Coffee Shop Boycott by "Moms". Debate?

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Sorry I don't have a link but just heard this on news. A coffee shop called "Taste of Heaven" has posted a very small, innocuous sign that says "children of all ages must use their inside voices". This has prompted a boycott among some of the local mothers. One mother called to confront the owner who said that her very garulous, outgoing three year old was asked to be quiet and the mom was asked to leave. The store owner said that he spoke to the server that day who didn't recall the incident happening as the mother had described. The mother did however discribe her daughter as outgoing, someone who talks and likes to engage strangers in conversation, asking them what their name is, etc.
She is offended that her daughter was made to feel bad for being outgoing and will not return to the shop.
My thoughts. I like children. I had four but if I want a quiet cup of coffee someplace, want to talk quietly to whom ever I am sitting with or just want to read the paper, I should not feel compelled to talk with an "outgoing three year old who wants to know my name". I think that this gets back to our child centered society where everything must stop in order to make that particular child the center of the universe. I think my parents were onto something when they said, "don't speak until you are spoken to". Any thoughts?
 
Where is this coffee shop, because I'd love to go there!

My DD can't stand being loud -- she thinks other children aren't "civilized" enough. :rotfl2: She likes setting a good example for other kids.
 
Where is this coffee shop, because I'd love to go there!

no kidding! me too!

i would assume that there are plenty of other coffee shops in the area. if people don't like the store's policies, they should go somewhere else. if enough people do it then the store will go out of business. yay free market. :cheer2: :teeth:
 
I don't see any problem with it -- lord knows that's a phrase I've repeated over and over to my son.
 

Oh, heaven forbid we stifle those kids. Jeez louise, I have a kid myself, and when she was small, she had to learn that there are places where it's ok to be loud and other places where you need to be quiet. The sign doesn't sound rude or nasty and other patrons of the coffee shop deserve a little peace and quiet without having someone else's kids being rambunctious or loud.

I don't even drink coffee but think I'd run over to this coffee shop and buy something to show my support. :teeth:
 
I don't see anythng wrong with their policy. I se it as "children of all ages" so adults too will be asked to be quiet or leave. I don't want to be bugged by someone elses child who thinks its oay to talk to strangers. Certain places should be quiet so you can realx. Not everything in the world was made kid friendly and there is good reason.

I know my "Taste Of Heaven" does not involve talking to other kids while leaving my kids home with a babysitter.
 
That happened in a coffee shop in our town, but nothing formal. A bunch of moms would go there once/week and they would basically sit and chat while their kids would tear around the shop. They never tried to get them to sit still or be quite. The owner of the coffee shop said something to them after getting MANY complaints about the kids. Well the moms got all huffy and started a boycott. A friend told me about it and how I shouldn't go there. I know these moms and I know what their kids are like. I never boycotted the place.
 
SSCCATAGAP! (Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens and Gays against Parents...as taken from The Simpsons, in the epsiode known as "MArge vs Singles, Old People...")

Anywho...I agree. People should use their "inside voices". They sure do at Starbucks! That place is like a friggin library. It's awesome...and you know what? IF I walk in and there are loud kids in there hoggin up the the big comfy sofas or running around and being loud or asking strangers there names, then I leave (without my coffee...and Starbucks loses my business).
 
that would just encourage me to go to that coffee shop. Good for them for standing up for what they see as a good atmosphere for their establishment!
 
NMAmy said:
I don't even drink coffee but think I'd run over to this coffee shop and buy something to show my support. :teeth:

A lot of people agree. The owner said he received over 2000 supportive calls and only two negative calls.
 
I'd go to that coffee shop in a heartbeat! While children are important, they are not nor should they be the center of attention in public. I applaud this coffee shop owner. Hopefully, this will catch on.
 
Jeeze, no debate!! I can't believe that there isn't someone on the Dis who doesn't feel that children need to 'express themselves. ;) You were all children once. Isn't it archaic to feel that children should be restrained? How will they develop the self confidence to move into a society that doesn't welcome their opinions, thoughts and feelings? Shouldn't they have equal access to what the rest of us enjoy? Are children interacting without the refined ability to modulate their voices any more disturbing than some adult russeling the pages of his newspaper? A group of mothers who are willing to go into a shop, buy coffee and muffins and sit and relax for a couple of hours while their children entertain themselves should be welcomed.
 
NMAmy said:
Oh, heaven forbid we stifle those kids. Jeez louise, I have a kid myself, and when she was small, she had to learn that there are places where it's ok to be loud and other places where you need to be quiet. The sign doesn't sound rude or nasty and other patrons of the coffee shop deserve a little peace and quiet without having someone else's kids being rambunctious or loud.

I don't even drink coffee but think I'd run over to this coffee shop and buy something to show my support. :teeth:

Well said. I also sometimes don't want to be disturbed by a three year old asking me my name. In line at the grocery store, sure. But in a coffee shop where I'm reading or having a conversation or even just quiet time with someone else, it's rude of the parents to let their kids disturb other people.

Anne
 
Let's all meet there tomorrow at 2pm to show our support of this owner!!! Dis meet at "Taste of Heaven"!!! 60,000 Dis'ers for coffee! Love this owner!
 
The Mystery Machine said:
I hope that includes cell phones!!! Now that would be "heaven".


So true! I have my phone on "Vibrate" all the time. If it "rings" and I'm in a restaurant, or even a store, if it's a call I need to take (my DH, my editor, a publicist I've been playing phone tag with, etc.) I answer it and quietly say "hold please" then step outside to have my conversation.

I don't know why people insist on not only having their ringer on, but having it on full blast! It's SOOO obnoxious!

Anne
 
Oh I love it!!!!! What a great policy!! Children shouldn't be hanging out in a coffee shop anyway. What a bunch of whiney moms. I'm happy not to lump myself in with them.
 
ElizK said:
Let's all meet there tomorrow at 2pm to show our support of this owner!!! Dis meet at "Taste of Heaven"!!! 60,000 Dis'ers for coffee! Love this owner!
Now that's a DIS meet I would love to attend! :teeth:
 
golfgal said:
That happened in a coffee shop in our town, but nothing formal. A bunch of moms would go there once/week and they would basically sit and chat while their kids would tear around the shop. They never tried to get them to sit still or be quite. The owner of the coffee shop said something to them after getting MANY complaints about the kids. Well the moms got all huffy and started a boycott. A friend told me about it and how I shouldn't go there. I know these moms and I know what their kids are like. I never boycotted the place.


Too funny! Did they not get that they HELPED the shop by staying away? :teeth:

I love kids and I especially love my own :goodvibes but I wouldn't have thought about bringing them to a coffee shop. I don't frequent them, as there are none close to me and they're expensive, but on the rare occasions I go, it's a special treat and I want to sit and talk with my friends peacefully, sans noisy kids.

I also can't stand when parents let their kids run wild and do nothing to teach them how to behave. They're not doing them any favors. People don't like to be around kids like that. I think it just boils down to the parents being lazy.

Good for the shop for taking a stand, and I think the "use inside voices" sign was a nice way of putting it, not rude at all. If I went somewhere and saw a sign like that, I would point it out to my DDs and remind them to use their inside voices. No big deal. :)

Laurie
 


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