DAS changes coming WDW May 20/ DL June 18, 2024

[PrincessV]

have you ever asked CMs at attractions for anything?
sometimes they're super nice. Sometimes they're not.

I have, and do - often! And I agree: CMs are human and sometimes will have an off day or off moment. But by and large, I find that they want to help if they can. Even when one recently wasn’t particularly pleasant with me, they still helped with what I needed. If it’s the difference between your SIL staying at the resort and having a lousy time vs. potentially enjoying himself on a ride of his choice, isn’t it worth asking? The worst they can say is no.

I am thankful for kindly given tips like this. I bet lots of us are reading and making a notes of suggestions and ideas for our next trip that might make the days easier.

Yes! I’ve learned more about G+ here than I have over a couple years of… okay, mostly ignoring all threads about it lol! I still probably won’t ever use it, but at least I’ve got a better understanding of it for when out of town friends ask me about it.

 

[CAPSLOCK]

why don't you go into the line with your husband?
I don't ride lots of rides, but i always stay in line with my family.

I'm with @Mackenzie Click-Mickelson - I ride everything, but my friend doesn't go on rides with big drops. She never waits in line for something she's not riding. Why should she wait in line for something she's not riding, when she could be shopping, in the arcade, sitting on a bench, spotting those little FL lizards, occasionally even going on another ride, etc - pretty much all better than standing in a line.

Wouldn't Attraction Queue Return work for your SIL? He can wait comfortably on a bench, meander between the rides at his speed, etc, then rejoin at the merge.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

The more I think about it the more I think rope dropping and then stacking Genie+ is actually a better alternative than old DAS/new AQR because if he has a limited window in which he may feel up for being in the parks, it would allow him to maximize the number of rides in a given day (rather than waiting out the SB time each ride in the afternoon). Different from what you are used to but I truly do see a way that it could work, based on what you have said above.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

we were at universal in 2022, the line for hagrids was insanely long.
even with early entry, by the time we walked there with the toddlers in tow, the line was already 2 hours
so we walked over to velocicoaster which only had a 10 minute line (i didn't ride, i stayed with the toddlers in the switch room)
it wasn't on express pass yet, but it was early entry and everyone else was in hagrid's line

we also get the express pass (we like royal pacific)..
it makes everything much much much much easier!!!!!

i also can't ride space mountain anymore
i went on it in 2022 and the ride was so much rougher than i remember, or else my internal springs aren't very springy anymore...

as for motion sickness, have you tried seabands?
they're what some people use for cruises, but they also work for regular motion sickness.
i began using them for a cruise back in 2012
i was shocked at how well they worked for me, much better than medicine ever did.
and we got caught in hurricane sandy, so it was a really really really really really rocky ride (i swore i'd never cruise again, but yeah, of course i have many times since then)...
anyway, try seabands. They supposedly work on about 2/3 of the people who try them.
and they help me even on rides that i couldn't ride before because of motion sickness (like the carousel and tea cups!!!!!)

I got seabands for our cruise last year although historically I don't get sea sick and didn't use them for that I wanted them with me. They work for some symptoms and triggers of my motion sickness but not others from what I've experimented with. They help with the nausea and I figured they would based on how I've used that pressure point myself when I've needed to but not necessarily on vertigo or dizziness. I had to break out the seabands on our Uber ride for this Europe trip we went on as we flew to LaGuardia a day ahead but we flew out of JFK so we booked a hotel room near JFK. A 40 min stop go stop go weave in and out of traffic Uber ride had me about halfway through about to get sick so that pressure point to reduce nausea was really needed (had also gotten a headache and was very flushed I guess you could describe it) and my husband saw that. I was so happy to get out of that car when I did. I had to lie down for a bit afterwards and luckily it was late enough that the hotel room was ready.

I def. wouldn't mind bringing the seabands with us on our next trip and trying it out I mean no harm done whatsoever by keeping them on especially as I'm used to them now (they probably will help on Tron, kinda nervous about trying that out) but I do also know my limit. Spinning rides no matter what are just out (I did try Guardians but was so thankful it malfunctioned halfway through), high drops are very hard for me to do but that also is part fear part how it make my body feel but I can attempt Splash or Ripsaw Falls depending on how I'm feeling, upside down rides are a no. I did try Expedition Everest once but that backwards portion really got to me and for our Europe train trip we tried as hard as we possible could to buy tickets that allowed us to switch seats (so we got ones across from each other instead of side by side) when the direction of travel was unknown (which was most of it). The seabands don't help me with that backwards part I found out but they did help me when we were on a train from Belgium to Luxembourg going through France stopping 16 times, the frequent stopping triggered the motion sickness about halfway through. I tried bonine in 2017 and it made me too tired so I stopped using when I kept falling asleep at the parks .

I did find that my first time around on FOP in 2017 I had my eyes closed for about 95% of it but was able to do it twice in 2022 with most of the time my eyes being opened. Something I did differently in 2022 that helped me out for noises might have also helped in that respect. I got petite sized foam ear plugs (that aren't perfect due to the shape of my ear and ear canal but help none the less), those were very helpful for the loud (for me that is) portions of rides like 7DMT (in the gem cave part of the incline) or the TNT part of BTMRR, even the Liberty Square Boat for the horn.

About 10 years ago I went into urgent care for a sinus infection (which was common for me to have at least once a year prior to the pandemic) and the nurse said "oh my you have windy and twisty and small ear canals" first time I had been told that but I do believe that likely has a direct effect on how I get affected by motion sickness and how loud noises are painful for me.

I did purchase ginger gum for the cruise last year but didn't end up needing/trying that but that's something others have recommended.

That's great you could do spinning cups and the carousel

ETA: Oh and on EP yeah I think my husband and I found we LOVED having it, it was the first trip we did with it whereas other trips we didn't have it. We did a split stay with Royal Pacific for one night (and what a beautiful resort that is isn't it?) and then 2 nights at Endless Summer, worked perfectly! I could see us doing a split stay again

 

[jjpet]

I got seabands for our cruise last year although historically I don't get sea sick and didn't use them for that I wanted them with me. They work for some symptoms and triggers of my motion sickness but not others from what I've experimented with. They help with the nausea and I figured they would based on how I've used that pressure point myself when I've needed to but not necessarily on vertigo or dizziness. I had to break out the seabands on our Uber ride for this Europe trip we went on as we flew to LaGuardia a day ahead but we flew out of JFK so we booked a hotel room near JFK. A 40 min stop go stop go weave in and out of traffic Uber ride had me about halfway through about to get sick so that pressure point to reduce nausea was really needed (had also gotten a headache and was very flushed I guess you could describe it) and my husband saw that. I was so happy to get out of that car when I did. I had to lie down for a bit afterwards and luckily it was late enough that the hotel room was ready.

I def. wouldn't mind bringing the seabands with us on our next trip and trying it out I mean no harm done whatsoever by keeping them on especially as I'm used to them now (they probably will help on Tron, kinda nervous about trying that out) but I do also know my limit. Spinning rides no matter what are just out (I did try Guardians but was so thankful it malfunctioned halfway through), high drops are very hard for me to do but that also is part fear part how it make my body feel but I can attempt Splash or Ripsaw Falls depending on how I'm feeling, upside down rides are a no. I did try Expedition Everest once but that backwards portion really got to me and for our Europe train trip we tried as hard as we possible could to buy tickets that allowed us to switch seats (so we got ones across from each other instead of side by side) when the direction of travel was unknown (which was most of it). The seabands don't help me with that backwards part I found out but they did help me when we were on a train from Belgium to Luxembourg going through France stopping 16 times, the frequent stopping triggered the motion sickness about halfway through. I tried bonine in 2017 and it made me too tired so I stopped using when I kept falling asleep at the parks .

I did find that my first time around on FOP in 2017 I had my eyes closed for about 95% of it but was able to do it twice in 2022 with most of the time my eyes being opened. Something I did differently in 2022 that helped me out for noises might have also helped in that respect. I got petite sized foam ear plugs (that aren't perfect due to the shape of my ear and ear canal but help none the less), those were very helpful for the loud (for me that is) portions of rides like 7DMT (in the gem cave part of the incline) or the TNT part of BTMRR, even the Liberty Square Boat for the horn.

About 10 years ago I went into urgent care for a sinus infection (which was common for me to have at least once a year prior to the pandemic) and the nurse said "oh my you have windy and twisty and small ear canals" first time I had been told that but I do believe that likely has a direct effect on how I get affected by motion sickness and how loud noises are painful for me.

I did purchase ginger gum for the cruise last year but didn't end up needing/trying that but that's something others have recommended.

That's great you could do spinning cups and the carousel

ETA: Oh and on EP yeah I think my husband and I found we LOVED having it, it was the first trip we did with it whereas other trips we didn't have it. We did a split stay with Royal Pacific for one night (and what a beautiful resort that is isn't it?) and then 2 nights at Endless Summer, worked perfectly! I could see us doing a split stay again

Have you seen/tried the moldable wax ear plugs? They are technically designed for swimmers, but we were at DLR without a vehicle and needed to buy what was onsite and that was all they had in the gift shop, so our sensory/sound-sensitive son gave them a try and he LOVED them. He didn't tolerate regular ear plugs well because he didn't like the feel. He described them as dampening the sound without cutting everything out completely, so he didn't feel he was missing out on things going on around him... they just took the edge off. Might be a good option for you? I had never heard of them before, so wanted to share.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

spotting those little FL lizards

I know strange to take this part of your comment to mention but ever since a DISer couple who lived temporarily where we live moved down to Orlando they talk a lot about the iguanas and lizards roaming around their property and we get random pictures about it on our 2022 trip I did find myself looking around to see if I could find any of them so it's funny you mentioned that's what your friend does.

 

[disneyholic family]

I got seabands for our cruise last year although historically I don't get sea sick and didn't use them for that I wanted them with me. They work for some symptoms and triggers of my motion sickness but not others from what I've experimented with. They help with the nausea and I figured they would based on how I've used that pressure point myself when I've needed to but not necessarily on vertigo or dizziness. I had to break out the seabands on our Uber ride for this Europe trip we went on as we flew to LaGuardia a day ahead but we flew out of JFK so we booked a hotel room near JFK. A 40 min stop go stop go weave in and out of traffic Uber ride had me about halfway through about to get sick so that pressure point to reduce nausea was really needed (had also gotten a headache and was very flushed I guess you could describe it) and my husband saw that. I was so happy to get out of that car when I did. I had to lie down for a bit afterwards and luckily it was late enough that the hotel room was ready.

I def. wouldn't mind bringing the seabands with us on our next trip and trying it out I mean no harm done whatsoever by keeping them on especially as I'm used to them now (they probably will help on Tron, kinda nervous about trying that out) but I do also know my limit. Spinning rides no matter what are just out (I did try Guardians but was so thankful it malfunctioned halfway through), high drops are very hard for me to do but that also is part fear part how it make my body feel but I can attempt Splash or Ripsaw Falls depending on how I'm feeling, upside down rides are a no. I did try Expedition Everest once but that backwards portion really got to me and for our Europe train trip we tried as hard as we possible could to buy tickets that allowed us to switch seats (so we got ones across from each other instead of side by side) when the direction of travel was unknown (which was most of it). The seabands don't help me with that backwards part I found out but they did help me when we were on a train from Belgium to Luxembourg going through France stopping 16 times, the frequent stopping triggered the motion sickness about halfway through. I tried bonine in 2017 and it made me too tired so I stopped using when I kept falling asleep at the parks .

I did find that my first time around on FOP in 2017 I had my eyes closed for about 95% of it but was able to do it twice in 2022 with most of the time my eyes being opened. Something I did differently in 2022 that helped me out for noises might have also helped in that respect. I got petite sized foam ear plugs (that aren't perfect due to the shape of my ear and ear canal but help none the less), those were very helpful for the loud (for me that is) portions of rides like 7DMT (in the gem cave part of the incline) or the TNT part of BTMRR, even the Liberty Square Boat for the horn.

About 10 years ago I went into urgent care for a sinus infection (which was common for me to have at least once a year prior to the pandemic) and the nurse said "oh my you have windy and twisty and small ear canals" first time I had been told that but I do believe that likely has a direct effect on how I get affected by motion sickness and how loud noises are painful for me.

I did purchase ginger gum for the cruise last year but didn't end up needing/trying that but that's something others have recommended.

That's great you could do spinning cups and the carousel

ETA: Oh and on EP yeah I think my husband and I found we LOVED having it, it was the first trip we did with it whereas other trips we didn't have it. We did a split stay with Royal Pacific for one night (and what a beautiful resort that is isn't it?) and then 2 nights at Endless Summer, worked perfectly! I could see us doing a split stay again

i laughed when i read about your laguardia-jfk ordeal.
Our daughter (now 39) was about 18 months old at the time...
we didn't know that she suffered from car sickness (and i didn't figure it out until about 4 years later).
anyway, we flew into laguardia and out of JFK...
just before the taxi arrived at JFK, she threw up all over my poor husband....
i'd never seen her do that before....not baby spitting up...massive vomit all over him..
and while of course i had many changes of clothes for her, i didn't have any for him (this was back in 1986 i guess)..
i learned my lesson...from that moment on i had a change of clothes for everyone..
but poor guy - he's 6'7" tall and wears very tall man clothes, so as you can imagine there was nothing in JFK that could fit him...
and it was a very very very long flight to come...
i think i did buy him a tshirt, that barely reached his waist...and he had to fly like that....oh well...

but yes, i know exactly what that ride is like (for us it was in a taxi, not an uber)..

i rode expedition everest once and thought i was going to die...i lied down right near the ride and didn't move for 2 hours LOL...
that was before i thought of using seabands on rides..
but i still wouldn't try EE again..
i was too scared to try tron, so i went in the line with my friend (she and i went to WDW together a year ago)...
she rode and i chickened out at the end...
and i also never ride guardians but i go in the line since it's a fun preshow...
what else don't i ride? rock and roller coaster...i think that's all....tron, EE, rock and roller coaster and guardians....oh and space mountain...and at universal there are a lot of rides i don't ride..

oh and flight of passage, when i rode it without seabands i kept my eyes closed, but with seabands i was able to keep them open most of the time..

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Have you seen/tried the moldable wax ear plugs? They are technically designed for swimmers, but we were at DLR without a vehicle and needed to buy what was onsite and that was all they had in the gift shop, so our sensory/sound-sensitive son gave them a try and he LOVED them. He didn't tolerate regular ear plugs well because he didn't like the feel. He described them as dampening the sound without cutting everything out completely, so he didn't feel he was missing out on things going on around him... they just took the edge off. Might be a good option for you? I had never heard of them before, so wanted to share.

I actually did try that first, well technically second as I tried my husband's foam ear plugs he had gotten years back for sleep when he has issues (that size was way too big for me hence why I ended up with the petite version which I bought at Bass Pro/Cabelas, they are bright pink and came with a handy small carrying case perfect for a park bag).

So the the moldable part what I found was that it ended up putting too much pressure on my ear canals and outer part of my ear similar to why the adult size of the foam ear plugs didn't work. It I'm sure blocks more sound overall but it just was painful and too uncomfortable in the end. I would not have thought about purchasing something like that at the parks but that's great they have at least some option there!

For the big loud noises like fireworks the noise reduction headphones are what I use, for minor noises the petite foam ear plugs are easier and work well for the most part. I wish I had done those foam ear plugs before our 2022 trip. I used them at SDC too for certain rides.

 

[jo-jo]

I have been reading, but haven’t seen any mention of the RTQ option lately. When you get a return time,…… did that turn out not to be an option? Or we just don’t know yet?

 

[cat4hurricane]

I got seabands for our cruise last year although historically I don't get sea sick and didn't use them for that I wanted them with me. They work for some symptoms and triggers of my motion sickness but not others from what I've experimented with. They help with the nausea and I figured they would based on how I've used that pressure point myself when I've needed to but not necessarily on vertigo or dizziness. I had to break out the seabands on our Uber ride for this Europe trip we went on as we flew to LaGuardia a day ahead but we flew out of JFK so we booked a hotel room near JFK. A 40 min stop go stop go weave in and out of traffic Uber ride had me about halfway through about to get sick so that pressure point to reduce nausea was really needed (had also gotten a headache and was very flushed I guess you could describe it) and my husband saw that. I was so happy to get out of that car when I did. I had to lie down for a bit afterwards and luckily it was late enough that the hotel room was ready.

I def. wouldn't mind bringing the seabands with us on our next trip and trying it out I mean no harm done whatsoever by keeping them on especially as I'm used to them now (they probably will help on Tron, kinda nervous about trying that out) but I do also know my limit. Spinning rides no matter what are just out (I did try Guardians but was so thankful it malfunctioned halfway through), high drops are very hard for me to do but that also is part fear part how it make my body feel but I can attempt Splash or Ripsaw Falls depending on how I'm feeling, upside down rides are a no. I did try Expedition Everest once but that backwards portion really got to me and for our Europe train trip we tried as hard as we possible could to buy tickets that allowed us to switch seats (so we got ones across from each other instead of side by side) when the direction of travel was unknown (which was most of it). The seabands don't help me with that backwards part I found out but they did help me when we were on a train from Belgium to Luxembourg going through France stopping 16 times, the frequent stopping triggered the motion sickness about halfway through. I tried bonine in 2017 and it made me too tired so I stopped using when I kept falling asleep at the parks .

I did find that my first time around on FOP in 2017 I had my eyes closed for about 95% of it but was able to do it twice in 2022 with most of the time my eyes being opened. Something I did differently in 2022 that helped me out for noises might have also helped in that respect. I got petite sized foam ear plugs (that aren't perfect due to the shape of my ear and ear canal but help none the less), those were very helpful for the loud (for me that is) portions of rides like 7DMT (in the gem cave part of the incline) or the TNT part of BTMRR, even the Liberty Square Boat for the horn.

About 10 years ago I went into urgent care for a sinus infection (which was common for me to have at least once a year prior to the pandemic) and the nurse said "oh my you have windy and twisty and small ear canals" first time I had been told that but I do believe that likely has a direct effect on how I get affected by motion sickness and how loud noises are painful for me.

I did purchase ginger gum for the cruise last year but didn't end up needing/trying that but that's something others have recommended.

That's great you could do spinning cups and the carousel

ETA: Oh and on EP yeah I think my husband and I found we LOVED having it, it was the first trip we did with it whereas other trips we didn't have it. We did a split stay with Royal Pacific for one night (and what a beautiful resort that is isn't it?) and then 2 nights at Endless Summer, worked perfectly! I could see us doing a split stay again

My sister gets super motion sick (car sick, sea sick, all the sicks, she’ll puke on a plane if the turbulence is that bad) and what helped for us on the one cruise we did (Alaska, boarding in Vancouver) was a mix of sea/pressure point bands, Dramamine (drowsy for nights so we can sleep and non-drowsy for the days) and we all went to the doctors and got some sort of perscription behind the ear nausea controller patch. (Medline says it’s Scopolamine, which sounds right). The only day she truly got sick ended up being our one day at sea, and even that got me suffering, and I’m the one who inherited my dad’s iron stomach.

Either way, to bring it back to the parks, if you got super motion sick, would it be a good possible idea to frontload Dramamine for the cases where you’ll know that you’ll be going on spinny or any other motion sickness ride or to prep beforehand by going to the doctor and getting those patches? I’m sure you have all sorts of solutions already, as well. My mom managed to find some kind of ginger-based tablet (think like a lozenge) that worked wonders the last time I was super food sick, it may not help for before the ride, but I’ve had those wipe out the majority of my nausea before in a matter of minutes.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

we didn't know that she suffered from car sickness (and i didn't figure it out until about 4 years later).

Poor thing!

It's interesting for me as when I was a baby my parents would drive around to help get me to sleep, well then eventually motion sickness kicked it years down the road go figure.

and i also never ride guardians but i go in the line since it's a fun preshow...

We did Guardians during the previews, I did like the preshow. My husband did say he thinks Guardians is his fav ride at WDW and he'd be willing to pay for the ILL to ride it and if that ends up happening I'll for sure just sit out I can kinda just go around that area of Epcot while he's on it or go in Connections Eatery (which I liked that they have a good amount of seating there and decent food too).

i was too scared to try tron, so i went in the line with my friend (she and i went to WDW together a year ago)...

This is good to know that you found it easy to just duck out. I do try rides once if I think I can handle it and so I get to find out what will just not be workable in the future and I do think I can for Tron but I appreciate that you

at universal there are a lot of rides i don't ride..

I will say at least presently Universal does excel more in the streetmosphere. Like while my husband was riding Mummy I caught the Blues Brothers strolling on down in the car then stopping to get photos with some guests another time it was a showtime for them. At WDW I figure out other stuff I can do to occupy my time.

 

[jlundeen]

One trick that helps with minor motion sickness on rides is to NOT close your eyes... instead, look at your hands, or your knees, or something. Then you don't feel it as much... I went with a good friend for years who always closed her eyes, but mimicked the "oo-s" and "ah-s" of the other riders so they wouldn't know she really had her eyes closed.... she tried this trick and it really worked for her. She couldn't look at the screen, but could go on Soarin' and other rides where she had gotten queasy. Also dramamine or bonine.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I have been reading, but haven’t seen any mention of the RTQ option lately. When you get a return time,…… did that turn out not to be an option? Or we just don’t know yet?

Just a bit ago my CM friend chatted with our group chat and he actually mentioned RTQ saying it's basically a last resort/going to be for very unique situations. I believe that's matched what has been talked here once we all made the understanding that AQR and RTQ were not the same thing.

 

[jo-jo]

Just a bit ago my CM friend chatted with our group chat and he actually mentioned RTQ saying it's basically a last resort/going to be for very unique situations. I believe that's matched what has been talked here once we all made the understanding that AQR and RTQ were not the same thing.

Thank you,

I was hoping it would be used as a step below "normal" DAS.

It would have work great for us. The setting up a ride before you even leave the prior ride is great, but really not needed for us.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

i also can't ride space mountain anymore
i went on it in 2022 and the ride was so much rougher than i remember, or else my internal springs aren't very springy anymore...

Coaster tracks get a bit rougher as they age. What you posted might also be true, but the ride has also gotten rougher.

I feel for your situation, and appreciate the time you are taking to explain your situation.

 

[mickeyluv'r]

I'm with @Mackenzie Click-Mickelson - I ride everything, but my friend doesn't go on rides with big drops. She never waits in line for something she's not riding. Why should she wait in line for something she's not riding, when she could be shopping, in the arcade, sitting on a bench, spotting those little FL lizards, occasionally even going on another ride, etc - pretty much all better than standing in a line.

Wouldn't Attraction Queue Return work for your SIL? He can wait comfortably on a bench, meander between the rides at his speed, etc, then rejoin at the merge.

I've waited in lines even though I didn't plan to ride, because a big part of our vacation is hanging out together. Some of the queues are fun to see, like Toy Story MM, sometimes we use queue time to order food, plan our day, or talk about the last ride we rode.

 

[Einstein509]

Sure. CM can show you their name tag. Are you going to demand that the detective talk about their shooting and exercise qualifications and academy records?

Nope, badge is fine enough.

Not talking about the CM, I'm talking about the "medical professional." Would like to know who that is. Is it a medical insurance claim person (as someone mentioned), is it a medical administrator, NP, PA, or doctor?

I think Liquidice brings up a good point in the vagueness of that title.

That's like saying "sports professional." I could name 50 different jobs/careers that can be classified as a "sports professional." It's just too vague.

 

[Jrb1979]

Nope, badge is fine enough.

Not talking about the CM, I'm talking about the "medical professional." Would like to know who that is. Is it a medical insurance claim person (as someone mentioned), is it a medical administrator, NP, PA, or doctor?

I think Liquidice brings up a good point in the vagueness of that title.

That's like saying "sports professional." I could name 50 different jobs/careers that can be classified as a "sports professional." It's just too vague.

While it's vague, IMO it doesn't matter cause they aren't basing DAS on diagnosis of disability but basing it on the need.

 

[OurBigTrip]

Nope, badge is fine enough.

Not talking about the CM, I'm talking about the "medical professional." Would like to know who that is. Is it a medical insurance claim person (as someone mentioned), is it a medical administrator, NP, PA, or doctor?

I think Liquidice brings up a good point in the vagueness of that title.

That's like saying "sports professional." I could name 50 different jobs/careers that can be classified as a "sports professional." It's just too vague.

Bottom line, neither Disney nor the medical professional owe you that information.

 

[Einstein509]

Bottom line, neither Disney nor the medical professional owe you that information.

Why? We have to disclose pretty sensitive medical information. It's the least they can do.