disneyfan55
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Yeah, we returned from POP last weekend and I can confirm there's no bounceback. We've been doing the free DDP in August for several years now, but we won't be returning next year if all we can get for free is the QSDP.
Frankly, free DDP at the Value Resorts was too good a deal -- which is probably why Disney has pulled it. Over the years, my family became "professionals" at milking it. It was a fantastic deal if you could stay, say, 10 days, buy base tickets (which cost little more than 3 day tickets), and ate and hung out at Disney's best restaurants and fanciest resorts, touring the theme parks at a relaxed pace. All for about $80 a day, plus the tickets. None of my friends believed it, but Disney was actually a cheap (and very nice) vacation this way (with little need or incentive to spend any additional money, except for gratuities at the table service restaurants).
I still think free QSDP at a value resort is a very good deal -- but mostly for Disney newbies. Those of us who have visited many times have "done" the parks; the opportunity to eat for free at some great restaurants was what kept us coming back year after year. (Newbies will be happy exploring the parks, and will find the free QSDP more than adequate.) I'm sure we'd EVENTUALLY return under the new rules, but there's just no reason to rush back. Upgrading to a moderate resort would almost double our room tab, which might still be a good deal, isn't a COMPELLING deal if you've already done the free DDP several times at the much lower price. I'm sure many other value bouncebackers will feel the same way, and Disney will lose some of our business, but I'm not sure it's business they really want to have.
Yes, the values were the way to do it especially back when appi and tips were included. The room was 82 per night plus tax. We had AP so we bought the 1 day and yes, a really great deal. In fact we had the room discount booked for the end of 2008 for 54/night but for the rack rate of 82/night we got food for 3 of us. Actually 92/night since we ended up bringing someone else. We only bought the 1 day pass and even with the ticket that we didn't need we spent less per day than we would have even though we had TIW! I agree with your reasoning that this is why the reg. dining has been pulled, probably why tips/appy also were pulled a couple years ago. Disney does make out when the Deluxe is booked for FD and probably evens out on a mod due to other spendings. It did work to make Sept a much busier time of year and keep all the dining CMs with jobs. My daughter wanted to stay in a mod for our stay this fall, so we are picking the 20% TIW. The FD would have been too many tickets (2 day each) plus the rack rate plus we won't have the TS each day which really to me makes WDW too structured. Too much planning just somehow takes away from the do what you feel like that day approach (which was always how we visited before the onset of the dining Plan-I know WDW had one for years but before FD, not all the bother with res. for TS until the day of!)