Cost Per Point, Per Year, Per Night

CanadaDisney05

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As it has been discussed at great lengths in many threads about the high point chart of Riviera, I figured I'd put together some concrete data. I only had the patience of doing this for standard studios, as those seem to be the rooms with the highest demand, where the 11 month booking window is the most critical. I also didn't include AKL value studios, or Riviera's Tower Studios. I also only did this using direct costs.

Adventure Season:

ResortCost Per Point Per YearPoints Per NightCost Per NightResort Rank
Bay Lake Tower
Polynesian
Grand Floridian
Grand Californian
Riviera
Vero Beach
Hilton Head
Boardwalk
Beach Club
Copper Creek
Boulder Ridge
Aulani
Old Key West
Animal Kingdom
Saratoga Springs
11.89
11.76
11.83
12.61
12.07
14.26
13.82
15.43
16.72
11.72
14.97
12.23
11.34
12.07
10.97
11.57
16.86
17.86
18.43
15.57
13.43
7.71
10.86
15.29
15.29
15.29
17.00
10.86
11.57
11.86
137.56
198.24
211.33
232.41
187.95
191.53
106.62
167.54
255.62
179.08
228.86
207.95
123.07
139.69
130.09
4
10
12
14
8
9
1
6
15
7
13
11
2
5
3
 
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CanadaDisney05

DIS Veteran
Joined
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Choice Season:

ResortCost Per Point Per YearPoints Per NightCost Per NightResort
Bay Lake Tower
Polynesian
Grand Floridian
Grand Californian
Riviera
Vero Beach
Hilton Head
Boardwalk
Beach Club
Copper Creek
Boulder Ridge
Aulani
Old Key West
Animal Kingdom
Saratoga Springs

11.89
11.76
11.83
12.61
12.07
14.26
13.82
15.43
16.72
11.72
14.97
12.23
11.34
12.07
10.97

12.57
18.57
17.86
21.14
16.86
14.43
11.43
11.14
15.29
15.29
15.29
19.00
11.14
12.57
13.14

149.45
218.40
211.33
266.64
203.47
205.79
157.95
171.94
255.62
179.08
228.86
232.41
126.31
151.76
144.20

3
11
10
15
8
9
5
6
14
7
12
13
1
4
2

 

CanadaDisney05

DIS Veteran
Joined
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Dream Season:


Resort
Cost Per Point Per YearPoints Per NightCost Per NightResort Rank
Bay Lake Tower
Polynesian
Grand Floridian
Grand Californian
Riviera
Vero Beach
Hilton Head
Boardwalk
Beach Club
Copper Creek
Boulder Ridge
Aulani
Old Key West
Animal Kingdom
Saratoga Springs
11.89
11.76
11.83
12.61
12.07
14.26
13.82
15.43
16.72
11.72
14.97
12.23
11.34
12.07
10.97
13.57
21.86
21.86
NA
18.57
16.86
16.57
14.86
17.14
17.14
17.14
NA
14.14
13.57
14.14
161.33
257.04
258.67
0.00
224.16
240.43
229.03
229.26
286.67
200.84
256.67
0.00
160.31
163.83
155.17
3
11
12
NA
6
9
7
8
13
5
10
NA
2
4
1
 
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  • CanadaDisney05

    DIS Veteran
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    Magic Season:

    ResortCost Per Point Per YearPoints Per NightCost Per NightResort Rank
    Bay Lake Tower
    Polynesian
    Grand Floridian
    Grand Californian
    Riviera
    Vero Beach
    Hilton Head
    Boardwalk
    Beach Club
    Copper Creek
    Boulder Ridge
    Aulani
    Old Key West
    Animal Kingdom
    Saratoga Springs
    11.89
    11.76
    11.83
    12.61
    12.07
    14.26
    13.82
    15.43
    16.72
    11.72
    14.97
    12.23
    11.34
    12.07
    10.97
    16.57
    24.14
    24.14
    27.71
    22.86
    18.14
    NA
    15.43
    19.14
    18.14
    18.14
    22.00
    15.43
    16.57
    15.14
    197.00
    283.92
    285.72
    349.52
    275.89
    258.76
    0.00
    238.08
    320.12
    212.56
    271.64
    269.11
    174.89
    200.04
    166.14
    3
    11
    12
    14
    10
    7
    NA
    6
    13
    5
    9
    8
    2
    4
    1
     
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    CanadaDisney05

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
    Mar 20, 2017
    Premier Season:

    ResortCost Per Point Per YearPoints Per NightCost Per NightResort Rank
    Bay Lake Tower
    Polynesian
    Grand Floridian
    Grand Californian
    Riviera
    Vero Beach
    Hilton Head
    Boardwalk
    Beach Club
    Copper Creek
    Boulder Ridge
    Aulani
    Old Key West
    Animal Kingdom
    Saratoga Springs
    11.89
    11.76
    11.83
    12.61
    12.07
    14.26
    13.82
    15.43
    16.72
    11.72
    14.97
    12.23
    11.34
    12.07
    10.97
    20.86
    32.43
    32.43
    32.00
    29.14
    24.71
    18.43
    21.43
    25.86
    25.14
    25.14
    24.00
    21.71
    20.86
    21.43
    247.95
    381.36
    383.77
    403.57
    351.75
    352.49
    254.70
    330.66
    432.40
    294.57
    376.44
    293.57
    246.14
    251.78
    235.10
    3
    12
    13
    14
    9
    10
    5
    8
    15
    7
    11
    6
    2
    4
    1
     
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    kboo

    DIS Veteran
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    Mar 10, 2014
    This is based on dues and direct prices? Thanks for figuring this out!
     

    bwvBound

    DVC SSR & other timeshare
    Joined
    Feb 5, 2004
    Your “Cost per point per year” assumes each property is purchased Direct at current pricing? With remaining years on contract?

    (Sure glad my points are now more than 15 years old ... with a corresponding lower Cost per point per year.)
     

    CanadaDisney05

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
    Mar 20, 2017
    Your “Cost per point per year” assumes each property is purchased Direct at current pricing? With remaining years on contract?

    (Sure glad my points are now more than 15 years old ... with a corresponding lower Cost per point per year.)
    Yes it is. So for example, if you bought Beach Club, your amortizing $225 per point over 23 years vs $188 at Riviera over 50 years.
     

    kboo

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
    Mar 10, 2014
    NOT that I'm suggesting you do this on your day off, but I wonder how RIV stacks up with resale at a larger block of points level. We were deciding between adding on 200-ish points at BLT so we'd have enough points to easily get 1-2BR, or the same # of points at RIV. We picked RIV for a number of reasons, but at the larger point levels, with developer incentives at the time, we paid something like $165-$166/pt and broke the contract up into 3 smaller contracts if we needed to sell. At the time, BLT had to be $145 and up to pass ROFR.

    (I am at work trying to catch up on stuff as the office is closed, but if I start procrastinating ....)
     

    CanadaDisney05

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
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    NOT that I'm suggesting you do this on your day off, but I wonder how RIV stacks up with resale at a larger block of points level. We were deciding between adding on 200-ish points at BLT so we'd have enough points to easily get 1-2BR, or the same # of points at RIV. We picked RIV for a number of reasons, but at the larger point levels, with developer incentives at the time, we paid something like $165-$166/pt and broke the contract up into 3 smaller contracts if we needed to sell. At the time, BLT had to be $145 and up to pass ROFR.

    (I am at work trying to catch up on stuff as the office is closed, but if I start procrastinating ....)
    This sounds like a project to be looked at when I'm back in the office.
     

    Ruttangel

    Mouseketeer
    Joined
    Jun 21, 2013
    Interesting stuff, resale PVB is regularly in top 3 when looking at total cost ppt per year but the high point usage is a factor that would drop that significantly as well.
    Would be good to see a resale version of this with average purchase prices in the last year.
    I might even give that a go......
     

    CanadaDisney05

    DIS Veteran
    Joined
    Mar 20, 2017
    Interesting stuff, resale PVB is regularly in top 3 when looking at total cost ppt per year but the high point usage is a factor that would drop that significantly as well.
    Would be good to see a resale version of this with average purchase prices in the last year.
    I might even give that a go......
    That would be awesome to see

    Edit: Realized I actually have the formulas all set. Took me two minutes to punch in the avg resale price from DVC Resale Market. I'll try and upload the tables in here later today or tomorrow. Taking a quick look, while there are some small jumps, the rankings are pretty close. For example PVB is ranked 10 or 11 in all seasons. With direct pricing, PVB is between 10 to 12 in all seasons

    Edit #2: Since we don't really have resale prices for Riviera, I assumed 188 was it's resale value. This would rank it between 11 and 14, so closer to the bottom. Of course, you get the added economic benefits of the Blue Card.
     
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    emchen

    Let's explore!
    Joined
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    @CanadaDisney05 ...thank you for factoring in the points-chart variability to the CPP per year data! This is terrific! Now we can begin to really compare apples to apples! I like them apples!
     

    Ruttangel

    Mouseketeer
    Joined
    Jun 21, 2013
    See my edit above. The only difference I think between yours and mine is the resale prices. I used DVC Resale Market's September report as my source. Either way, resale is a bit more of a guess because there is more variability on pricing.
    You should get an award for this, DisBoarder of the week!!!!
     

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