nikkistevej
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- May 30, 2004
DCL + Hawaii= paradise. I would book!
ITA!!! Sounds sooo nice!!
DCL + Hawaii= paradise. I would book!
Do you only want to sail TO Hawaii in May 2012?I'd certainly rather sail DCL to Hawaii for my 20th wedding anniversary so DCL crew please decide now and post this as factual ASAP as 2012 is now only 1 year away and I need time to pay for it!
Do you only want to sail TO Hawaii in May 2012?
Or would you be happy with a 2-week sailing from Los Angeles to Vancouver VIA Hawaii (with most of the itinerary consisting of days at sea) in May 2012?
I'd fly over the day before and fly out the day of disembarkation, I don't think I'd even be able to stay at their new resort on the island (unless it was a short cruise and then I could do a land /sea package).
If you read this whole thread, you'll learn that Disney cannot legally operate a 7-night cruise that begins in Los Angeles and ends in Hawaii.
So, if that's what you're waiting for, it isn't going to happen.
A stop in Ensenada would satisfy the foreign port requirement of the PVSA only for a cruise that begins and ends at the SAME U.S. port.Sure they can. It's not probable or economically feasable, but it definitely is possible to stop in Ensenada.
A stop in Ensenada would satisfy the foreign port requirement of the PVSA only for a cruise that begins and ends at the SAME U.S. port.
However, if a cruise begins at one U.S. port and ends at a DIFFERENT U.S. port, the PVSA requires calling a DISTANT foreign port as part of the cruise. Ensenada is not considered a DISTANT foreign port, as defined by the PVSA.
A one-way cruise from Los Angeles to Honolulu on a DCL ship would have to stop somewhere that qualifies, such as South America, the South Pacific, or Asia. That would be impossible on the 7-night itinerary. Cruise ships cannot go fast enough to cover such a distance in one week.
So, I stand by what I wrote: Disney cannot legally operate a 7-night cruise that begins in Los Angeles and ends in Hawaii.
Yes. And being "U.S. flagged" takes a lot more than just hoisting the Stars and Stripes up the mast.DCL also can't do 7-night roundtrip cruises from Hawaii. Only one ship does that: NCL's Pride of America - a US-flagged ship.
Yes. And being "U.S. flagged" takes a lot more than just hoisting the Stars and Stripes up the mast.
It means having a ship built in a U.S. shipyard (although the Pride of America was only partially built at a U.S. shipyard). it means operating with U.S. officers and crew under U.S. labor laws. And that means higher operating costs and less flexible work rules for the cruise line.
NCL's attempt to get into the business of "U.S. flagged" cruises is a business failure.
There will not be a DCL cruise originating from Honolulu -- at least not intra-Hawaii cruises or Hawaii-to-U.S.-mainland cruises.I just found this post and YES I'm excited. I would definately be interested in booking a DCL trip from Honolulu.
There will not be a DCL cruise originating from Honolulu -- at least not intra-Hawaii cruises or Hawaii-to-U.S.-mainland cruises.
DCL has to deal with the realities of U.S. law. (Please read some of preceding posts, which touch on the reasons.)
Laws change, money makes a difference, especially when you're in such a hurting economy...you'd be amazed what 'could' happen...to say there will not be a DCL cruise is not allowing for change in policies, which do happen.
Don't rule out Disney buying their own "Castaway Cay" and creating new laws! What's a Dream without imagination
Tara
Sure they can. It's not probable or economically feasable, but it definitely is possible to stop in Ensenada.
DCL couldn't get Glacier Bay permits in Alaska, so don't expect them to get maritime laws changed so they can cruise in Hawaii!
The law is from 1886.Laws change, money makes a difference, especially when you're in such a hurting economy...you'd be amazed what 'could' happen...to say there will not be a DCL cruise is not allowing for change in policies, which do happen.
The former Pride of Aloha is once again called the Norwegian Sky. She is no longer U.S. flagged. In fact, she was only the U.S.-flagged Pride of Aloha from 2004 to 2008.Pride of Aloha, the former Norwegian Sky, entered year-round Hawaii service on July 4, 2004 following a re-flagging ceremony which added her to the U.S. registry. Her seven-day Hawaiian itineraries sail round-trip from Honolulu year-round on Sundays. The port intensive route calls at Nawiliwili, Kauai (overnight); Hilo, Hawaii; Kona, Hawaii and Kahului, Maui (overnight). The ship is in port every day and offers scenic cruising on Tuesday afternoon and evening.