DCA needs CPR...

roymccoy

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The family and I went over to DCA today and I have these updated observations. (I have to say that no one in the group was real thrilled with going there instead of DL and I think that this goes directly to the problem of the park...no one really likes it enough to return again and again.) The Hollywood Backlot area is DCA's version of DL's Tomorrowland..there's nothing there! Now that the Soap Opera Bistro is closed and the Hyperion is closed and the Superstar Limo is closed and the Hollywood and Dine is closed, there isn't a lot there. Bug's Land was almost empty...no savior there. The Lucky Fortune Cookery is still closed over at the Wharf.

You know the Chicken Strip place over in Paradise Pier? Well, now they offer fish n' chips, too. That's a good thing BUT the chicken strips that used to be the nice, big plump pieces of breast meat chicken are now pressed and formed strips...you know, like the ones in the Swanson TV dinners? Also, when I asked for an extra sauce (how dare I...I only paid $7.99 for the strips and chips) I was told, with glee, that extra sauces were $ .59 each. I passed. The ranch dressing is so thin that it won't stick to the strips...it just runs off. Cheap, cheap, cheap.

The employees have also been to some sort of class or something where they learned that they probably don't take the AP's for a discount. I guess Disney was getting tired of giving the 10% in restaurants and stores that didn't have the discount.

The ride operators are now FANATICAL about the height requirement. My 3 1/2 year old was denied riding on River Rapids and Soaring. She is a solid 42". She has been riding those rides for at least a couple of months but three different employees gleefully told her that she was too short. I guess OSHA is getting on them or something.

We saw a new X-mas themed "truck band" driving around...that was sure cost effective. Also, they are building some sand sculpture thing by the big sun when you walk in. They're calling it "Holiday Beach Party"...I call it "what can we do that doesn't cost us anything."

Anyway, nothing much going on over at DCA.

Roy
 
LOL - I got a laugh from your post - I know it wasn't meant to be funny but is it so pathetically true that it is funny.
Backlot is sad - when I walk through there I feel sorry for the whole area. Closed attractions and eateries - I know they have plans for getting it back up to snuff but right now it is sad.
You should have just spend the whole day at FFF since it was uncrowded! LOL!! ROFLMAO!!!!!
 
Roy -
You could have ridden Hiemlichs Chew Chew train around 40 or 50 times to spice up the day - oh wait - that would have only take 20 minutes. LOL!!!
 
thanks for mentioning height...My twins were premature and are a little small, one is 42 inches but the other is 41 1/2 so we are going now to shop for shoes that raise him up that extra 1/2 inch..And they are 5!Thanks
 

Yeah, they are definitely being more picky and exact about the height requirements. I would suggest getting some sort of pads to go in the shoes for the kids who are borderline on height. If the height is close, you're going to lose. I would say that the policy got stricter within the last couple of weeks. We were challenged HARD at all rides with the height requirement. At the River Rapids, my 3 1/2 year old came right up to the top of the sign and he said that she was raising her chin up. He made her put her chin down (it was almost touching her chest) and then her measurement went to being maybe a pencil width from the top. You couldn't get a finger in there. He said "I'm sorry" and went for one of those "Future Rider" stickers. I told him that we had been on the ride before and she had had no problem. He said "I'm sorry." I asked to speak to a supervisor, which he danced off with glee to retrieve (I'm not kidding about the "glee" thing...all day long the employees were acting like that couldn't wait to turn kids away.) The supervisor came out and measured her again and said "sorry." I told them that I thought that they were "over-doing" it and they told me that rules are rules. What I didn't appreciate was the fact that my daughter didn't understand why she could go on one time and then not the next. She thought that she had done something wrong. That was such an "unDisney" experience that it makes me sick. Hopefully, they will back off that policy a little.

Roy

(Wasn't one of the biggest gripes about DCA from people that it wasn't kid friendly? Wasn't that the reason for FFF? The DCA we just went to was DEFINITELY NOT kid friendly.)
 
Isn't Soaring a 40 inch ride or did they change that from last year?
 
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Now that the Soap Opera Bistro is closed and the Hyperion is closed and the Superstar Limo is closed and the Hollywood and Dine is closed, there isn't a lot there. Bug's Land was almost empty...no savior there. The Lucky Fortune Cookery is still closed over at the Wharf.


Is this all permanent? Why am I going? Is DL Park enough to keep two WDW vets busy for 2 1/2 days? I keep reading bad reports on DCA.
 
1) The Hyperion is being readied for Aladdin. I worked with the costume designer for this show (on an unrelated project), and it should be very cool.
2) Soap Opera Bistro is being converted to the Playhouse Disney show (from MGM) Mitchell, a former Jungle Skipper and PDL Emcee from WDW (and a heck of a cool guy) is going to be a part of the DCA version.
3) As far as the height requirement thing goes, if she's too short now, but was "ok" last time, the CM who measured last time was not doing their job properly and, consequently risked putting your child in great danger. The height requirements are not meant as personal attacks or arbitrarily assigned, they are there to insure the safety of everyone who rides. Harnesses, seats, and lap bar sizes tend to determine the required heights, as do lateral forces, and a 40" kid in 2" shoes could be injured very badly. Speaking as a CM who has had to measure height before, it's no bag of candy, and I don't know anyone who enjoys turning people away (funny that you didn't interpret the attitude displayed while going to get a supervisor as an eagerness to give you the assistance you needed...)
Oh, and since when is sand (and sculptors) free? Must be a CA thing...
 
Our last two visits we've gone to the cart at DL where they measure you electronically and give you a wristband; DS2 got a yellow wristband for being 35 inches tall & he could ride Gagets and the Matterhorn. You just show the wristband to the CMs and they don't measure over & over. I don't know if they give out the wristbands at CA; but they are supposed to honor them. If you have an AP it might be worth running into DL to get the wristband, to avoid inconsistent CMs.

Roy, sorry to hear about your daughter . . . reminds me of being at IOA in Orlando and having a child able to ride a log ride with a 46" requirement but not a raft ride with a 48" requirement . . . didn't make any sense!!!

:Pinkbounc
 
Where did anyone say anything about 2 inch heels. I know I didn't. I mentioned less than an inch. Do I want my child hurt, of course not. Do I want CMS to do their job properly and measure my kids properly, yes. Do I think its a bit mean for some CMs to turn kids away if they are right there and by that I meana couple of centimeters, yes. I sure do hope they have that wristband thing going. Sometimes customers get upset and want/need to talk to a supervisor, so what. After all its customers like me paying thousands into the local economy that keep thing going. Personally I like DCA and plan on being there the first day of our trip.:D I look forward to FFF and Aladdin and seeing the place with lights and wreaths:Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc :Pinkbounc
 
Our family really enjoys DCA - although I understand it's not for everyone. With a two year old, it's really hard to find things that hold his attention. When we go to DCA, we typically go there to get away from the DL crowds while still enjoying the experience of being at a Disney property. My son loves the Electrical Parade, the FFF water area, the sun/fountain area, the Eureka Parade (during the summer) and Stomp (when it was there). We adults love, of course, Soarin', California Screamin' and the Grizzly Rapids Run. While we probably wouldn't pay for a separate admission to get in there, we definitely find it has added value to our DL AP. In fact, it ensures that we'll renew again this year as it has made holiday jaunts to DL very enjoyable.

Having said all of that, we're looking forward to the Aladdin show and all of the upgrades. DCA is not DL - not by a longshot - just like Disney Studios is no Magic Kingdom and AK is no Epcot. Disney is improving all of them, though. When DL first opened 47 years ago there was no Small World, Indy, HM or POC - it took a long time and sustained support by Disneynuts like us. I have faith in Disney to bring all these properties - even if slowly - up to the level of quality and magic we have come to expect. I also appreciate those who keep challenging Disney to bring up the level of quality and magic.


Just my $0.02 worth...
 
SafariSteve...I understand your comments and I can appreciate your loyalty to Disney but, as a guest, I can tell you that the height requirements can sometimes be an argued point. My daughter touched the bottom of the sign when she stood under it on Grizzly Rapids but the CM told her to lower her chin and then she missed the height by probably an eighth of an inch and was denied from going on the ride. I had my wife measure me and I'm 6' tall....when I lower my chin I can "shrink" two inches.

Also, please don't patronize me for "putting my child in danger". Much of the time, the Disney height requirements make no sense. My 3 1/2 year old can ride Space Mountain but she can't ride the bumper cars at FFF, supposedly built for kids. She can ride the Matterhorn but she can't ride the Grizzly Rapid Ride. She can ride Splash Mountain but she can't ride Mullholland Madness, a kids roller coaster.
Heimlich's Chew Chew Train has more seatbelts than the space shuttle and never goes over 2 miles an hour but the Ferris Wheel has no seat belts and flopped around so much that my daughter was thrown to the floor. Hey, what about the tram in the parking lot? I've seen people fall out of that but there's no seatbelts and no height restriction.

A lot of times Disney's height restrictions don't make sense and are contradictory. Please forgive us, the parents and guests, for trying to be sensible. Since the height requirements DON'T make sense a lot of the time, we parents have had to take matters in our own hands and decide on a case by case basis if our children should go on a ride. Even though Disney says my daughter can go on the Matterhorn, I don't let her go yet. Also, I think Space Mountain is too fast and jerky for her little neck. On the other hand, I see no problem with Grizzly Rapids and Soarin' which Disney says she can't ride. Why doesn't Disney base it's height restrictions in reality? We might take them a little more seriously.

Roy
 
I was not patronizing anyone, nor did I mean that anyone involved in this thread had suggested using large platform shoes (although that was an example of something that I have seen on the job that is unacceptable and dangerous.) There was once a very un-Disneylike person who worked (for a time) at Splash Mountain. Although I don't think I would use his wording while on the job, he summed it up nicely when he said "If this child goes on this ride and dies, she'd better measure 42" when they lay her out on the autopsy table." --- again, not my words , but I think that it does justice to the fact that if something ( God Forbid! ) horrible happens, it is Disney --and in particular the CM who OK'd it-- who is responsible, and that is something that I know no one wants to have to deal with. I have seen a CM get a major reprimand for "letting it slide", because doing so is irresponsible. I am not patronizing, just trying to give a different perspective... and while it can hurt your feelings to be turned away (I remember being that short kid... I'm still not that tall), the CMs certainly do not enjoy it (there are always exceptions, I'm sure, but the vast majority of us have hearts.)
 
I just read Roy's last paragraph.... ummmm, nevermind. It all makes perfect sense now.


hmmmmmmmmm.....
 
You know what makes me MADDEST about this dead-on article?? That
DCA only cost $650 million to build!! What happened to the 3 Billion
number that Disney was throwing around?? I could have told them
that they couldn't build a decent DL quality theme park for $650
million! Didn't Indiana Jones and Soaring over California cost $70
million each by themselves?? Did you see the line about TokyoSea
costing 3 billion? $650 million vs. $3,000,000,000....hmmmmm...I
wonder why DCA isn't making it? And just think, a majority of the
$650 million went towards restaurants and shops.

And it was nice to see that someone besides us can figure out that
Paul Pressler wasn't the man for the parks. He's a retail guy and DCA
looks like a giant Disney Store, Surprise Surprise! CBS Marketwatch
may think that they have a scoop on DCA but if you've been on these
boards for awhile, this stuff is old news.


Roy
 


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