Cost of DL to WDW

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Was thinking of doing a WDW trip in the next year or two and was wondering about prices so I looked them up. I was shocked that WDW cost the same if not less then WDW.

All things being equal

Disneyland Hotel was $4,065.50

And at WDW

All Star was $4250.57
Port Orleans was $3330.75


Now is this the norm that you can go to WDW for less then DL? Or is there something I am missing?
 
There is something strange with your analysis. All star is a value and Port Orleans is a moderate. Did you reverse the prices? DLH costs about what a delux in Disneyworld starts at. More inline with WL and AKL.

At DL you can go cheaper by staying on Harbor. Somewhere between 2/3 to just as much as a value resort at WDW.

Also at WDW you could spend $45 a day on the dining plan and it's easier to spend less than that at DL. But really dining should be taken out of the calculation all together because it's not comparable between the two resorts.

The main difference is trip length. Since a typical wdw visit is 1 week and DL 1 day.

From my experience within the same year I went with my son to both. DL for half as long as WDW. DL was about 45% as much as WDW. But that includes gas and fastfood on the way to and from DL but not the plane to WDW.
 
I believe you have a typo, and are trying to say that you didn't expect Disneyland to be more than WDW. That said, you have only looked into the on-site properties for Disneyland. While a lot of travelers stay on-site at WDW for convenience, it's just not the same at DL. Most off-site properties are much MUCH less than the on-sites (at LEAST half the cost per night) and are just as close, if not much closer. This means that most people stay off-site when they visit DL, which keeps costs down considerably. Now, if staying at a Disney property is paramount to you then yes, unfortunately the on-sites here at Disneyland are quite expensive, but if you simply want to compare the two parks and their prices, try searching for off-site hotels in Anaheim.
 
Just for kicks, I priced a WDW vacation. A family of four, my DD is now 10 so that means an adult ticket for her. DS will be 3 in Januray so that means we'll have to pay for a ticket for him. We always stay off site at DL because I can't justify the cost for a DL hotel. A 4 night/3 day park hopper vacation for us runs $1200 booked through disney travel. I crunched the numbers and found if I bought hotel and tickets seprate I could drop the cost to $950. We use disney travel because we are able to make payments.

A 8 night/7 day no hopper vacation for our family at POFQ would run over $3000( again through disney travel). That doesn't include food or airfair. Staying off site, booking hotel and tickets separately for the same amount of days and same month (may) I dropped the price to $1600. According to reviews I've read the hotel I was looking has more sq footage, softer beds, and plushy pillows. Kids eat free breakfast buffet and use of DTD buses (also run better than WDW buses).

Then I have to add air from CA to FL (we always drive to DL) and food. So, for the cost of just hotel and tickets through disney travel, We can have the whole enchilada if I book everything by itself and stay off site.
 

I Just did an average room cost for 2 adults and 2 kid at the hojo for one week( 12/13 to 12/17), this is a awesome off-site hotel that a lot of us members do use!


I just randomly picked dates and this is what It gave me :

The hojo website gave me 3 different packages or deals, for 2 adults and 2 children for one room


1st package was stay two nites and you got 2 vouchers for harlem globe trotters and the average room given was 2 double beds standard room for $109 per night.


2nd package was stay 2 nights get 20% off….

The average room given was 2 double beds standard room for $87.20 per night

And the 3rd package that was given was the best available rate package again 2 double beds standard room for $109 per night.
 
...Now is this the norm that you can go to WDW for less then DL? Or is there something I am missing?

I have not run the numbers since the above posters have done so, but I was just curious about your closing question. Did you expect DL to be cheaper? Why?

- Dreams
 
The totals for package 1 and 2 are $510.12 that is with taxes!

The total cost for package 3 is $408.10 that is also with taxes!

Both taxes are the for random dates I picked ..that is the average total cost of the standard rooms I gave you
 
My numbers are correct per WDW travel. Prices I showed is a family of 5(3 adults, 2 kids) for Christmas next year 12/22-12/29 both with hoppers for 6 days. Also looked at a special for end of August(IIRC it was when you get free dining and the Port is cheaper there also).

Anyhow I was comparing a Disney property to another Disney Property, We stay on Harbour when we go to DL. And when we went o WDW we stayed at the "economy" hotel.

I always thought WDW was alot more per day. Guess we may shoot for WDW for our next trip. Only thing that kills us is airfare. May just piece meal the trip and save where we can.
 
Now here is the ticket cost for 2 adults and 2 kids over the age of 10, all have park hoppers


For 4 adults( 10 and over is considered adult) for a 4 day park hopper is $182 per person….

Here is the totally it would cost that family of 4-- $728.
 
There is something strange with your analysis. All star is a value and Port Orleans is a moderate. Did you reverse the pricefrom DL but not the plane to WDW.

My numbers are correct per WDW travel. Prices I showed is a family of 5(3 adults, s) for Christmas next year 12/22-12/29 both with hop2 kidpers for 6 days. Also looked at a special for end of August(IIRC it was when you get free dining and the Port is cheaper there also).


Actually, I don't see anything strange at all. I think the key here is that the DLH resorts will let you book (and therefore get a quote for) 5 in a regular (i.e. non-suite) room. At WDW, the options for a family of 5 become more limited. I put in the OP's criteria with the December dates and got a Port Orleans quote for a waterside room with 2 double beds and a trundle for the 5th person. The All-Star Music quote was for a Family Suite that includes 2 bathrooms and a mini kitchen. There was no other room type offered. All-Star Movies and any of the other value resorts will not allow (and therefore there will be no online quote given for) a party of more than four people. For the two WDW resorts, this is not an apples to apples comparison by any means. The quotes I got were not exactly the numbers the OP posted, but they were extremely close.

It's this little caveat, combined with cross-country airfare, that puts WDW out of the running every time I try to price a WDW vacation. We'll stick with DLR off-site.
 
I think realistically pricing a 4 day DLR trip against a 6 day WDW trip is more apples to apples. Of course every day you add to a hopper actually decreases the price per day....but the savings is offset by other expenses.
 
Actually, I don't see anything strange at all. I think the key here is that the DLH resorts will let you book (and therefore get a quote for) 5 in a regular (i.e. non-suite) room. At WDW, the options for a family of 5 become more limited. I put in the OP's criteria with the December dates and got a Port Orleans quote for a waterside room with 2 double beds and a trundle for the 5th person. The All-Star Music quote was for a Family Suite that includes 2 bathrooms and a mini kitchen. There was no other room type offered. All-Star Movies and any of the other value resorts will not allow (and therefore there will be no online quote given for) a party of more than four people. For the two WDW resorts, this is not an apples to apples comparison by any means. The quotes I got were not exactly the numbers the OP posted, but they were extremely close.

It's this little caveat, combined with cross-country airfare, that puts WDW out of the running every time I try to price a WDW vacation. We'll stick with DLR off-site.



Thanks for that. When we book offssite at DL we just put 4 as it makes rooms easier and when you go al carte you can do that.

Why is it you cannot do more than 4 in a room? Kinda odd as we did Carosuel with 3 kids 2 of which where in play pens. Wanna talk about a crowded hotel room:lmao:
 
Thanks for that. When we book offssite at DL we just put 4 as it makes rooms easier and when you go al carte you can do that.

Why is it you cannot do more than 4 in a room? Kinda odd as we did Carosuel with 3 kids 2 of which where in play pens. Wanna talk about a crowded hotel room:lmao:

I've never been to WDW, so I really can't give the reasoning why the limits for the Values are what they are. I'm sure it's based on local laws, fire codes, and who knows what else. Any hotel room anywhere is going to have a max occupancy of some number for those same reasons, KWIM?

We take DH's mother with us to DLR, which makes us a party of 6, so we kind of run into the DLR version of this same issue. To stay on site, we would have to book 2 rooms or a suite. Either way, we'd be looking in the neighborhood of $600 per night. To me, there's no justification for this when we can get a Kids' Suite at Hojo for $99 with the Entertainment Rate. (Before any flames fly, we had 6 in the Kids' Suite with the permission of the hotel).

This last trip, we decided that 6 even in a suite was going to be too crowded for a 10 day duration. We were at HOJO (5 of us) for the first 3 nights until DH flew down and joined us, and then rented a privately owned condo within walking distance for the remaining week. It ended up being perfect for us! .....and about 1/4 the cost of getting 2 rooms on site. :thumbsup2
 
I haven't run any numbers like others have, but we DO find WDW to be cheaper, not including our flights of course. For this reason we have always stayed off site at DLR. The hotels in DLR are MUCH more expensive as real estate values are much higher in California.

The main reason WDW is cheaper for us is we take advantage of free dining offers. We are able to stay in a deluxe hotel for $240 per night including free dining for 3 people ($120 value minimum) cutting that room cost down to $120. The best I can get at GCH is $220 ish (with PIN) and no food. I'm actually paying it this time, because we love the immersion of staying onsite. We also find the prices of food in the parks at DLR to be slightly higher. Of course we realize that there are many places to eat within walking distance much cheaper, but if you are comparing Parks to Parks than WDW is cheaper.

One thing that is more at WDW is park tickets. The hoppers are cheaper for DLR, but of course there are only 2 parks, not 4.

For us DLR is the choice when we don't have time to lose 2 days travelling. WDW is so far:scared1:.
 
If you stay onsite. WDW AllStar and Pop Century are cheaper than DisneyLand Hotels.

Also you get a free ride to and from the airport and free bus transportation to the parks...

Counter Service Food at WDW can be a dollar or two cheaper per person per meal.

But of course the length of stay is what gets you...

If you stay at a moderate at WDW then the quality goes up and the enjoyment as well..

Most do not mind paying extra for more days / better quality. :-)

If you are dealing with a fixed dollar amount that DL is likely the better choice as the stay can be shorter...
 
When we stayed at WDW 7 years ago we did it in 4 days:cool1: Saw most of everything and stayed at the economy resort which was nice.

Only hard part was we had a PS for lunch at the castle, well 2 days before we flew we had a death in the family. Disney was great. So we made another reservation for it all but they couldn't get us into the castle for any meal. Well day before we flew I got a PS for like 730am breakfast so I took it. Well my bad as we got to bed at something like 3am after flying through a storm. Wife and I where exhausted but my girl loved every minute of it. And thats all that matters.


The next time we go I'd like to do Christmas but I don't know if we wanna be gone that long, pay that much and miss alot due to crowds.

Would like to go off peak for 8 days when its warm so we can hit a waterpark mid trip.
 
Just for kicks, I priced a WDW vacation. A family of four, my DD is now 10 so that means an adult ticket for her. DS will be 3 in Januray so that means we'll have to pay for a ticket for him. We always stay off site at DL because I can't justify the cost for a DL hotel. A 4 night/3 day park hopper vacation for us runs $1200 booked through disney travel. I crunched the numbers and found if I bought hotel and tickets seprate I could drop the cost to $950. We use disney travel because we are able to make payments.

A 8 night/7 day no hopper vacation for our family at POFQ would run over $3000( again through disney travel). That doesn't include food or airfair. Staying off site, booking hotel and tickets separately for the same amount of days and same month (may) I dropped the price to $1600. According to reviews I've read the hotel I was looking has more sq footage, softer beds, and plushy pillows. Kids eat free breakfast buffet and use of DTD buses (also run better than WDW buses).

Then I have to add air from CA to FL (we always drive to DL) and food. So, for the cost of just hotel and tickets through disney travel, We can have the whole enchilada if I book everything by itself and stay off site.


Yes, it's often much cheaper staying off site at WDW....but a few things to consider:

Transportation to the parks from your offsite home.....DL has so many off site hotels that are in walking range. At WDW this is not the case. You'll either need a rental car (parking fees apply unless you stay on site or have a WDW AP). Some hotels do offer shuttles...but be sure to check how often they run and how early/late they're available.

Another choice, besides the hotels off site is to get a vacation home/condo. I know when I first heard that choice I assumed it was too expensive, but was very pleasantly surprised to find that very often it's as cheap as one of the tiny hotels off site, much better maintained, bigger because it's a home/condo not a single room with a bed or two, and of course has the full kitchen and a free washer/dryer in most cases. We've done this a couple times and have used vrbo.com (vacation rental by owner). For instance, I just went to vbro.com and plugged in Disney World....there is a 3 bedroom HOME for $70 a night. Windsor Hills, a condo resort that is always very highly recommended here on DIS has a 2 bd for $75 and is among the closest to WDW. Some have shuttles.

Now, we've also stayed on site....and it's very cool to immerse yourself in Disney everywhere. The deluxe hotels are pretty pricey, but the values and moderates are well maintained, fabulously themed and frankly, only a few square feet smaller than the deluxe and they cost a more reasonable amount. That cost depends on when you go of course, but it's not unusual to find deals in the $60-70 range for a value and less than $100 for a moderate. Their regular rack rates are about $100 for a value and $150 for a moderate (again, depending on when you go). A 10 year old is likely to LOVE the over the top Disneyfied themeing of a value....but the moderates are really beautiful as well, just a little less in-your-face Disney theme, they are themed to a specific style...Port Orleans is Civil War era manor houses, Caribbean is very tropical in color and landscape (and they have some cool Pirate themed rooms for an added cost); Coronado is very southwest is color scheme, etc.

Another deal to watch for is when they offer free dining. You have to pay full rack rate for the hotel room, but you get that $45 per day dining plan included. And the dining plan at WDW is worlds apart (pun intended) than DL....with the WDW dining plan at a moderate hotel you get 1 Table Service, 1 Counter Service and 1 snack each day. At the value hotel you get their Quick Service which is 2 Counter Service, a snack and a free refill mug (free refills for the length of your stay at the Hotel food court...soda, juice, tea, coffee, hot cocoa, etc). You can pay a small charge per day to upgrade to the same plan as the moderate. There are over 100 Table Service restaurants, so unlike DL, most people do a Table Service every day. At these TS you get your entree, non-alcoholic drink and a dessert. This very often is more than the $45 cost of the dining plan. There is also a Deluxe Dining PLan (which is what the free plan is at the Deluxe hotels) that you can upgrade to from a moderate or value. It gives you 3 meals a day, your choice of whether to use them as Table or Counter, 2 snacks and I think the mug too....but most people who are not die-hard foodies find this too much food! This is the first year that Disney has offered SO MANY free dining dates....originally is was only early Fall, then a couple years ago they added in some November/December dates, and for 2011 there are literally hundreds of dates for free dining.

If you stay off site you can't get the dining plans....and food cost is very similiar to DL, though you have a lot more choices!

Yet another option, which I can't really help with because we've never done it, is buying points to someone else's Disney Vacation Club timeshare. There is a whole section for this on DIS boards.
 
When we stayed at WDW 7 years ago we did it in 4 days:cool1: Saw most of everything and stayed at the economy resort which was nice.

Only hard part was we had a PS for lunch at the castle, well 2 days before we flew we had a death in the family. Disney was great. So we made another reservation for it all but they couldn't get us into the castle for any meal. Well day before we flew I got a PS for like 730am breakfast so I took it. Well my bad as we got to bed at something like 3am after flying through a storm. Wife and I where exhausted but my girl loved every minute of it. And thats all that matters.


The next time we go I'd like to do Christmas but I don't know if we wanna be gone that long, pay that much and miss alot due to crowds.

Would like to go off peak for 8 days when its warm so we can hit a waterpark mid trip.

Oh a good point! Another big difference between DL and WDW is the absolute NEED for reservations. At WDW you can make reservations ONLINE or by calling, and can do it 180 days ahead of time. If you're staying onsite you can make up to 10 days worth of reservations at your 180 day mark. Things like the Castle and Le Cellier and a few others are coveted reservations and DIS boards actually lists strategies for getting them, lol. It's a little insane actually. We were lucky enough to get reservations for these hard to get places, but I did have to check back quite a few times to finally snag them.

Definitely try to go for the holiday decorations if you can! They are even more impressive than at DL...and all the hotels are decorated in a themed way so it's actually fun to check out the hotels on purpose not just because you're staying or eating there!

Like Disneyland there are semi-uncrowded times (after Thanksgiving to mid December), crazy busy times (mid December to Christmas week) and "what are you even thinking" busy times between Christmas and New Year.

WDW has Candlelight Processional but it is so much better than at DL. WDW has a couple dozen dates, rather than just 2 like DL, AND, you can make reservations for dinner and tickets to seating for CP. So you can have a nice comfy seat instead of standing in the crowds for hours, lol. They also have quite a few speakers which makes it nice to get a choice (depending on your dates of course).

WDW also has the Osborne Lights, which is where they turn an entire street of Hollywood Studios (think Hollywood Backlot at DCA) into a Christmas lights and figures display. Think of that house in your town that is on the news every year for their over the top light display...and multiply it by 10, lol.

WDW also has Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party which is a special event (aka extra money) but was quite a bit of fun when we went. Like DL's halloween party it closes the park down at 7pm to daytime guests and puts on a big party. Special parade, special fireworks, characters you don't see regularly, all the characters in their special Christmas outfits, and lots of other special treats. Expensive, but worth it at least once.

WDW requires a bit more planning simply because there is so much more to see, do and eat, lol. DIS boards was absolutely instrumental in my planning for our first trip and making it even better than I had hoped. It can get a little overwhelming just because there is SO much to consider, but check it out and be discerning in what is important to you for your first visit and you should be just fine.
 
Typically at WDW it takes several more days for a vacation there. They realize this and purposely price the package cheaper for the longer stay. So what gives? They figure they will get you on food, souvenirs, and other recreational activities. And they do!
 


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