Curious about some of you who are budget minded here....

HA! I think I need to make your last line my signature line! :rotfl2:

Yeah, I need to get a line item for stuff we can touch.

Then again, re-funding it has to be in the budget too......

I have been thinking and looking a bit at the budget and thinking maybe I just need to put $300/mo into a touchable fund. I do part of that now into my savings/computer fund, but that fund is funded now, so I can just keep that and add a bit more and have that available.

Dawn

Have an emergency fund. Have an "unexpected events" fund. Treat the "unexpected events" fund like your emergency fund - refund it as quickly as possible when you take money out.

Sounds like you do, just rename it so you touch it.

Money doesn't do you any good if it isn't usable.
 
I use and love YNAB also but it can drive me crazy when I have unusual expenses that I need to find a home for! I agree with all the categories PPs have assigned your examples to except for the travel expense. Two years ago I added an "emergency travel" line after facing two unexpected funerals. I like having it separated from "vacation" because this type of travel definitely isn't a vacation, and I don't like having my vacation fund look like we spent more than we did on fun! :lmao:
 
I use YNAB too.....but I hate assigning extra $$ to a category if it will just sit there for a year or two or never get used.....I think that is why I am leaning towards a "catch all" fund with my ING account.

Dawn

I use and love YNAB also but it can drive me crazy when I have unusual expenses that I need to find a home for! I agree with all the categories PPs have assigned your examples to except for the travel expense. Two years ago I added an "emergency travel" line after facing two unexpected funerals. I like having it separated from "vacation" because this type of travel definitely isn't a vacation, and I don't like having my vacation fund look like we spent more than we did on fun! :lmao:
 
I use YNAB too.....but I hate assigning extra $$ to a category if it will just sit there for a year or two or never get used.....I think that is why I am leaning towards a "catch all" fund with my ING account.

Dawn

The only drawback for me with a "miscellaneous" line item is my huge (perhaps OCD?) desire to know what we spent our money on in a particular year. I started with YNAB in order to get a good idea of expenses over time so that I could project retirement needs. If I put expenses into "miscellaneous", I don't know if they are things I'll have to account for in retirement. My headaches this year all revolve around HS graduation/college fees, which will be over in 12 years . . . .
 

I see.

Retirement will be in about 20-25 years, so who knows what things will look like then.

My youngest will not finish college for another 15 years a the earliest.....

I also plan to return to work at some point.

Dawn

The only drawback for me with a "miscellaneous" line item is my huge (perhaps OCD?) desire to know what we spent our money on in a particular year. I started with YNAB in order to get a good idea of expenses over time so that I could project retirement needs. If I put expenses into "miscellaneous", I don't know if they are things I'll have to account for in retirement. My headaches this year all revolve around HS graduation/college fees, which will be over in 12 years . . . .
 
We follow DR and have a fully funded emergency fund, but we also have a envelope category that's just called "Miscellaneous". It has a nominal amount of cash inside that helps cover unforeseen needs such as one of the kids coming home and announcing that they have a field trip the very next day. The bigger stuff, would come out of the emergency fund.
 
I think our problem is this: we have adequate emergency savings but we somehow have this mindset that we don't want to touch it unless it is a REALLY big emergency!

So, instead, we squeeze it into our budget from other places and try to make it fit/work,

Dawn


This is us but it doesn't frustrate me. When unexpected things come up, we always try to squeeze it into our regular budget. We don't follow Dave Ramsey, though. Every dollar is not named. Since becoming debt free, we have a fair amount of disposable income, most months some of it ends up added to savings. When unexpected things come up, we try to cover them with that money.
 
I was thinking about the disposable income thing today and wondering why we don't have more than we had before we became debt free.....I found the $$.....

We switched from a 30 year to a 15 year mortgage- payments went up over $700 more.

We started putting an additional $300 into the kids' college funds per month.

We put $200 more than we were into our emergency fund per month.

And we upped our retirement amount deducted per month.

Well, there ya' go.....THAT is why our disposable income didn't change. :scared1:

Dawn

This is us but it doesn't frustrate me. When unexpected things come up, we always try to squeeze it into our regular budget. We don't follow Dave Ramsey, though. Every dollar is not named. Since becoming debt free, we have a fair amount of disposable income, most months some of it ends up added to savings. When unexpected things come up, we try to cover them with that money.
 
This happens to us constantly as well. Every dollar we earn is assigned to something and, inevitably, something ELSE comes up. I had an emergency fund at one point and was doing pretty good at paying down debt but then some car repairs came up, other things came up, and the emergency fund was gone and my credit cards went back up.

I've decided now to just restructure all my bills, snowball my credit cards, and make an emergency fund part of the monthly bills (so as to assign money to that each month regardless). I can't continue this living paycheck to paycheck with nothing to fall back on. It's unecessary stress and I don't think anyone needs that in their lives!!
 
This happens to us constantly as well. Every dollar we earn is assigned to something and, inevitably, something ELSE comes up. I had an emergency fund at one point and was doing pretty good at paying down debt but then some car repairs came up, other things came up, and the emergency fund was gone and my credit cards went back up.

I've decided now to just restructure all my bills, snowball my credit cards, and make an emergency fund part of the monthly bills (so as to assign money to that each month regardless). I can't continue this living paycheck to paycheck with nothing to fall back on. It's unecessary stress and I don't think anyone needs that in their lives!!
This is me as well. I started reading about Dave Ramsey and upon receiving quite a nice bonus (for me) around Christmas time, we got some expense problems fixed and I put $1000 into the emergency fund.

It took 4 months to deplete it. Everything was fine, I was way ahead in bills. Then gas prices started rising as well as groceries. I couldn't increase the budget by those amounts. The amounts are quite a lot. I am saving $100/pay in a separate account for car insurance and heating oil. Well, guess where the gas money started to come from. I was able to squeeze the next car insurance bill, but the final oil bill for this past season had to come from the e-fund ($424). Then both cars needed tires, 2 for Wifey's small SUV (expensive) and I was hoping 2 for my car. Unfortunately I had a flat on one of the good tires and was running on the spare until the rain stopped and I could change it back. I was hoping it was a winter fluke thing that it was flat. Nope, filled it with air and it wouldn't hold. So, 4 tires for mine. $300 for her car (with a wheel alignment) and $450 for mine. $1000 efund minus the $424 for oil left me $576. With that $576 I had to pay for $700 worth of tires. Money on a credit card, had to be done. I had 2 completely bald on her car, 2 completely bald and 1 completely flat on mine. Both cars got the cheapest I could find tires.

It is a never ending battle when you are paycheck to paycheck.

Eventually when I am out of debt, I plan to create funds for various things over my e-fund. Housing fund, car repair fund are 2 big ones. Owning a house, you are always going to have something. Sump pump goes out, appliance breaks, need a roof, furnace goes.... Same with car repairs. Oil changes are done regularly every few months. New tires needed every few years. Some cars need the timing belt and water pump done quite often. Mine is 60,000 miles (3-4 years) and that is a big maintenance repair. Generally timing belt is close or more than $1000. Times that by 2 cars and that's expensive (we both drive an average of 15-20,000 per year.)

These kinds of things are saved up with what Dave calls sinking funds. You set it aside for whatever expense you may have in the future that is not a monthly recurring. I pay car insurance every 3 months, sinking fund (currently being funded but that is what was taken for gas/groceries.) Heating oil averages every 6 weeks at $4-500 for me, sinking fund. When I am debt free, sinking funds will be established for home repair/maintenance and car repair/maintenance. These I would probably put a cap on, but the cap would need to be quite high for the house ($1000 appliances as they seem to go in pairs, new roof, new furnace in the future will run very high.) Car repairs won't be quite as high of a fund, but will still need to be sure I have $1000+ for tires every 3 years or timing belt replacement on top of the small stuff like oil changes, brakes, and exhaust replacements.
 
I know.... living paycheck to paycheck just doesn't cut it. I use coupons, I do everything I can to cut corners, I do without a lot of things for myself (including medications).

I can't imagine what this summer is going to be like with gas prices. I went to the gas station yesterday: $4.30/gallon. :scared1:

This summer is going to be brutal! We only have one car so this is what my morning will be like: getting out of the house by 8:10 to get husband to work (driving about 6 miles west); driving back east for about 8 miles to drop my daughter to camp; driving back 10 miles west to get myself to work. So, that's 24 miles JUST in the morning!!! My van gets about 15 miles per gallon, by the way. The afternoon will be just as crazy. I'll leave work, pick her up from camp, go back and get him from work and then back home. I'm thinking we'll be putting a minimum of 55 miles on the car per day, which is about 3 1/2 gallons of gas --- times 5 days is a little over 17 gallons of gas. That's only for work/camp. Let's not forget errands, groceries, etc. I'm not looking forward to how much I'll be shelling out for gas this summer.

I have to restructure my bills and start snowballing and putting $$ away in an emergency fund. I can't live like this anymore. The stress is just too much. Any little extra expense can be a real catastrophe.

Sigh......... sigh ............ sigh................. :sad1:
 














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