Cruise Ships: Amsterdam, 500 - Magic, 100

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Looks like the Disney Magic found the same bug Holland America's Amsterdam found over the last couple of weeks. The Orlando Sentinel reports that about 100 passengers on the latest 7-day cruise were struck with 'flu-like symptoms.'

Disney has chosen to deep clean the Magic at sea, as well as disinfecting the eintire bus fleet and the terminal.

Sarangel
 
"Virus Strikes Disney Cruise Ship

Officials with Disney Cruise Line confirmed Thursday that about 100 people are sick with a viral infection aboard the Disney Magic.

The ship is due to arrive at Port Canaveral Saturday, WESH NewsChannel 2 reported.

Both crew members and passengers are reportedly complaining of stomach flu-like symptoms. Disney officials said they notified the U.S. Public Health Service and is now working to prevent the spread of the symptoms because the ship doesn't return to Central Florida until Saturday.

"The safety and comfort of our guests will always remain our highest priority. We maintain very high standards and strict practices relating to the sanitation of our ships," a written statement from Disney Cruise Line said.

WESH NewsChannel 2 medical reporter Dr. Todd Husty said this can happen anyplace people congregate.

"Anytime you have people living real close together, we see outbreaks of illness passed easily. A cruise ship fits the bill," Husty said.

At Port Everglades, Holland-America dropped off its sick cruise ship Thursday.

Marty Cohn's friends picked him up wearing surgical masks and gloves as a joke.

"People at the next table were sick. we would see some people one day, and the next day we wouldn't see them," Cohn said.

In the Amsterdam's last four trips, over 500 passengers and crew reported stomach problems consistent with the Norwalk virus. People were warned not to shake hands or touch any food except their own. The majority of passengers didn't get sick, and they said the virus didn't ruin their experience.

"You know it's there. It's just like getting married and worrying about getting pregnant, it's always there," passenger Hazel Burke said.

"I washed my hands 15 times a day. I think they're cleaner than they've ever been. I found skin I never saw before," passenger Bob Larmondra said."

In addition -- I caught the end of an interview on one of the morning shows just a short time ago. Speculation was that this may make potential cruisers stay away, and good cruising rates would be out, stemming from this.
Travel specialist noted as there are already very good cruise rates out, and between the competition and this, expect good cruise deals coming up.
Not that I would be going, but just thought it was an interesting observation.
 
Disney cruise ship reports hundreds sick as Holland ship returns to port for a top-to-bottom scouring
Fri Nov 22,12:28 AM ET

PORT CANAVERAL, Florida - About 100 passengers on a Disney cruise ship contracted a contagious stomach virus, shortly after more than 500 people on another cruise ship came down with a similar illness, Disney officials said.

Passengers and crew members on the Disney Cruise Line ship Magic became ill Wednesday. The ship departed Nov. 17 from Port Canaveral with 3,200 people on board and returns Saturday.

Disney will clean and disinfect the ship at sea, spokesman Mark Jaronski said. Disney's terminal and other locations also will be cleaned.

Sick passengers will be offered compensation. There are no plans to cancel any scheduled cruises aboard the Magic, he said.

Disney made its announcement the same day that Holland America's cruise ship Amsterdam returned to port for a stem-to-stern scouring after more than 500 people on its last four voyages became sick.

The ship had been scheduled to leave on a 10-day Caribbean cruise Thursday, but the voyage was canceled so the vessel could be sanitized.

After the latest passengers disembarked, 573 crew members began cleaning the ship, emptying garbage cans and wiping down remote controls, clock radios, even Bibles. During the next 10 days, crew members will replace 2,500 pillows and dry-clean, steam-clean and disinfect every surface aboard the ship, which is 780 feet (234 meters) long and has 690 staterooms.

The Holland America cruise line said that during the ship's just-completed 10-day voyage, 58 passengers and 18 crew members developed symptoms associated with the Norwalk virus. Eighty-seven of the 1,305 passengers left the ship at various ports in the Caribbean and were flown home.

In all, 454 passengers and 70 crew members have become sick within the past month during four successive voyages aboard the Amsterdam. The virus, spread through food and water and close contact with infected people or things they have touched, can cause diarrhea, stomach pain and vomiting.

The cruise line had spent more than 10 hours scrubbing the Amsterdam with a chlorine solution before it departed on its latest voyage.

On the cruise, passengers were barred from serving themselves at buffets or touching any food or drinks but their own.

"They were cleaning all the time. You'd see people and then they would not be there for dinner, so you knew they got sick," said Lori Druckeroff, a Boynton Beach retiree.

The cruise line is working with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites).

Holland America Line is owned by Miami-based Carnival Corp.
 
on the way to work i was listening to BLoomberg radio and caught just a little something about a bunch of people getting sick on a Disney cruise line and that they have to fully like decontaminate it. but like i said i dont know the whole stories does anyone else?
 

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MIAMI (Nov. 23) - A cruise ship longer than two football fields is getting a scrubbing from hundreds of workers who are wiping down Bibles, washing linens, steam-cleaning cushions and chairs, and disinfecting light switches, doorknobs and handrails.

The Holland America cruise line hopes to kill a virus that has been sickening cruise ship passengers by the hundreds in recent weeks.

More than 500 people aboard the Amsterdam have contracted a contagious stomach virus on four successive voyages over the past month despite repeated attempts to disinfect the ship. At least two other U.S.-based cruise ships - one of them operated by Disney - have reported similar outbreaks that sickened nearly 500 others in recent months.

Such cases are rare in an industry that will serve an estimated 7.4 million passengers worldwide in 2002. The Amsterdam is only the second U.S.-based cruise ship to be pulled from service this year, and only two others have been taken out in the past four years, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Nevertheless, a cruise, where hundreds of passengers and crew mingle in close quarters for days or weeks, can provide ideal conditions for the Norwalk-like virus to spread. The virus is spread through food and water and close contact with infected people or things they have touched. It can cause diarrhea, stomach pain and vomiting for up to two days.

''It's a perfect environment for spreading a virus that is so infectious as the Norwalk virus is,'' said David Forney, chief of the CDC's vessel sanitation program.

The outbreaks are not expected to pose a threat to the cruise lines, which have largely rebounded since the terrorist attacks, said industry analyst Joe Hovorka of Raymond James & Associates in St. Petersburg, Fla.

''Certainly if they see a deficiency somewhere they're going to fix it,'' he said. ''They understand that this is not good PR for them.''

The 780-foot Amsterdam returned to Port Everglades near Fort Lauderdale on Thursday and will be out service until Dec. 1.

As soon as the last passenger disembarked, nearly 600 workers - including porters, casino workers and dancers - donned plastic gloves, toted water buckets and began to scour every surface within reach. They face a daunting task of cleaning a ship with 10 passenger decks, 690 staterooms and 747 seats in the La Fontaine Dining Room.

Workers will also wash linens and sheets, throw out pens and pencils, clean thousands of plastic poker chips in dishwashers, and wipe down nearly 800 Bibles, TV remote controls and clock radios with a chlorine cleanser.

Forney said fabrics will be steam-cleaned to temperatures of 170 degrees to kill any trace of the bug.

Holland America said 76 people developed symptoms associated with the Norwalk-like virus during the Amsterdam's 10-day voyage that ended Thursday.

As a precaution during the cruise, salt and pepper shakers were removed from the dinner tables. Passengers rubbed elbows instead of shaking hands. Jacuzzis were turned off. Passengers were not allowed to help themselves to food at the buffet or the salad bar; crew members in plastic gloves served them.

Shelly Drucker, 67, of Boynton Beach, has sailed five times with Holland America and remained healthy during the Amsterdam's latest cruise. He said he plans to return, even though this time wasn't as much fun.

''It was a pain in the neck,'' he said. ''But they tried. What else could they do?''

Holland America pulled another ship, the Ryndam, from service for a week in July to disinfect it. The vessel had 388 reported cases of a Norwalk-like virus. A lawsuit seeking class-action status was filed in Canada in August on behalf of Ryndam passengers.

In addition, at least 175 passengers and 12 crew members on a Disney cruise ship have become infected with a contagious stomach virus, the CDC said. The Magic departed Nov. 17 from Port Canaveral with 3,200 people on board and returns on Saturday.

Disney officials have ordered the ship cleaned and disinfected at sea.
 
MIAMI (Reuters) - The Disney Cruise Line on Wednesday canceled a Caribbean voyage by its Disney Magic ship, the second luxury vessel to be pulled from service by a prominent U.S. cruise line to combat a gastrointestinal virus that has hit hundreds of passengers.


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The two-ship line operated by Walt Disney Co., the entertainment giant famous for theme parks and cartoon films, said a week-long sailing from Port Canaveral, Florida, on Saturday had been canceled so that the three-year-old ship can be disinfected.


"We have been talking with many experts over the past several days and, based upon their collective advice, our company has made the voluntary decision to take this course of action," Disney Cruise Line President Matt Ouimet said.


Another cruise ship, the Amsterdam operated by Holland America Line, last week canceled a 10-day cruise after four significant outbreaks of illness during October and November and is being scrubbed down in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, in the hope of breaking a cycle of transmission.


On Monday, lawyers seeking restitution for 500 or more passengers sickened aboard the Amsterdam filed a lawsuit saying the cruise line should have more quickly yanked the ship out of service for decontamination.


Holland America, a unit of Miami-based Carnival Corp., also canceled a week-long Alaska cruise last summer by its Ryndam ship to break outbreaks of Norwalk-like virus that struck 388 passengers and 40 crew during two cruises.


U.S. government health officials and Holland America credit the week-long break without passengers on the Ryndam with curtailing the non-lethal virus, which is believed to be largely transmitted by one person to another.


"Experts tell us that this seven-day hiatus, along with additional sanitation procedures that are not possible for a ship in operation, will provide the best opportunity to eliminate this concern going forward," said Ouimet.


Officials at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta said that at midday on Wednesday 104 passengers and 19 crew of nearly 3,500 people aboard the Disney Magic had stomach pains and other symptoms of Norwalk-like virus.


Last week, during another seven-day voyage in the Caribbean, some 275 people on the ship reported vomiting, diarrhea and other gastrointestinal ailments. The Disney Magic was scrubbed down last weekend to combat the virus.


David Forney, the chief cruise-ship sanitation inspector for the CDC, said tests completed on Wednesday showed the infection last week on the Disney Magic was a Norwalk-like virus, whose foul symptoms generally pass within a few days.

CDC inspectors last fully examined the Disney Magic in June, when its sanitary practices and equipment were rated 99 on a 100-point scale.

Ouimet said the Disney Magic would complete its current cruise and dock as scheduled on Saturday in Port Canaveral.

The CDC said outbreaks of Norwalk-like virus are common, occurring regularly in nursing homes, hospitals and other venues where people come together for several days or more, and did not constitute a significant health risk for most people.

Forney said the CDC believed the rate of gastrointestinal illnesses on cruise ships stopping in U.S. ports had actually declined in recent years, even as the industry has grown rapidly. Some 7.4 million cruise passengers were expected to sail from North American ports this year.

Officials at both Carnival and Disney said the canceled voyages, which result in lost revenues as well as compensation to disappointed customers, would not affect reported earnings.
 
I have been looking in the Cruise Line Forum, and there are some reports from people on the cruises...

Sad story for the ones on the cancelled cruise...
Lots of flaming towards the end of these threads, and lots of posts... a good read if you are stuck at home with nothing to do on the weekend.....

Magic 11/16/02 Illness - THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN POST ABOUT THIS INCIDENT
(This is closed from last week cruise)

IMPORTANT - 11/30 MAGIC CRUISE HAS BEEN CANCELLED (11/30 Cruisers Discuss Here)

Happy Turkey To All!!!!!!!!!
 
The total of ships in this area in recent weeks is now up to at least 4 -- all on different lines.

With all of them washing everything down so thoroughly, I wonder if the real source of the problem is what comes on board for each sailing -- most particularly the food. I have not heard anything at all about the food suppliers being checked out.
 





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