dangerous breeds of dog

[Hollywoodhaha]

It all depends on the training and how you handle them.

My grandparents have a pit bull and from the moment they got her, they had her trained. They live in South Carolina and they taught her how to "give a howdy"
She sits, stays, and sometimes sits in the garage with them and if someone walks by, she just stares at them, never leaving.
She is also part dalmation, but very little.

Although, there are the animal instincts. Like, when she is chewing her toy and you reach for it and she growls, DON'T GRAB IT.

But, really, pit bulls are extremely sweet if they aren't having an owner who is training them to fight and kill.

 

[golfgal]

It all depends on the training and how you handle them.

My grandparents have a pit bull and from the moment they got her, they had her trained. They live in South Carolina and they taught her how to "give a howdy"
She sits, stays, and sometimes sits in the garage with them and if someone walks by, she just stares at them, never leaving.
She is also part dalmation, but very little.

Although, there are the animal instincts. Like, when she is chewing her toy and you reach for it and she growls, DON'T GRAB IT.

But, really, pit bulls are extremely sweet if they aren't having an owner who is training them to fight and kill.

I have always wanted to give pet owners the benefit of the doubt until our neighbor's dog attacked our dog last summer--TOTALLY unprovoked. These dogs (there are 2 but only one got our dog) are total house dogs, family pets, trained, well cared for, loved. They have 3 small children in their house, including twins that are now just a year old yet these dogs have attacked 2 dogs in our neighborhood in the past year--TOTALLY unprovoked. No one has trained them to fight or kill, yet they certainly have tried to do that, at least twice that I have seen. Our dog ended up with a massive infection, damage to some nerves and a heart murmur from this attack. Don't tell me how sweet these dogs are and they only attack when trained to do so. Our neighbor keeps telling us how sweet his dogs are too .

 

[Mommy2three]

Let's face it: if you are around dogs long enough you will discover that certain breeds have instincts for certain behaviors. My family has a pure bred dachshund. I have a dachshund/Jack Russell mix. Dachshunds were bred to hunt badgers and are very much den animals. Both Schnitzel and Matthias love to burrow under the covers. They will literally tuck themselves in. It is adorable. Point is, Matthias did this long before he met Schnitzel. I never trained him for it. It is simply part of his temperament.

Not to start anything but Eeyores butterfly I did have a dachshund at one time with my 3 children, my oldest daughter was 7 at the time and had her nose almost completely ripped off by the dachshund...reason...none....he was sitting on my daughters lap for a while and next thing you know he bites her nose! We had him for about 3 years at that time. He was only about 3 years old at the time also. Not sure what it was all about, or what he was thinking but it did happen. I also have had 2 american bulldogs and a staffordshire with my children and they never did anything like that to my children, and they were well trained, training classes and all, but to other small animals, cats, and SMALL dogs, they were not friendly to. We no longer have any of them now but currently have an english mastiff who is only 3 months old and a 1 year old pitbull and our 21 year old lab/ golden retriever mix and my children are now 3,7 and 9. Not sure if i will own another dachshund because of what happened, won't take that risk again. Just out of the blue bit her while he was sitting in the chair with her, she didn't provoke him or anything, was just watching saturday cartoons in the morning, the week of Xmas.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Absolutely any animal can bite. I will be the first to admit that dachshunds are among some of the top biters. But the chances of them hurting or seriously injuring an adult are much less than the chances of a larger dog that can easily overpower an adult. This doesn't mean it never happens, but statistically is less likely to.

Obviously with children all bets are off. It doesn't take as much to injure a child.

If you are thinking of getting a dog, the best thing to do is research the breed. My family has a purebred dachshund and I own a doxie mix. We know that dachshunds are near the top of the dog bite list every year. We take appropriate precautions. Honestly, if a little kid came around, I would confine Schnitzel as he is old and arthritic and I have no doubt he would snap at a child who was too rough.

 

[JessicaR]

Not to start anything but Eeyores butterfly I did have a dachshund at one time with my 3 children, my oldest daughter was 7 at the time and had her nose almost completely ripped off by the dachshund...reason...none....he was sitting on my daughters lap for a while and next thing you know he bites her nose! We had him for about 3 years at that time. He was only about 3 years old at the time also. Not sure what it was all about, or what he was thinking but it did happen. I also have had 2 american bulldogs and a staffordshire with my children and they never did anything like that to my children, and they were well trained, training classes and all, but to other small animals, cats, and SMALL dogs, they were not friendly to. We no longer have any of them now but currently have an english mastiff who is only 3 months old and a 1 year old pitbull and our 21 year old lab/ golden retriever mix and my children are now 3,7 and 9. Not sure if i will own another dachshund because of what happened, won't take that risk again. Just out of the blue bit her while he was sitting in the chair with her, she didn't provoke him or anything, was just watching saturday cartoons in the morning, the week of Xmas.

Your dog is 21?
I have Mastiffs also. A Neo and a Dogue de Bordeaux. Gentle giants. They are like potato chips, I can't have just one and I'm ready for # 3.

As far as the topic goes I dont think its breed specific. I think all dogs are capable of bad behavoir given the wrong owner. Then there are some that will snap anyway, just like humans.

 

[Aisling]

I don't think well-trained dogs of any breed are "prone" to violent behavior. Pitbulls, mastiffs, rotties, etc are very muscular and are prone to causing severe damage when/if they bite, which is why they can be considered dangerous.

When one of those dogs bite, it makes the news because the damage is horrible. I would think that most dog bites of other breeds often don't get reported because the damage is small.

From what I know, the military uses these power breeds not because they have a killer instinct, but because they're built like tanks.

My vet said that for every pitbull bite, there's a bite from another breed. They don't bite more, they just bite stronger.

My friend is fostering an akita that has since attacked her shizu, and she has to keep them separated. Who knows what that akita went through to make it mean like that. Her own akita died of old age, she had him since he was a puppy, and he was as gentle as can be.

I'm not debating (trying to convince anyone to what I believe), I just want to share my personal experiences/

Does anyone know what pitbulls were originally used for? As I recall, Petie from the Little Rascals was a pitbull.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

I know in the US, they used to be "nanny dogs". People would trust them to watch over their kids. I have read there is a difference between American Pitbulls and British Pitbulls. That American Pitbulls are more likely to be unstable/aggressive than British Pitbulls due to differences in breeding. Just like American Labradors are tend to be more hyperactive/psycho than British Labradors (Marley and Me talks a lot about that.)

 

[Aisling]

So the solution would be for breeders to improve the breed by not mating the aggressive ones, so that behaviour will die out. Then in a decade, pitbulls will be the dog of choice for being especially gentle with children like they were years ago.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

That would be a wonderful, sadly, I doubt it will happen. Not as long as the underground dogfighting rings continue, and people (backyard breeders) breed for profit and not betterment of the breed.

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

Soooooooooo

hey OP, do you have enough information for the HOA?

hehehehehhee

 

[CathrynRose]

I have read there is a difference between American Pitbulls and British Pitbulls. That American Pitbulls are more likely to be unstable/aggressive than British Pitbulls due to differences in breeding.

They're illegal in the UK.

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/domestic/dogs.htm

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

Maybe it was another country? And actually, you can get both specific breeds in the US. It refers to a specific subtype of the breed based on the lineage of the dog.

 

[WDWMom]

As a former HOA trustee that kind of wording might not fly in court. You have to be specific in your by-laws. That is not written legally to hold up.

You must state the breeds that are not allowed. My guess is that the HOA will lose.

You can try and fight the dog owner but the chances of losing are high.

This is a police matter to be honest.

Our bylaws state you can not have pit bulls, dobermins or rotts. Had an issue in our neighborhood a couple years ago but the people have since moved before legal action had to take place.

 

[squirrlygirl]

Soooooooooo

hey OP, do you have enough information for the HOA?

hehehehehhee

Lots of information; not sure how much of it has anything to do with whether you'd be satisfied with training and a fence if you were the next-door neighbor

 

[sbell111]

Actually, if you read the full first study the majority of attacks were by family dogs on owners. Many of these dogs had not been trained to be aggressive towards people, and the study found (the part I bolded) that 2/3 of the attacks were without any kind of warning (at least according to the owners.)

You either missed or overlooked the point of my post.

Simply put, you do not have to set out to train a dog (any dog) to be aggressive in order to train him to be aggressive.

If this does not make sense to you, please let me know and I will try (again) to explain it more clearly.