Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[Karin1984]

Quick question for any antibody experts- I’ve read some initial reports (and like everything with CoVid it’s small sample observation and hypothesis still) that the antibody loads can vary a lot with this, and there’s a theory that those with much milder or asymptomatic cases have far fewer antibodies and may be less protected. Is that how other corona or influenza viruses antibodies work too? Are there ones out there that give you more/less immunity based on previous severity of your case?

What we have been told the study The Netherlands is doing is that yes, those with mild symptoms develop less antibodies. But those with severe symptoms and therefore many antibodies don't necessarily are better off.
It's better to have a few antibodies that are fully functioning and offer protection, then many antibodies that are malfunctioning and over less or no protection.

Another study that has been done that I found interesting is, we know already that children don't get sick often, if they get sick most of them only have mild symptoms. What they have now discovered is that if children get symptoms, less than 16% of them get a fever, and even less have respiratory issues.
This is a study done in Brazil by the university of Campinas.

So if themeparks and cruise lines want to reopen and temperature everyone, then that's mainly effective for the adults.

 

[o&smom]

What we have been told the study The Netherlands is doing is that yes, those with mild symptoms develop less antibodies. But those with severe symptoms and therefore many antibodies don't necessarily are better off.
It's better to have a few antibodies that are fully functioning and offer protection, then many antibodies that are malfunctioning and over less or no protection.

Another study that has been done that I found interesting is, we know already that children don't get sick often, if they get sick most of them only have mild symptoms. What they have now discovered is that if children get symptoms, less than 16% of them get a fever, and even less have respiratory issues.
This is a study done in Brazil by the university of Campinas.

So if themeparks and cruise lines want to reopen and temperature everyone, then that's mainly effective for the adults.

I agree that the temperature checks do not allow for much help. I think they should do them, because if a fever is present those people should not be allowed on the ship. The problems with this are that the incubation period is between 5 and 14 days. People may get a fever after they have embarked. The bigger problem is what you stated that many children do not present with fever. They are also finding this with adults. My husband and I tested positive and neither of us had a fever or any of the symptoms that we were all taught to look out for. Our state is tracking symptoms of all people testing positive and it is amazing how many people never had a fever. Tied into this is people’s ideas that a rapid test will also catch those before they embark. That test is only for a moment in time. You may test negative one day and the next you show positive results once you are already on the ship. This whole wide incubation period just makes this a bigger mess.

 

[MomOTwins]

I think they should do them, because if a fever is present those people should not be allowed on the ship.

I'm not sure I even agree with this part. There are a lot of people that "run hot" generally, and also people who have medical issues that produce a fever despite not being contagious. This is partly why the medical form has, in the past, always asked if you have had a fever PLUS another symptom of infectious disease like cough, runny nose, sore throat.

But yeah, the bigger problem is just that being "fever free" (whether naturally, or because you take some advil before heading to the port) is a very poor proxy for being COVID-positive, given how many people transmit the disease without a fever.

 

[FightingIrishman]

I'm not sure I even agree with this part. There are a lot of people that "run hot" generally, and also people who have medical issues that produce a fever despite not being contagious. This is partly why the medical form has, in the past, always asked if you have had a fever PLUS another symptom of infectious disease like cough, runny nose, sore throat.

But yeah, the bigger problem is just that being "fever free" (whether naturally, or because you take some advil before heading to the port) is a very poor proxy for being COVID-positive, given how many people transmit the disease without a fever.

I think Disney would take it a step further and if you have a fever, you would be evaluated with a follow-up questionaire and/or COVID19 rapid test. Body temperature is not an absolute indicator or disease but could be used as a quick method for mass screening.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I think Disney would take it a step further and if you have a fever, you would be evaluated with a follow-up questionaire and/or COVID19 rapid test. Body temperature is not an absolute indicator or disease but could be used as a quick method for mass screening.

...if they could get a rapid test. Right now, they are extremely hard to come by in the US.

 

[mmackeymouse]

...if they could get a rapid test. Right now, they are extremely hard to come by in the US.

I've suggested, and it was partially in jest, but I'm getting more and more serious.....and Pete actually mentioned it on a recent show too....I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility for Disney to pay big, BIG bucks to create their own Covid Testing crew, including manufacturing of tests. I wouldn't be shocked at all.

 

[Theactualdisneyprincess]

What is the updated deadline to cruise for the 125% value credit if your cruise is canceled? When you find out that your trip has been canceled, how long do you have to decide on what you would like to do and how/when you switch to a later date? Hoping that our July 5th Bahamian cruise isn't canceled, but trying to be proactive in the event that it is.

 

[MomOTwins]

What is the updated deadline to cruise for the 125% value credit if your cruise is canceled? When you find out that your trip has been canceled, how long do you have to decide on what you would like to do and how/when you switch to a later date? Hoping that our July 5th Bahamian cruise isn't canceled, but trying to be proactive in the event that it is.

15 months

 

[Tay N Evie's Mom]

Caribbean & Bahama cruises for May & early June no longer appearing on DCL website. The announcement will probably come today. I’m scheduled for May 23rd, so I have been tracking this. When the early May ones disappeared the announcement was made that day.

 

[Karin1984]

My brother is working on the protocol for theatre goers for his theatre, so not the shows/plays/etc. yet, but it is a start. It's in Dutch, but I think you can get most of what his plan is. Only order tickets online, and have time slots to arrive at the theater, wait and then enter the theater.
If attendance on a Disney cruise ship is at 25 or 40%, and they would add a third show, do you think this could work on DCL? Maybe add a reservation system to reserve a certain show, to avoid people being send away.

Of course, the broadway shows are out , as the actors not being able to social distance. But some of the other entertainment like singers, magicians, comedians, ventrilloquists, speakers for Marvel/Star Wars day/Panama Canal etc. or showing movies, should be possible, I think.

 

[Trera]

Caribbean & Bahama cruises for May & early June no longer appearing on DCL website. The announcement will probably come today. I’m scheduled for May 23rd, so I have been tracking this. When the early May ones disappeared the announcement was made that day.

I can still see late june cruises that would sail to the bahamas or the carribbean. Looks like June 20th is the soonest you could book so if they are planning cancellations.................it would be for sailings up to and including 6/19

 

[Meriweather]

Oh good....hope they announce the next round of cancellations soon.
I have June 6

 

[rwcmick]

Just received our cancellation notice today for the Magic. I have a couple of questions and was wondering if someone could assist me.

1. If I wish to get a refund, but had a $100 future cruise deposit, can I have what I paid refunded minus the $100 and put that back in the bank so that at some point in the future I can reserve another cruise and get the 10% discount and onboard credit?

2. Can I elect to receive my refund via check or a different credit card than I put the cruise reservation on?

Thanks!

 

[Trera]

i would think the answer would be no to both questions but maybe someone that cancelled recently could share an experience where the results were different.

 

[tidefan]

Just received notification that our July 1st Greek Isles on the Magic has been cancelled.

 

[wombat_5606]

Scott has just posted on his blog that emails are coming for Dream and Fantasy until June 18. You can hear a recorded message at DCL.

https://disneycruiselineblog.com/20...-dream-fantasy-sailings-through-june-18-2020/

 

[Trera]

Scott has just posted on his blog that emails are coming for Dream and Fantasy until June 18. You can hear a recorded message at DCL.

https://disneycruiselineblog.com/20...-dream-fantasy-sailings-through-june-18-2020/

Good info. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Unfortunately our cruise of 6/26 hasn't been cancelled yet.

 

[Ralph&Pam]

Just received our cancellation notice today for the Magic. I have a couple of questions and was wondering if someone could assist me.

1. If I wish to get a refund, but had a $100 future cruise deposit, can I have what I paid refunded minus the $100 and put that back in the bank so that at some point in the future I can reserve another cruise and get the 10% discount and onboard credit?

2. Can I elect to receive my refund via check or a different credit card than I put the cruise reservation on?

Thanks!

No, once you request the refund, any OBB benefits are lost. We lost OBB discounts with $200 stateroom credits for the Vancouver to Hawaii cruise on the Wonder and (today) the 12-night Med-Greek Islands cruise on the Magic. All refunds go back to the original form of payment. For credit cards, that’s a card issuer rule, since giving a cash refund for payments that have been charged to a credit card would amount to a direct cash dispersal, avoiding the hefty fees that the credit card issuers normally get for cash advances on credit cards. DCL doesn’t know if you have a open balance on the CC. Additionally, there is the issue of rewards benefits received at the time when the charges were incurred. With the Disney Chase Visa, I have seen that the bank recovers the 2% credit when the refund hits the account. This shows up as a reduction in the rewards balance on the next statement. It’s even possible to have a negative rewards balance if the rewards received have already been applied. This actually makes some sense, since otherwise someone could incur charges to get the rewards, then return the merchandise or cancel the purchase to get a refund but keep the rewards money.

 

[ColoradoMom12]

Unfortunately our cruise of 6/26 hasn't been cancelled yet.

Ours is before then and hasn’t been cancelled (yet) either...

 

[Meriweather]

No email here yet, but I did send a note to my TA that I want cash back......BUT we have a different credit card number now (same card) will that matter?