Citricos

[minnie mum]

For a minute I thought I was on the wrong site. Could have sworn Ihad clicked on a Cruise Critic debate about proper dress in the MDR.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

Within 5 minutes of our party being seated, the 3 rules listed above were blatantly broken by 2 separate parties that were seated right after us.

1) As I keep saying, with the exception of V&A, dress codes no longer apply at WDW.
2) Much to the dismay of MANY OF US.

 

[JZCubed]

We just spent a wonderful weekend at WDW and stayed at the DVC GF resort for the first time, a beautiful resort and had a great time.

When booking a diner reservation at Citricos, the CM clearly stated the policies of the restaurant which specifically included the following....

1. no tattered clothing
2. no flip flops
3. no hats for men

Within 5 minutes of our party being seated, the 3 rules listed above were blatantly broken by 2 separate parties that were seated right after us.

I did not say anything to the staff deciding to wait until after dinner to discuss the situation with the CM's. After diner, I asked about the situation and was told "we're trying but it is difficult". That is a BS answer.

Here's my point - either stick to the rules or change the rules. Don't make rules that you are not going to enforce. This is a very simple concept but one that Disney can't seem to grasp.

I am not trying to debate whether Citricos (or any other restaurant) should have a certain dress code, all I'm saying is to not make guests abide by rules that are not going to be enforced.

Oh, I've entered (maybe even started) Threads such as these and find myself having evolved on the matter.

On the one hand, Disney does give the impression that a 'Signature' restaurant should be offering something comparable to a 'memorable' dining experience. This implies grow-ups acting and dressing like grown-ups; also suggests children being on their best behavior.

On the other hand, Disney is a resort and expecting everyone to have an opportunity to shower and wear 'proper attire' for a Signature dinner after traipsing through the Parks is just too much to ask for all too many people trying to 'do everything'. And there is nothing anyone can do to get children to behave at dinner time when bedtime is fast approaching - particularly after traipsing through the Parks.

So how have I evolved on the matter?

1.) I've lowered my expectations for Disney-run Signatures and am no longer surprised nor bothered when I witness a family 'not following the rules' - because it's their vacation too. But if we think about it - should anyone in a Mickey or Minnie t-shirt be denied entrance to a restaurant?

And there is no accounting for good taste. We need only look at the 'red carpet' scenes in the news to witness for ourselves that a a 'top designer' can still produce some very ugly, albeit expensive, clothing.

2.) I avoid Disney-run Signatures by going to Swan & Dolphin Signatures. Since these are neither Disney-run nor part of Disney Dining Plans, the anecdotal evidence suggests fewer children and people generally 'better dressed' for dinner. Of course, there are other non-Disney places, like Waldorf and Four Seasons, but Swan & Dolphin Signatures also provide 'free' childcare at dinner in addition to taking Tables in Wonderland for those of us looking to extract marginal discounts.

3.) I would like to see a few more places, besides V&A, that are adult-only for dinner that can also enforce a 'proper' dress code. Someone wearing a t-shirt will not 'ruin' my special occasion by being in the same dining room, but if none of this mattered, then why not just serve a $50 steak on paper plates and dispense glasses of wine in paper cups?

 

[shh]

For a minute I thought I was on the wrong site. Could have sworn Ihad clicked on a Cruise Critic debate about proper dress in the MDR.

Too funny...I was just thinking this. Two looong Celebrity threads -the famous flip flop and jeans in the MDR debate. I tend to side with the "respect the dress code rules" side though. I just think it's a sign of respect to fellow diners to follow the dress code of a restaurant if they have one, as the goals is to try and create a beautiful or elegant atmosphere for all their guests to enjoy. But I'm also one who thinks it's a bit disrespectful to attend a formal wedding or a funeral in shorts, flip flops and baseball caps - yet always see people doing that too. Oh well - can't sweat the small stuff, I guess. (But in WDW, all bets are off...I think CMs are fighting a losing battle on any type of dress code there.)

 

[Micca]

They offered him a collard shirt, but he declined.

Was it green?

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Was it green?

Lol!!.. Can't remember. Sorry for the typo.

MG

 

[Lvdisfan]

Calling Citricos or any other Disney restaraunt a fine dining establishment is a stretch. (I might exclude Victoria & Alberts) They are another well crafted illusion with food.

 

[Uncleromulus]

1) As I keep saying, with the exception of V&A, dress codes no longer apply at WDW.
2) Much to the dismay of MANY OF US.

We had dinner at California Grill 2x last trip. IF they had enforced the suggested part of the dress code, probably half the patrons would not have been allowed in the restaurant.

And that is why they just go with the short list of "not permitted" items!!

 

[Uncleromulus]

Oh, I've entered (maybe even started) Threads such as these and find myself having evolved on the matter.

On the one hand, Disney does give the impression that a 'Signature' restaurant should be offering something comparable to a 'memorable' dining experience. This implies grow-ups acting and dressing like grown-ups; also suggests children being on their best behavior.

On the other hand, Disney is a resort and expecting everyone to have an opportunity to shower and wear 'proper attire' for a Signature dinner after traipsing through the Parks is just too much to ask for all too many people trying to 'do everything'. And there is nothing anyone can do to get children to behave at dinner time when bedtime is fast approaching - particularly after traipsing through the Parks.

So how have I evolved on the matter?

1.) I've lowered my expectations for Disney-run Signatures and am no longer surprised nor bothered when I witness a family 'not following the rules' - because it's their vacation too. But if we think about it - should anyone in a Mickey or Minnie t-shirt be denied entrance to a restaurant?

And there is no accounting for good taste. We need only look at the 'red carpet' scenes in the news to witness for ourselves that a a 'top designer' can still produce some very ugly, albeit expensive, clothing.

2.) I avoid Disney-run Signatures by going to Swan & Dolphin Signatures. Since these are neither Disney-run nor part of Disney Dining Plans, the anecdotal evidence suggests fewer children and people generally 'better dressed' for dinner. Of course, there are other non-Disney places, like Waldorf and Four Seasons, but Swan & Dolphin Signatures also provide 'free' childcare at dinner in addition to taking Tables in Wonderland for those of us looking to extract marginal discounts.

3.) I would like to see a few more places, besides V&A, that are adult-only for dinner that can also enforce a 'proper' dress code. Someone wearing a t-shirt will not 'ruin' my special occasion by being in the same dining room, but if none of this mattered, then why not just serve a $50 steak on paper plates and dispense glasses of wine in paper cups?

Well--that'll never happen is my guess. Remember the squeals and cries of outrage when at V&A they banned kids under 10? Made the national news!!!

And technically even V&A isn't adult only---

 

[AngiTN]

Calling Citricos or any other Disney restaraunt a fine dining establishment is a stretch. (I might exclude Victoria & Alberts) They are another well crafted illusion with food.

Call them whatever you want. It's not an illusion at all. I don't think anyone is trying to say they are on the same level as fine dining off property. Point is, they are as "fine dining" as you can get at Disney. The so called signature restaurants are trying to be slightly different than the rest of the restaurants. That's why they call them signature. On the other hand, because they are at Disney, and as pointed out, people have been in a theme park and it's not always possible to shower and change just to go eat, they are going to have slightly different etiquette rules.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Yep--a family using Disney Transportation could take HOURS of valuable time just getting from a Theme park to their hotel to change, then getting to the actual restaurant. Then be overdressed to return to a park.

 

[smcabee]

I can pretty much guarantee if my scalp psoriasis is flaring up your gonna want this gentleman to wear a hat in the restaurant.

 

[RRB]

Oh, I've entered (maybe even started) Threads such as these and find myself having evolved on the matter.

On the one hand, Disney does give the impression that a 'Signature' restaurant should be offering something comparable to a 'memorable' dining experience. This implies grow-ups acting and dressing like grown-ups; also suggests children being on their best behavior.

On the other hand, Disney is a resort and expecting everyone to have an opportunity to shower and wear 'proper attire' for a Signature dinner after traipsing through the Parks is just too much to ask for all too many people trying to 'do everything'. And there is nothing anyone can do to get children to behave at dinner time when bedtime is fast approaching - particularly after traipsing through the Parks.

So how have I evolved on the matter?

1.) I've lowered my expectations for Disney-run Signatures and am no longer surprised nor bothered when I witness a family 'not following the rules' - because it's their vacation too. But if we think about it - should anyone in a Mickey or Minnie t-shirt be denied entrance to a restaurant?

And there is no accounting for good taste. We need only look at the 'red carpet' scenes in the news to witness for ourselves that a a 'top designer' can still produce some very ugly, albeit expensive, clothing.

2.) I avoid Disney-run Signatures by going to Swan & Dolphin Signatures. Since these are neither Disney-run nor part of Disney Dining Plans, the anecdotal evidence suggests fewer children and people generally 'better dressed' for dinner. Of course, there are other non-Disney places, like Waldorf and Four Seasons, but Swan & Dolphin Signatures also provide 'free' childcare at dinner in addition to taking Tables in Wonderland for those of us looking to extract marginal discounts.

3.) I would like to see a few more places, besides V&A, that are adult-only for dinner that can also enforce a 'proper' dress code. Someone wearing a t-shirt will not 'ruin' my special occasion by being in the same dining room, but if none of this mattered, then why not just serve a $50 steak on paper plates and dispense glasses of wine in paper cups?

Do the "adult" restaurants at the Swan and Dolphin have and enforce a dress code?

 

[Uncleromulus]

Nope--same as the WDW Signatures.

Now since there a lot of meetings and conventions at those hotels, there is a larger proportion of "Business casual" dress--and a LOT fewer kids.

But shorts and t's are perfectly fine and we see those pretty much every visit.

 

[Micca]

I sort of like it when another guest tests the boundaries of the dress codes/suggestions. It mitigates DW's spoken opinion of "Is that what you're going to wear?"

 

[TheRustyScupper]

probably half the patrons would not have been allowed in the restaurant. And that is why they just go with the short list of "not permitted" items!!

Money talks . . . . . . all else walks.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I'm headed to Yachtsman... I'll wear cut offs with holes and a tee shirt that has a Jack Daniels bottle on one side and a big pot leaf on the other.

Is that testing the limits??

MG

 

[TheRustyScupper]

I'm headed to Yachtsman... I'll wear cut offs with holes and a tee shirt that has a Jack Daniels bottle on one side and a big pot leaf on the other. Is that testing the limits??

ONLY if you wear black socks with your sandals.

 

[Uncleromulus]

Since the dress "code" does not even mention footwear, how about JUST the socks???

 

[maxiesmom]

OP it seems you were misinformed as to what the rules truly are. Most of what you are complaining about is not against the rules.