Continental Airlines lose a customer

ZIPBAGS said:
Well you would be wrong. They are entitled to a fair fee to make changes. I am in sales. I treat all my customers the same.
I guess will agree to disagree. :)

You treat all your customers the same yet you want Continetal to treat you better than other customers by reducing the fee agreed to by 50%.

I guess we will agree to disagree.
 
well, I will be in the minority and agree with the folks that expect a reasonable fee for a flight change(assuming the new flight has open seats at the lower price)
I see airlines shoot themselves in the foot by not allowing a change, and then ending up with an overbooked flight, so they have to pay $xxx to get a passenger to change their flight!
I can see paying a fee for a change as long as it is reasonably close to what it would actually cost them to make the change. But, in most cases, no way, no how does it cost them $100 to hit a few keys on a keyboard to change someone's flight. They probably would make you do it yourself anyhow. And, even when they do it for you, you know they don't pay their CS people much, so it is not costing $100.
I never see them offering to pay ME $100 when THEY decide to change their flight times!!!

As far as the OPS problem, it stinks, but that is the way that airlines do things. One of the reasons I am trying SW this time.
 
well, I will be in the minority and agree with the folks that expect a reasonable fee for a flight change
Everyone believes that. The disagreement is with regard to what is reasonable. AFAIC, whatever someone agrees to in advance, is therefore reasonable. What I see as unreasonable is saying, "Yes, okay, your terms are acceptable," and then complaining about the terms afterwards. It is disingenuous behavior, by definition.

I see airlines shoot themselves in the foot by ...
There is no way for us to know. Managing a business requires not only experience, but data about markets, customers, etc. Reading these forums is an eye-opener, sometimes, because of how often people assert that "logically" X should equal Y, when in reality, X and Y are independent variables affected by a multitude of factors, and could therefore be the same, one greater than the other, or vice versa. We can speculate about we personally think we might do under certain circumstances, but without access to the necessary data, no one can legitimately speculate about what "everyone" would do "on average" or how one approach would affect a business versus another approach.

I can see paying a fee for a change as long as it is reasonably close to what it would actually cost them to make the change.
American business generally applies value-based pricing, not cost-based pricing. This is a fundamental aspect of commerce, and is really considered to be the difference between a marginal enterprise and a profitable one.

My townhouse cost me $189,000. My neighbor recently bought the identical unit, right next door, for $429,000. Do you really expect me to sell my townhouse for $200,000? Of course not. I'm going to price based on what I believe its value would be to my ideal buyer.

But, in most cases, no way, no how does it cost them $100 to hit a few keys on a keyboard to change someone's flight.
Let's put aside one of the pillars of American business, value-based pricing, for a minute, and just consider how much it costs to make a change to a reservation. How much do you think it really costs? Okay... have you added in the cost of acquiring the associate, training the associate, paying the associate for the associate's time, paying for the associate's health benefits, covering the associate's vacation time, giving the associate a cubicle to work from, furnishing the associate's cubicle, wiring the cubicle up, maintaining facilities for the building, renting or buying the building itself, paying for the telephone services to receive your call, paying for the IT services to maintain records and allow the associate to change them, paying auditors to audit the records for both financial and operational considerations, ... I'm sure I missed a few -- dozen. I'm not saying that it actually costs $100 (because, as I pointed out earlier, that's irrelevant), but I'm saying that it costs far more than most people think.

Oh, and don't forget that you have to add a nice hefty percentage on top of that for profit. It is well-established practice in the American consumer-facing service industry that you should price your core product a little lower, to remain competitive, and make up the loss with higher surcharges.
 
Continental charges $1015 R/T for a refundable reservaton from EWR to MCO. That fare would allow the poster to make the changes he want without any charge. The poster, like most of us, elected to purchase a restricted fare. He gave up the flexibility of making free changes in exchange for a significant discount. The amount of a change fee is certainly one factor that should be considered when selecting an airline.

Not only does SW allow us to make changes for no charge but the maximum, fully refundable R/T, fare from the NY area to MCO is $370. During peak travel periods that can be a very reasonable fare.
 

Lewisc said:
Continental charges $1015 R/T for a refundable reservaton from EWR to MCO. That fare would allow the poster to make the changes he want without any charge. The poster, like most of us, elected to purchase a restricted fare. He gave up the flexibility of making free changes in exchange for a significant discount. The amount of a change fee is certainly one factor that should be considered when selecting an airline.

Not only does SW allow us to make changes for no charge but the maximum, fully refundable R/T, fare from the NY area to MCO is $370. During peak travel periods that can be a very reasonable fare.

AMEN!

Airfare is akin to rolling the dice. You pay what you can afford and take your chances.

Another reason I like SWA is their Rapid Reward system is very easy to use and restrictions are minimal!

pinnie
 
Just a quick update. I checked my same flights and Continental has dropped the price $50 per ticket. So I called to see what was up. As I was waiting a automatice message tells you that if you find a cheaper fare online they will match it plus give you a $100 voucher towards future flights. Apparently, it doesn't apply to when they lower the price. So I asked the rep. If I can change it since the fare is so much cheaper. She still said its a $100 per ticket charge. I then said I could buy a one way ticket for cheaper than that. She didn't care. I wasn't even asking for the difference back. Just to be able to change the flight going home to a wide open flight the next day.

***UPDATE***
Spoke to a very nice supervisor and explained the situation. She changed the flight for me. I was very nice and thanked her constantly. She said being kind is what made her do it. :cool1:
 
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