Counterfeit designer bags at my mall!!!

Just to play devil's advocate...I wonder if the designer manufacturers really do lose money from these sales. Disclaimer: I don't own any knock-off bags. I'm sure I will never have the inclination and I doubt I will ever have the means to pay $1500 for a bag. So LV, Coach, etc. will never have a sale from me. If I bought a fake bag because I liked the look of it, there would be no sale lost from me, because I'd just buy a different one I liked the look of if the knock-off wasn't available. To be honest, I wouldn't even know a LV, real or fake, if I saw one.

This is a complicated question and it doesn't have a straight answer. Yes, there is a percentage that will buy the bags in ignorance thinking they are the real thing. This is particularly true in knock-offs that make it into mainstream retail outlets. In that case, the purchase of the counterfeit is directly taking away sales from the manufacturer. I've seen estimates of up to 40% of people unintentionally have bought counterfeit goods - of course, now you're into the bigger world of counterfeiting and not dealing just with handbags.

However, the bigger problem is people who know it's a knock-off an buy it anyway. These people most likely would not have bought the real thing, but they want the prestige of the label without paying for it. The see it as a victimless crime because they can't directly observe the harm it causes. In this case, it may not be directly costing the designer a loss, but it is putting money into the black market. People who justify their actions by saying it doesn't really hurt the designer because they would never have bought the real thing anyway really irk me. This is not a good reason for supporting counterfeit goods!
 
This sounds awful but when dd21 and I are flying and we are sitting in an airport waiting for a connection, our favorite way to pass the time is playing "Real or Fake".

Been doin this for a long time!

DD and I do that too!
 
This is a complicated question and it doesn't have a straight answer. Yes, there is a percentage that will buy the bags in ignorance thinking they are the real thing. This is particularly true in knock-offs that make it into mainstream retail outlets. In that case, the purchase of the counterfeit is directly taking away sales from the manufacturer. I've seen estimates of up to 40% of people unintentionally have bought counterfeit goods - of course, now you're into the bigger world of counterfeiting and not dealing just with handbags.

However, the bigger problem is people who know it's a knock-off an buy it anyway. These people most likely would not have bought the real thing, but they want the prestige of the label without paying for it. The see it as a victimless crime because they can't directly observe the harm it causes. In this case, it may not be directly costing the designer a loss, but it is putting money into the black market. People who justify their actions by saying it doesn't really hurt the designer because they would never have bought the real thing anyway really irk me. This is not a good reason for supporting counterfeit goods!

I've read that the people paying $75-100 for the junk bag are disappointed when it falls apart after several months. That's quite a bit of money for a bag that doesn't stay together. I also read that here in the US it is not a crime to buy a counterfeit, but in Italy it is!
 
Well, I don't buy my bags (or my daughter's) because someone around here may know "who I am carrying"......I buy the bags because *I* like them and they are quality and, if properly taken care of, will last for decades.

I live in the middle of nowhere too! I either buy directly from the designer website or department stores (like Neiman or Saks) online. When I travel, THEN we get to actually visit the boutiques!
 

On a slightly lighter note, most people where I live haven't a clue who these designers are, which is why I have to drive 2-3 hours to find a boutique! My mother hooked me on Burberry (and Barbour!) when we were living in Wales and when I lived in France, LV REALLY caught my eye! Trust me, no one is impressed here whether I carry a designer bag or a shopping bag from our local Shaws supermarket.

I really love Burberry. They are so classic. Hope a boutique opens up closer to where you live. I like to visit the stores, even if I don't buy anything.:lovestruc
 
I agree, the quality of these items is without question. They do last forever if properly taken care of. Quality and good looks are why we buy them too! That's the sad part about people being deceived into buying the knock-offs. They just won't last.
 
I've read that the people paying $75-100 for the junk bag are disappointed when it falls apart after several months. That's quite a bit of money for a bag that doesn't stay together. I also read that here in the US it is not a crime to buy a counterfeit, but in Italy it is!

My understanding is that it's not illegal to buy them in the US, but it is illegal to sell them. So the seller would be held legally responsible, not the buyer. (But I'm also Canadian, so I may be off this...)
 
My understanding is that it's not illegal to buy them in the US, but it is illegal to sell them. So the seller would be held legally responsible, not the buyer. (But I'm also Canadian, so I may be off this...)

You're right, which just brings me back around to my original post and indignation that the kiosk owner knew that her handbags were fake and it didn't seem to bother her at all that she was selling them.

(I'm Canadian too from Montreal! Living in VT now!)
 
I have a lovely Coach knock-off. MIL bought it for $20 from a lady who walked into the nail salon while she was getting her fill-in. I wouldn't have bought it for myself for $20 or $2000. I just don't care enough about handbags to bother.
 
The righteous indignation is a little tough to swallow. These bags may be good quality but they are still bags. A bag is not inherently worth $1500 or even $500. I have a hard time believing that exploitation or (even trademark infringement) is the primary concern of those who are bent out of shape about this.
 
I have seen these kiosks too. To me, there is enough difference in what they sell.....for example the interlocking CC of Chanel is either the wrong size or located in the wrong place that they can get away with selling it because it is obviously not authentic.

Now a place that puts fake labels/tags on their bags and claims that they are authentic IS breaking the law.
 
Everybody has an opinion and it is certainly yours to share. Everybody has their interests as well. I could not imagine spending hundreds of dollars on tickets to sporting events either, but some people do and I respect their right to do so. I would not mock them for it.
 
I have a lovely Coach knock-off. MIL bought it for $20 from a lady who walked into the nail salon while she was getting her fill-in. I wouldn't have bought it for myself for $20 or $2000. I just don't care enough about handbags to bother.

ITA. It is handbag. And there sure is alot of handbag snobs out there.
 
The righteous indignation is a little tough to swallow. These bags may be good quality but they are still bags. A bag is not inherently worth $1500 or even $500. I have a hard time believing that exploitation or (even trademark infringement) is the primary concern of those who are bent out of shape about this.

ITA with you.
 
I have seen these kiosks too. To me, there is enough difference in what they sell.....for example the interlocking CC of Chanel is either the wrong size or located in the wrong place that they can get away with selling it because it is obviously not authentic.

Now a place that puts fake labels/tags on their bags and claims that they are authentic IS breaking the law.[/QUOTE] Which is why I picked up the Neverfull - it had all of the LV markings on it in all of the right places, the telltale signs were hard to spot, but they were there.
 
Oh, this is about to go downhill!!!! We are having a discussion and someone has to turn it into something that it's not.

We are "bragging" or whatever. I work hard for my money and I spend it HOW I choose on WHATEVER I choose. Not asking "permission.":confused3
 
Oh, this is about to go downhill!!!! We are having a discussion and someone has to turn it into something that it's not.

We are "bragging" or whatever. I work hard for my money and I spend it HOW I choose on WHATEVER I choose. Not asking "permission.":confused3

Exactly.
 
If a person does not like designer bags, why come to this thread to criticize those of us who do? What is the point?
 
The righteous indignation is a little tough to swallow. These bags may be good quality but they are still bags. A bag is not inherently worth $1500 or even $500. I have a hard time believing that exploitation or (even trademark infringement) is the primary concern of those who are bent out of shape about this.

Have you tried the "but it's just pop!" line when it comes to reusing refillable mugs?! ;)

To me the wrongness is because it's wrong. I have done a lot of reading on the subject and I think people in general are far to permissive about brushing any illegal or ethical considerations under the rug. It's easy to say, "it's just a handbag." It's harder to actually think about the consequences of your actions.

From the International Anti Counterfeiting Collation:

It is estimated that counterfeiting is a $600 billion a year problem. In fact, it’s a problem that has grown over 10,000 percent in the past two decades, in part fueled by CONSUMER DEMAND.

The real truth is people who purchase counterfeit merchandise risk funding nefarious activities, contributing to unemployment, creating budget deficits and compromising the future of this country in the global economy.

The real truth is counterfeiters are hardened criminals, exploiting consumers, businesses both large and small, inventors and artists and children laboring in sweatshops in Third World countries.

You should know the truth about counterfeiting.

The Facts:

* Counterfeiting costs U.S. businesses $200 billion to $250 billion annually.
* Counterfeit merchandise is directly responsible for the loss of more than 750,000 American jobs.
* Since 1982, the global trade in illegitimate goods has increased from $5.5 billion to approximately $600 billion annually.
* Approximately 5%-7% of the world trade is in counterfeit goods.
* U.S. companies suffer $9 billion in trade losses due to international copyright piracy.
* Counterfeiting poses a threat to global health and safety.

Consider the DANGEROUS FAKES:
o The Food and Drug Administration estimates that counterfeit drugs account for 10% of all drugs sold in the United States.
o The Federal Aviation Administration estimates that 2% of the 26 million airline parts installed each year are counterfeit, which equals approximately 520,000 parts.
o In 2003, the Motor and Equipment Manufacturers Association cited safety violations due to counterfeit auto parts: brake linings made of compressed grass, sawdust or cardboard; transmission fluid made of cheap oil that is dyed; and oil filters that use rags for the filter element.



Five Reasons You Should Never Fake It:

1. Counterfeiting is illegal and purchasing counterfeit products supports illegal activity.
2. Counterfeiters do not pay taxes meaning less money for your city's schools, hospitals, parks and other social programs.
3. Counterfeiters do not pay their employees fair wages or benefits, have poor working conditions, and often use forced child labor.
4. The profits from counterfeiting have been linked to funding organized crime, drug trafficking and terrorist activity.
5. When you purchase a fake, you become part of the cycle of counterfeiting and your money directly support these things you would never want to support.
 














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