street and we actually have family living in motor homes on some of our property because they have no where else to go. My aunt told us that a friend went looking to check on his mom’s house (he is a fireman in that area) and he was looking for landmarks and realized he was floating on top of it in his boat! It is really bad here. Me, my niece and sil drove over an hour to get some supplies and had to bring my husband’s gun because people were carjacking and taking the cars until they ran out of gas and then carjacked someone else. Drugs were a huge problem in many parts of New Orleans and the addicts were having such bad withdrawals that they were trying to break through a children’s hospital to get drugs. The nurses were hiding on the roof with some of the children it got so bad, thankfully no one was hurt! It has been so bad that two police officers committed suicide. My cousin is a fireman in New Orleans and he has been helping recover bodies and he is so very traumatized by what he is seeing. There was a shark seen in some of the flood waters coming from the lake and alligators eating off of bodies floating in the streets. It is horrible. We waited three hours in line for gas and can’t leave the house without being fearful of being attacked or carjacked. It is like a war zone. We went out yesterday to check at my doctor’s office because I did have to miss chemo last Friday and they had military walking with guns. Luckily my doctor’s office is very close to the hospital so they now have power because the hospital has electricity. They are having trouble getting supplies but are supposed to call me tomorrow and I pray I will be able to resume treatment on Friday. I am just afraid of someone coming in there with a gun looking for drugs. A neighbor actually put a sign up at the entrance of our street that says, “You loot, we shoot” Can you believe that we actually have to worry about this in a time of crisis like this? I have no idea when I will be going back to work and I am so worried because we need my paycheck. Luckily Jason is still getting paid and his company graciously sent us a generator and chain saw. I just ask for prayers for the people affected by this tragedy and that I can get my treatment Friday. The place I have lived my entire life and made so many memories will never be the same. I will check in as I can. I am still praying for you all!
Love,
Nik


Please pray that she is able to get chemo TODAY! I wrote her back that if she can't get chemo there, our local YSCMD group is working with Johns Hopkins (I'm in MD) and there is a network that will fly cancer patients up and treat them and she can stay with me.
 

Harambe, Mickey Nut 50 and others I may have missed- Welcome to the GAGWTA Sistas! :sunny: I'm glad you found our little home!

Mickey Nut 50- I didn't know that about DES, I guess it's not surprising though. That's the one that caused so many birth defects, right? I'm curious,what age you were dxed with bc?

Lessa of Pern- My dds read the kid's biography about Lance and I think it really helped them. In fact, last year in 3rd grade my youngest did it for a book report and we bought kid sized Livestrong bracelets for the class (they loved it!) His wife went through alot with the whole fertility thing, but from what I've heard, it seems their marriage ended for other reasons that I suppose it would have happened anyway. I'm sure he still has love for his wife, she's the mother of his children...

I don't get mammograms (no breast tissue) but I think it's a great idea (though inconvenient I'm sure) to have it done at the hospital where your doc is confident in the rad. doc's assessment of the results. Did you mention that you are a cancer patient when making the appt.? If not, call them back and Play that cancer card girl!

Ann- Congrats on your good news, and especially for the hope and encouragement it brings! :cheer2:

MinnieM3- Ouch! I hope your leg mends quickly! :flower3:

(((((((((Snappy)))))))))))
Stories like your's and my friend Nik's are finally hitting the news too. How, even if you are blessed to be alive and still have a home there, it's like living in a war zone with no end in sight. It's got to be incredibly difficult (for lack of any better words) to be living like that, on longer, more catastrophic terms than you could have imagined. I'm continuing to pray for you and your family that help and hope and peace and order and rebuilding your land and your lives all come quickly.
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My friend Lisa is finished her brain rads!!! She's fatiqued but doing well. She's had some good times in between with family and a great private date with her hubby! :lovestruc I will see her at our group meeting next week.

Our team (YSC of Greater Balto) for the MD Race for the Cure next month has recruited 108 members so far, beating last year's 82 members and our goal of 100! We've raised almost $10,000 to fight BC!!! :cheer2:

I'm getting better everyday! I'm still tired, but getting around more. Mentally, I want to feel NORMAL, but it's taking a long time physically, so I'm trying to listen to my body and be patient.

I got an incredible DING from Southwest Air the other day and ended up booking a surprise early Dec. trip to WDW! It's just going to be me and the girls (hubby has taken so much time off for me!) for a long weekend (taking one day off school on Monday) and we're going to get tix for MVMCP! The girls have a 1/2 day off school that day and the timing is perfect to drive straight to the airport from school. I'm going to try to keep it a secret until we pick them up and ask them what they want to do the rest of the afternoon...hey, let's go to Disney World!
:banana: :cool1: :flower: :Pinkbounc :cheer2: :jumping1: :dancer: :thewave:
I'm having a blast secretly planning while they're in school... :goodvibes
:grouphug:
 
snappy.....I feel so overwhelmed reading your post (and the accounts in laurabelle's post), it's just staggering....my thougths and prayers are with you, and all those affected... :grouphug: and I'm going to try to e-mail or PM you a question.


laurabelle said:
I'm going to try to keep it a secret until we pick them up and ask them what they want to do the rest of the afternoon...hey, let's go to Disney World!
Oh... that is FANTASTIC!! :teeth:

I will probably be off the boards for a week, DH and I are taking a break...actually I get more of a break then he does (he's going to work Tues, Wed and Thurs next week and take 2 long weekends). Not going far but will not be on my computer.

GAGWTA!!
 
I feel the same way, Ann. I can't imagine... :(

Just wanted to say to snappy, you are amazing, but one thing's for sure - I love that husband of yours (dog story)!! :goodvibes

laura, I'm happy you're going to WDW, what a great time you'll have with your DDs! princess: princess: princess:
 
Thanks guys. I truly was down when I last posted, kind of a pity party,sorry about that. I guess I have my moments. I get mad at myself and feel guilty when I lose patience with the dog or the mess. In the big scheme of things like I said we are lucky. My mother-in-law is a bit confused about things and that makes it difficult. She doesn'g really grasp that her house will have to be gutted at best, probably bulldozed. I heard today that the London Ave levee breach close to her house still has not been repaired. It does not really mater, the damage is done.

I am more up today. One of Al's brothers came by today. His house had comparably little damage. The nieghborhood (Metairie, west of N.O.) looks like a war zone he said. Many huge trees uprooted, others just sheared off at the top, many buildings with walls down, mostly businesses. There is one gas station operating in Kenner. Also, electric poles are all down or leaning big time, but he said the power company is already in there workind. It is amazing. One neighbor who works for the power company leaves at 5 am to drive down to N.O., gets home at 11 pm, they will do this for weeks. They can't sleep down there which would be convenient, security and clean water issues.

Another reason things look brighter-it's my birthday, we are having a barbecue, carrot cake from the best bakery in town. I think I'll even indulge in a glass of wine. My sweet friend gave me a gift certificate for a spa pedicure.

I think I'll wait and use it later when everyone is more settled. The certificate is good til Sept 2010, let's hope things are back to normal by then.
Thanks for giving me somewhere to vent.
 
Snappy.....vent away! That's what we're here for!

Watching Ophelia down here.... it's supposed to hit us as a Cat. 2 on Tuesday. Battening down the hatches. :umbrella:
 
snappy, nothing to apologize for - what you're going through is incomprehensible, but we're here to listen anytime. The devastation is unbelievable. :sad2:

You and I must have the same birthday, Virgo sister. So :bday: :cake: to you, hope you can find a little time during the day to do something nice for yourself as well as remember the fact we've survived another year!! :sunny: :hug:
 
GAGWTA sistas! :sunny:

snappy- I agree with Linda, you have nothing to apologize to your GAGWTA sistas for! Vent away! You are going through so much... I'm glad you can let it out!!!
I'm so happy to hear things are looking brighter everyday!
:bday:

MinnieM3- Stay safe!
:grouphug:
 
Happy Birthday ladies....
one of my grandbabies' turns 1 today, we are making stopping at the party before "running away from home" ;)

Have a great week...
:grouphug: GAGWTA!
 
My birthday was on the ninth, Linda, yours must be today. Have a great birthday. You are right about surviving another year. We did it.

YEA!!! :cheer2:

The paper today had a chart depicting percentage of customers still lacking power

Orleans 99%
Jefferson 55% this is terrific, both of Al's brothers now have power, will have to continue to boil the water for awhile but at least it will be easier. One of my sisters-in-laws is actually staying in the house which we think is a bit crazy.
St. Bernard 99%
St. Tammany 69% (Slidell, Covington, Mandeville)
etc.

The reports of residences being looted are not just rumors. My uncle is at his house in nice area of Marrero (West Jefferson), and several homes behind him were hit. All of the trees behind his house in a wooded area are down, all of them.
Luckily they are quite distant from his house and he never planted trees in his yard. Smart idea.

Hope your Lousisana friend was able to get started back on her chemo, Laura.
Have you heard from her again? Glad Lisa is hanging in there. I need to go check her website again.

GAGWTA!!!
 
Hi everyone,
I've not been on the boards this week. Work has been very busy and I've been researching project work and setting up work for my class at night. I've been very tired and haven't had time to come on here.

Snappy, my thoughts and prayers are with you and all who are struggling to cope with this mind-numbing tragedy. As I watch the news from so far away, I find it hard to comprehend the scale of it all, and the fact that it's happening in your country!

News on my mum - she was notified this week about her operation. She goes into hospital on Monday and will have her mastectomy on Tuesday. It's happening sooner than we thought so at least she'll get it over with rather than dwelling on it for so long. She will stay in hospital for around a week. She's feeling very well, but now getting nervous and apprehensive. Only natural of course! We will all be glad to have this over and done with.

Well, thought I'd check in and say while I was able to.

GAGWTA everyone, I really mean that!

Louise
 
I'll pray for your Mom on Tuesday, Louise. Hope all goes well. It is totally normal to be fearful before breast surgery.

Don't know if it helps but I found that I did not have the pain with my mastectomy like I expected. They did not even give me any pain meds to take home, I just took tylenol and that was all I needed. In the U.S. most insurance only covers it as a day surgery so you are basically out of the hospital within 24-28 hours unless you are having reconstruction. I am not sure if your mom is having that. The most inconvenient thing is not being able to shower until the tubes are removed, mine stayed in for over a month, that was a challenge. Doing the arm strengthening exercises is essential, especially if she had lymph nodes removed.

Again, hope all goes well.
 
Thank you snappy :goodvibes .

I am shocked that this is regarded as a day surgery over there. We don't have the need for health insurance in the UK. We have free health care (funded through our taxes of course). The only thing we pay for is prescription drugs - £6.40 per script ($11).

My mum has opted NOT to have reconstruction but will still be in hospital for a week. Lots of after care is given during her stay and there is no way anyone is sent home within 48 hours. WOW that sounds so fast to me. Just different here I guess. She'll start gentle exercise very soon after surgery as she is having lymph nodes removed. I think she'll meet with a physiotherapist very quickly after her op. I'm not vey sure of details right now to be honest.

Will give updates as I know them this week.

GAGWTA

Louise
 
I found my session with the physical therapist in the hospital very helpful.
There are a number of exercises that help with mobility, you gradually build up. The one that both my doctor and the ladies in my support group still stress is just holding the affected arm over your head several times a dayand opening and closing your fist 20 times. It is something she can and should continue throughout her life to help avoid lymphedema.

Since she is having lymph node removal be sure she gets info on what things )other than exercise) she needs to do to avoid it. My hospital (Women's) gave me a lot of do's and don'ts in both a pre admission packet and in handouts given me before I was discharged. Another large hospital here in town does not provide the same info to BC patients. Info is power.
 
I only had one lymph node removed. They told me to avoid sticks (blood draws and such) and injuries to that arm and be careful when sewing. They said to avoid carrying heavy packages on that side. Other than that they really told me nothing.

Do I not need to worry as much since they only took one? Or am I just totally in the dark? It's been 4 years and I've never had any trouble. Well, once my mom thought my arm looked a little swollen, but I couldn't tell.
 
MerryPoppins said:
I only had one lymph node removed. They told me to avoid sticks (blood draws and such) and injuries to that arm and be careful when sewing. They said to avoid carrying heavy packages on that side. Other than that they really told me nothing.

Do I not need to worry as much since they only took one? Or am I just totally in the dark? It's been 4 years and I've never had any trouble. Well, once my mom thought my arm looked a little swollen, but I couldn't tell.

I have been told that I have more risk (16 nodes) than someone having only 5-6 nodes. I would think the risk is much less with only one removed. I think having radiation can also increase the risk to some degree.

I'll jot down some guidelines from the book Women's gave me.

Lymphedema is swelling that can begin months to years after your surgery. This may be caused by scar tissue hindering the flow of lymph fluid from the arm. If you notice that your arm looks swollen or that your clothes or jewelry feel tighter than usual or that your arm feels heavy call your doctor immediately.

Things to remember from now on if you have had lymph nodes removed.

Break down heavy loads into smaller, lighter ones that you can manage easily (groceries and laundry). Do not try to move heavy furniture without help.

(I never carry grocery bags with my left arm, except for just briefly. I ask the clerks to pack them lighter.)

Break down vacuuming, scrubbing, painting, stirring and similar activities into 10 minute intervals. Avoid forceful repetitive movements during your daily activities or during exercise. (I think this is a bit overkill, I don't comply with it as far as house cleaning goes. For exercise I mostly ride my stationery bike or walk so my arm is not subjected to repetitive movements).

Remind health care providers to take blood and measure blood pressure on the uninvolved side. (I try to do this, once I forgot and my pressure was taken, did not have a problem.) This includes injections and IV's as well.

Wear oven mitts to protect from burns. (I do this anyway).

Wear gloves when gardening or doing housework. (I wear long gloves in the yard, no gloves when cleaning in the house.)

Use an electric razor for shaving. (I do this, my underarm area is so numb, I can't imagine not doing it, I could easily hurt myself).

Use a thimble when sewing. (No sewing here!!!)

Avoid tools that vibrate for extended periods of time, for example lawn and garden equipment. (I do use the leaf blower, for 10-15 minutes maybe).

Avoid cuts and scrapes and bites from insects and pets. (This one I am very aware of). I use oodles of mosquito spray, and I am careful to use antibiotics when I get a small cut, etc.)

Avoid peeling crawfish, shrimp or crabs. (This wouldn't apply to most of you ladies, but I am careful. I did skip crawfish this season. We do cook shrimp, initially my husband peeled them, but I have gone back to doing it. I am careful and I only do a pound or two at a time. I take my time with it. I have not tried peeling crabs.)

Avoid hot tubs and saunas. (I do this.)

Avoid staying in the sun for long periods. (I do this.)

Use sunscreen when outdoors. (I do this.)

Use oven mitts instead of smaller pot holders when reaching into the oven. (I do this.)

Avoid sitting under hot hair dryers for long periods. (Do people still do this??)

Avoid using a heating pad on involved arm. (I don't own one.)

Look for clothing made of cotton or other breathable fabrics for hot weather.
(I have switched over mostly to cotton fabrics due to hot flashes as well.)

Avoid clothing with tight sleeves. Avoid tight watches and jewelry. (I do this, I don't wear rings and bought an inexpensive new watch that is loose).

Elevate the swollen arm when possible. (I do this frequently, whenever I think of it. It is just as important for prevention as it is after the arm is already "swollen". Try to do this three times a day.)

Avoid letting a heavy handbag of shopping bag hang over the involved arm or shoulder. (I bought a new lightweight purse, downsized my wallet. I do not wear even the streamlined one on my left shoulder.)

Lymph circulation will be more efficient if your heart circulation is also efficient. (Another reason to exercise.)

Avoid alcohol and smoking. (I drink just a little alcohol, too much the last 2 weeks, sadly, and do not smoke).

Maintain your ideal weight. (I have a long way to go here.)

Keep your sodium intake at a moderate level (less than 2400 mg/day.) (I am trying, also helps with blood pressure.)

Keep your skin clean and dry. Wash hands frequently. Use moisturizer to avoid cracking and peeling. (I wash my hands a lot. Note to self: use moisturizer.)

If you get a cut, scrape, or other minor break in the skin wash with soap and water, apply antibiotic ointment.

Be aware of signs of infection. Call you doctor IMMEDIATELY if you notice increased swelling, redness (all over or localized small red dots), heat (your arm feels warm), a fever, or pain. It is important to treat infections EARLY.

Stuff from my other brochures about lymphedema:

Heavy protheses may put pressure on the lymph nodes above the collarbone.
Wear a lighter weight prothesis.
Bras should be well-fitted without wire support but with possibly a soft pad under the strap. (This is what I do.)

I also have been told manicures are not wise. I am not a manicure person anyway, so it is not an issue for me. At least be careful with cutting the cuticles.

Sorry this is so long but I included everything I could find. Hope it is helpful.

Some of the guidelines may be overkill, the lymphedema expert I had a free consult with even said that. You have to live your life. Just be vigilant. I bet it is a lot more difficult when nodes are removed on both sides. I feel lucky I am right handed so I mostly use my right hand to lift stuff, housework, etc.
 
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