Could Pamela Smart actually be innocent??

Implicated: showed to be involved in a crime. A fictionalized account of an actual event released four years after the trial in question ended cant reasonably be considers to be in any way responsible for or influencing th outcome of said trial. Public opinion is completely separate and has zero effect on the results of said trial - four or 25 years later.

I think the bolded was aschwa's point.
You may not have read the original post quoted as implying anything but people read things differently.
The movie isn't even a good example of a movie based on a true story. The movie is based on a fictitious book that was inspired by the Pam Smart case and trial.
 

For those of you who think that the media convicted Pamela Smart, I was just reminded about another case in California that had media coverage and movies and books that were released. Leslie Van Houten, a follower of Charles Manson was convicted in the 1970s of two murders. During her original trial, her first attorney disappeared. Even so, she was convicted and sentenced to death, it was commuted to life after the death penalty was found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court. In 1977, she was granted a retrial, and also had a second retrial. After the second one she was found guilty and sentenced again to life imprisonment. There was a movie that was released in 1976, and a book before that called Helter Skelter. There was also a book called The Family that was definitely out in 1977. I recall seeing it that year translated into Hebrew. Even in the book, Helter Skelter, Bugliosi wrote that he had very little hard evidence against Van Houten and mostly the word of a couple of people. Even with all those out there, Van Houten was again convicted on witness testimony and the evidence that was had, not because of a movie that had been shown on tv that was based on the investigation. The movie identifies her by name and makes a solid case that Van Houten murdered those people.

I was reading about the Documentary of Pamela Smart, and she is not happy that Nicole Kidman didn't talk to her before making the movie. Smart isn't unhappy with the movie, just that the actress didn't talk with her about the character.


it's been decades since I originally read 'helter skelter' but I'm currently in the process of rereading it so this comment caught my attention.

I would think the fact that (pre trial/pre convictions/pre-many of the appropriate arrests) leslie voluntarily provided the police with the names of all the family members involved in the tate and labianca murders-who was there, who killed, who did not.....as well as admitted she had direct personal knowledge of what occurred during the 2 murders she was convicted of was sufficient enough evidence (unless it was totally inadmissible).

as far as her retrials go-she and her attorneys never argued that she didn't participate in murdering the labiancas, their argument was that she had a diminished capacity that should be considered, diminished by virtue of her lsd use and manson's influence.
 
Speaking of parole - all three men involved in the murder have now been paroled.
 
For what it's worth, I got what you were saying Deb.


WillyJ
Thanks, WillyJ!

By the way, I don't think I've said yet how happy I am to see you back here! We go back a long way, don't we?
Hope all has been well with you and it is great to have you back again!
 
Thanks, WillyJ!

By the way, I don't think I've said yet how happy I am to see you back here! We go back a long way, don't we?
Hope all has been well with you and it is great to have you back again!


How kind of you to say that!! :)

Yep, we go back a long way. . . so pleased to see you're still here! :)


Willy
 



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