DD wants a purity ring

[luvsJack]

Then why don't you all wear rings that symbolize not engaging in any type of sin? How about ones for gluttony, swearing , stealing?

You obviously have no wish to understand the ring or its meaning so there is really no point in continuing.

That is a stupid question and you know it.

If you don't want your child wearing a purity ring, here's a clue--don't let them.

But for the ones that choose to wear that ring and make that promise to God, it is very meaningful. If its not what you believe in, that is your choice. But don't knock what you refuse to understand.

 

[chobie]

You obviously have no wish to understand the ring or its meaning so there is really no point in continuing.

That is a stupid question and you know it.

If you don't want your child wearing a purity ring, here's a clue--don't let them.

But for the ones that choose to wear that ring and make that promise to God, it is very meaningful. If its not what you believe in, that is your choice. But don't knock what you refuse to understand.

It's not a stupid question. Why does this potential sin have more importance than others?

And my children's bodies belong to them. I would no more refuse to let them wear a purity ring then I would make them wear one.

Shouldn't WWJD cover this one as well?

I do understand that a female's virginity is considered the upmost importance to some, and I am going to knock it because I believe that type of belief is archaic. And I don't believe for a minute that the overwhelming majority of people who subscribe to this purity worship are as concerned about the boys purity as they are the girls.

 

[luvsJack]

It's not a stupid question. Why does this potential sin have more importance than others?

And my children's bodies belong to them. I would no more refuse to let them wear a purity ring then I would make them wear one.

Yes, it is a stupid question.

A teen is bombarded with pressure to have sex. Its all around them all the time. The churches teach them how to try and not fall to the temptation. They make a promise to God and then wear a ring to symbolize that promise.

I don't think it has more importance. But, it is a hard thing to deal with in a teen's world. So SOME need that symbol to help them get past the temptation.

That doesn't mean the only thing a youth group focuses are these rings or this promise.

You are putting way more importance on someone wearing this ring than there needs to be. Its one small thing in their life.

And I wouldn't force my child to wear a ring either. Its her choice and while she has made the choice to make the promise, she hasn't decided on wearing a ring. That's not up to me, that's between her and God.

 

[chobie]

Yes, it is a stupid question.

A teen is bombarded with pressure to have sex. Its all around them all the time. The churches teach them how to try and not fall to the temptation. They make a promise to God and then wear a ring to symbolize that promise.

I don't think it has more importance. But, it is a hard thing to deal with in a teen's world. So SOME need that symbol to help them get past the temptation.

That doesn't mean the only thing a youth group focuses are these rings or this promise.

You are putting way more importance on someone wearing this ring than there needs to be. Its one small thing in their life.

And I wouldn't force my child to wear a ring either. Its her choice and while she has made the choice to make the promise, she hasn't decided on wearing a ring. That's not up to me, that's between her and God.

There are many temptations out there for teens that could lead to problems, but no one gets a ring for those.

I'm not the one making a big deal of it, the people who believe that this one thing needs its own piece of jewelry (and in some places it's own formal dance) are the ones making a big deal out of it. If this one thing wasn't such a big deal it would not have its own jewelry and rituals (pledges, etc) assigned to it. It would just be like every other sin/moral belief.

If it wasn't that important it wouldn't have jewelry just for that. Kind if like you only get a ring when you are getting engaged, not every date you go on. The ring symbolizes that this relationship is more important than all others.

 

[EMHDad]

It's not a stupid question. Why does this potential sin have more importance than others?

And my children's bodies belong to them. I would no more refuse to let them wear a purity ring then I would make them wear one.

Shouldn't WWJD cover this one as well?

I do understand that a female's virginity is considered the upmost importance to some, and I am going to knock it because I believe that type of belief is archaic. And I don't believe for a minute that the overwhelming majority of people who subscribe to this purity worship are as concerned about the boys purity as they are the girls.

I am a little confused. Are you asking how Jesus would feel about a purity ring? If so, I can give you an educated guess on that.

Second, I do not know your experience with churches that have engaged in sex education of their teenagers. It may be none, or one or many, so I cant speak to your experience. I will tell you that in my experience involved in a few dozen churches, the focus has been on the guys and the girls equally. In my realm on this issue there has been no double standard.

As for as the education itself, the focus is not on virginity. That of course is the ideal before marriage. However, when a committment is made by a person it is to remain pure until marriage. If there have been mistakes in the past, we are thankful that we have a Lord who forgives and renews. If a person messes up, again we have a Lord who forgives and renews.


I am also a little confused. Is your issue with the youth requesting and wearing a 'purity ring? Is it with the jewelry? Or is it concerning the who issue of sex education involved with these 'purity rings'?

 

[luvsJack]

There are many temptations out there for teens that could lead to problems, but no one gets a ring for those.

I'm not the one making a big deal of it, the people who believe that this one thing needs its own piece of jewelry (and in some places it's own formal dance) are the ones making a big deal out of it. If this one thing wasn't such a big deal it would not have its own jewelry and rituals (pledges, etc) assigned to it. It would just be like every other sin/moral belief.

If it wasn't that important it wouldn't have jewelry just for that. Kind if like you only get a ring when you are getting engaged, not every date you go on. The ring symbolizes that this relationship is more important than all others.

Like I said, its not something you will understand because its not something you want to understand.


No one has to wear the ring. Just like no one had to wear the WWJD bracelets. Its a personal choice. The ring is of little importance--its the commitment behind that ring that is important. Is it really that hard to grasp?

 

[chobie]

Like I said, its not something you will understand because its not something you want to understand.

No one has to wear the ring. Just like no one had to wear the WWJD bracelets. Its a personal choice. The ring is of little importance--its the commitment behind that ring that is important. Is it really that hard to grasp?

I just don't understand why there isn't a ring for other things kids should be committed to. Why does this one get its own ring?

Why do some people deem this temptation more needing a piece of jewelry to remind them not to indulge?

 

[mhsjax]

I just don't understand why there isn't a ring for other things kids should be committed to. Why does this one get its own ring?

Why do some people deem this temptation more needing a piece of jewelry to remind them not to indulge?

Why do people of the Jewish faith wear the Star of David, why do Christians wear a cross, why do husband and wife wear a wedding band? They are all just outward symbols that some choose to wear, no big deal.

 

[chobie]

I am a little confused. Are you asking how Jesus would feel about a purity ring? If so, I can give you an educated guess on that.

Second, I do not know your experience with churches that have engaged in sex education of their teenagers. It may be none, or one or many, so I cant speak to your experience. I will tell you that in my experience involved in a few dozen churches, the focus has been on the guys and the girls equally. In my realm on this issue there has been no double standard.

As for as the education itself, the focus is not on virginity. That of course is the ideal before marriage. However, when a committment is made by a person it is to remain pure until marriage. If there have been mistakes in the past, we are thankful that we have a Lord who forgives and renews. If a person messes up, again we have a Lord who forgives and renews.

I am also a little confused. Is your issue with the youth requesting and wearing a 'purity ring? Is it with the jewelry? Or is it concerning the who issue of sex education involved with these 'purity rings'?

It's the whole idea that having sex makes one impure.

The fact that there even exists a "purity" ring is creepy IMO.

Should children be taught abstinence along with a comprehensive sex education? Yes, I'm fine with that. Should they be making jewelry for kids to broadcast their abstinent state? No, I think it's creepy.

 

[chobie]

Why do people of the Jewish faith wear the Star of David, why do Christians wear a cross, why do husband and wife wear a wedding band? They are all just outward symbols that some choose to wear, no big deal.

Actually, one's faith and one's marriage are pretty big deals to most people and that is why they symbolize it and want the world to know those things about themselves.

People symbolizing marriage with a ring is how many centuries old? People spend a lot of money on the wedding rings, it's not a little thing.

It's not like someone who wears a Star of David can just take it off because they don't feel like being Jewish that day. Or if they take their wedding ring off and sleep with another person that would not be considered a huge deal (at least to the person they are cheating on).

 

[luvsJack]

I just don't understand why there isn't a ring for other things kids should be committed to. Why does this one get its own ring?

Why do some people deem this temptation more needing a piece of jewelry to remind them not to indulge?

Why do some people need to wear a wedding ring? I don't wear one. I know that I am married, I don't need something to remind me. Dh doesn't wear one either. Some people find it important, we don't.

Dd has a cross necklace that was given to her when she was baptized. She wears it all the time to show her faith and she feels that wearing that cross protects her spiritually. Some kids wear necklaces or bracelets made from nails to remind them of the sacrifice that Jesus made. Some still wear the WWJD bracelets or something similar. Some wear angel pins. There ARE all kinds of jewelry pieces that signify someone's faith and their commitment to God.

It is a symbol. That is all it is. If they need a symbol to remind them of their promise, then that is totally up to them. If they don't, that's ok to.

 

[chobie]

Why do some people need to wear a wedding ring? I don't wear one. I know that I am married, I don't need something to remind me. Dh doesn't wear one either. Some people find it important, we don't.

Dd has a cross necklace that was given to her when she was baptized. She wears it all the time to show her faith and she feels that wearing that cross protects her spiritually. Some kids wear necklaces or bracelets made from nails to remind them of the sacrifice that Jesus made. Some still wear the WWJD bracelets or something similar. Some wear angel pins. There ARE all kinds of jewelry pieces that signify someone's faith and their commitment to God.

It is a symbol. That is all it is. If they need a symbol to remind them of their promise, then that is totally up to them. If they don't, that's ok to.

Yes, but this not having sex is the only other commitment that people seemed to need to have a ring to remind them self of. People don't wear wedding rings to remind them they are married or Stars of David to remind themself they are Jewish.

Staying sexually pure is the only sin that has its own jewelry. So, it must be more important than not stealing, not taking the Lord's name in vain, not coveting thy neighbor's wife etc.

 

[EMHDad]

It's the whole idea that having sex makes one impure.

The fact that there even exists a "purity" ring is creepy IMO.

Should children be taught abstinence along with a comprehensive sex education? Yes, I'm fine with that. Should they be making jewelry for kids to broadcast their abstinent state? No, I think it's creepy.

I understand that you think it is creepy. Others on here do as well. However, as one who has made committments to my Lord, help youth do, and hope my sons do at some point, proclaiming a desire to wait for marriage is an inspiring and powerful message. I dont see anything creepy (if handled in a respectful & appropriate way) to publically proclaim that you want to wait for marriage, that you understand sex is meant to be between a husband and wife and you wish not to cheapen that by engaging in premarital sex.

 

[chobie]

I understand that you think it is creepy. Others on here do as well. However, as one who has made committments to my Lord, help youth do, and hope my sons do at some point, proclaiming a desire to wait for marriage is an inspiring and powerful message. I dont see anything creepy (if handled in a respectful & appropriate way) to publically proclaim that you want to wait for marriage, that you understand sex is meant to be between a husband and wife and you wish not to cheapen that by engaging in premarital sex.

I no more want to see public proclamations about not having sex than I do public proclamations about having sex. Both TMI.

 

[luvsJack]

Yes, but this not having sex is the only other commitment that people seemed to need to have a ring to remind them self of. People don't wear wedding rings to remind them they are married or Stars of David to remind themself they are Jewish.

Staying sexually pure is the only sin that has its own jewelry. So, it must be more important than not stealing, not taking the Lord's name in vain, not coveting thy neighbor's wife etc.

I can't speak for someone of the Jewish faith but I am going to assume they do not wear the Star of David to remind them. They wear it to symbolize their faith.

The wedding ring SYMBOLIZES a commitment to the spouse. You make a promise before God to be true to that person in sickness, health and so on and so forth. So, it is in fact a symbol. Just like the purity ring.

The cross dd wears isn't the actual cross that Jesus died on. But it symbolizes His love for her to her and it symbolizes her faith. And I am sure there have been times when that cross reminded her not to do something she should. Again, same thing.

 

[luvsJack]

I no more want to see public proclamations about not having sex than I do public proclamations about having sex. Both TMI.

Then, that is your choice. Others make a different choice.

 

[chobie]

I can't speak for someone of the Jewish faith but I am going to assume they do not wear the Star of David to remind them. They wear it to symbolize their faith.

The wedding ring SYMBOLIZES a commitment to the spouse. You make a promise before God to be true to that person in sickness, health and so on and so forth. So, it is in fact a symbol. Just like the purity ring.

The cross dd wears isn't the actual cross that Jesus died on. But it symbolizes His love for her to her and it symbolizes her faith. And I am sure there have been times when that cross reminded her not to do something she should. Again, same thing.

Right, and not having sex is as big of a deal as one's marriage and faith. It warrants its own ring, whereas all the other values and sins can just be wrapped up together with a WWJD bracelet or cross.

 

[luvmy3]

I understand that you think it is creepy. Others on here do as well. However, as one who has made committments to my Lord, help youth do, and hope my sons do at some point, proclaiming a desire to wait for marriage is an inspiring and powerful message. I dont see anything creepy (if handled in a respectful & appropriate way) to publically proclaim that you want to wait for marriage, that you understand sex is meant to be between a husband and wife and you wish not to cheapen that by engaging in premarital sex.

Actually it only shows what their "faith" tells them what sex is supposed to be. Judging by the statement above I'm pretty sure they don't fully understand what it means between 2 people who love eachother that aren't married.

 

[chobie]

Then, that is your choice. Others make a different choice.

I make that choice because one's sex life, or lack there of, should be private. JMO. But I won't try to pass laws to or constitutional amendments to prevent others from making their choice.

 

[ford family]

I can't speak for someone of the Jewish faith but I am going to assume they do not wear the Star of David to remind them. They wear it to symbolize their faith.

The wedding ring SYMBOLIZES a commitment to the spouse. You make a promise before God to be true to that person in sickness, health and so on and so forth. So, it is in fact a symbol. Just like the purity ring.

The cross dd wears isn't the actual cross that Jesus died on. But it symbolizes His love for her to her and it symbolizes her faith. And I am sure there have been times when that cross reminded her not to do something she should. Again, same thing.

Many people choose to have a civil wedding and wear wedding rings. There is no God involved. That is their choice and you should not denigrate that choice by assuming everybody shares your particular personal belief system.

ford family