Citrico's/Artist Point/Jiko -- Which Would you Choose?

AggieTexan

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I'm trying to settle on a reservation for dinner on our arrival night. I keep changing my mind between Artist Point, Citrico's, and Jiko.:confused3 We are doing the DDxDP, so we need to choose a Disney-operated restaurant.

We're 50-something-year-olds looking for a restaurant with good food, an interesting wine &/or drink list, and a (somewhat) adult atmosphere. Our other three dinners will be at Yachtsman, Flying Fish, and California Grill.

We'd like to look around the resort before/after dinner, or in the case of Citrico's maybe resort hop on the monorail...we've been to all three monorail resorts before, but we've never seen AKL or WL. Our other consideration is transportation. We're staying at BWI and are planning to use Disney transportation, but we're not adverse to taking a taxi either.

Given my "requirements":rolleyes1, which restaurant would you choose and why?
 
Link to some of my comments and pics from all three: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2698036

I would say Jiko has the most interesting wine list and most adult atmosphere. Artist Point feels very tranquil and serene - I love the setting. Any of the three resorts would be great to explore, but I think the food at Citricos is the most mediocre.

Jiko might be the most inconvenient, transport wise. To get to either Citricos or Artist Point, you take a bus to MK and then (to GF) monorail or boat or (to WL) boat or bus.

So overall I'd go with Artist Point.
 
Jiko for a few reasons. 1) The food is some of the best I've had anywhere. 2) The selection of South African wines is truly stunning. 3) The resort is beautiful and soothing. 4) Jiko always seems to have a more adult atmosphere, on six trips there I've never run into an ill-behaved child. 5) The buses are easy to navigate, especially because it's all buses, and if you want to get a cab the bell services desk here is amazing.
 
Citricos! Can't wait to go back there. The service and food were top-notch!

Had a very bad service experience at Jiko, and the food was meh to us--we had very bad steaks. It will take us a while to get back there, but it does get good reviews.
 

We both found Jikos food to be BLECH. I hate to say it since so many rave over this place. It is very serene and quiet as well as adult like and the service was good but I just didn't care for the food. Never been to AP but hardly found the food served @ Citricos "mediocre". Are you kidding me!? The food there was AWESOME. The short ribs are TO DIEEEEEEE for and the desserts!? They have a Pastry Chef making them to order which you can see if sitting close enough. He was AWESOME and the desserts were the best on property (that we have ate so far) in our opinion.

Our Son slept the entire meal and we shipped the girls to the Neverland Club that evening. The food was incredible from start to finish and the atmosphere was very laid back, quiet and relaxing. I wish I was there right now.... ;) I would totally go with Citricos! You won't regret it!
 
Citricos! Can't wait to go back there. The service and food were top-notch!

Had a very bad service experience at Jiko, and the food was meh to us--we had very bad steaks. It will take us a while to get back there, but it does get good reviews.

We felt the SAME way with Jiko. I just couldn't understand what all the fuss was about? It all seemed to taste the same and leave a bad taste in my mouth. DH agreed. Our cuts of meat were much to be desired when we went as well. I ordered the filet and it was the worst one I had during my entire visit. BLAH.
 
Citricos was out of this world incredible...been there twice and it was excellent each time
 
Never been to AP but hardly found the food served @ Citricos "mediocre". Are you kidding me!?
Unfortunately that's my opinion, and I'm entitled to feel that way just as you're entitled to be disappointed in Jiko. Here's a quick run through of my most recent meal there:

-Escabeche Frutti di Mare. I was expected a vibrant mix of seafood, almost like a ceviche. Instead the fish was dry and bland, and there was very little lemon flavor. It didn't taste fresh at all. Like most dishes, it was beautifully presented, but that doesn't make up for terrible flavor.

-Grouper with fregula pasta, clams, shrimp, tomato and saffron sauce and olive oil crostini. The grouper was fine but nothing special - same with the clams and shrimp. The pasta, tomato and saffron sauce combo tasted like it could've come from a can. The crostini was too oily and greasy, making it unpleasant to touch.

-Tropical crème brûlée. Very one-note in flavor, the flavor was strongly citrus and mango. But because of the heaviness of the cream and the boring flavor, this dish wasn't very exciting at all.

And how I feel about the rest of the menu (based on the current allears menu - I'll italicize the dishes I've tried):

-Shrimp appetizer. Not unique to Citricos at all. I've had a variation of this dish at several Mediterranean restaurants (including Spoodles before it closed), and this version isn't that special.
-The gateau of crab, or crab cake. I've had better crabcakes at Legal Seafoods, with lumpier, more flavorful pieces of crab.
-Duck confit. Probably the best appetizer on the menu.
-Arancini. I've gotten similar arancini at Whole Foods, so not very exciting.
-Cheese plate. Many other signatures offer 4 or 5 types of cheese, Citricos only has 3.
-Butternut squash soup with mushroom. My mom had this, and she didn't think the salty mushrooms added much to the soup. Jiko and Hollywood Brown Derby have better squash soup.
-Can't speak for the salads. I will say I had a great tomato and mozzarella dish here over the summer, but Narcoossee's had a better version of it.

-Short rib entree. I think the blood orange demi-glace was too sweet. The greens are greens, and the potato is potato. While the short rib has a good texture, the dish is too heavy and sweet for me.
-Swordfish, currently served with pappardelle pasta, white wine, garlic and oil. Previously, I've had chicken here served with the exact same accompaniments, and I think it's kind of lame that they keep the same side items and simply rotate the protein. Anyway, I had the swordfish and it was good, but it was served with a spring vegetable crêpe that was way too heavy for summer.
-Chicken with mushroom risotto. My mom has had better-cooked chicken at Artist Point, and better risotto at Le Cellier.
-Veal shank. Probably the best entree, from what I've heard.
-Pork two ways. I did really enjoy this entree, but it's not so amazing that I have to go back. Another very heavy plate, which seems to be their specialty.
-Seared tofu with ratatouille. I think Artist Point and Jiko both offer much better vegetarian plates.
-Filet of beef. I had this once and thought it tasted odd. The potatoes were too cheesy for me, and the veal glace was also quite sweet.

-Lemon cheesecake dessert. I preferred Le Cellier's lemon cheesecake, it was lighter and served with more interesting textures (if I recall correctly, Citricos's is served with that giant crunchy thing, it almost looks silly next to the tiny cheesecake).
-Chocolate banana tart. Very good, warm, and chocolatey. Not good enough that I have to go back, as every restaurant has a solid chocolate dessert.
-Berry gratin. A very nice dessert, but very heavy (like most of the menu). And the alcohol flavor dominates the berries.
-Tiramisu. I've never had it, so I won't comment.
-Trio of gelato. Good, but I think the almond gelato was better than the current vanilla. Vanila, chocolate, and raspberry are rather ordinary flavors.

There you have it. I've tried 6 of the current appetizers (including the escabeche), 6 of the current entrees (including the grouper), and 5 of the current desserts (including the crème brûlée), and that's my impression. Nothing was amazing enough that we're desperate to return. A lot of the food at Citricos feels very heavy, which isn't what I expect from a Mediterranean restaurant. But the restaurant is 'inspired' by Mediterranean flavors, and France is included in that description, allowing them to incorporate butters, creams, cheeses, etc. to please the American palate. The background music and decor are pretty convincing, but the food doesn't win me over. I can see the appeal if you're looking for a big piece of meat and/or cheesy potatoes or a well-cooked piece of fish with hit-or-miss sides, but my own experience doesn't make me want to rave about Citricos.
 
Can only comment on Artist Point (trying Jiko next trip!). We had a nice romantic dinner there. We had a table overlooking the beautiful pool area. The service was excellent and unhurried, the atmosphere was relaxing and the food and wine were excellent. :thumbsup2
 
For the record, regarding my very strong opinions about Citricos. I understand that many other people have completely different experiences there, and we're all allowed to like different things. If everyone liked the same places, then those specific hotels and restaurants would be impossible to book. But for me, Citricos misses the mark as an upscale Mediterranean restaurant, and I think some of that is covered up by their intricate presentation of the food.

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We ate at 5 signatures our last trip in October 2010. Citricos was the absolute BEST, and Jiko was BY FAR the worst. At Citricos, hubby got the filet, I got the short ribs, and for apps we got the gateau of crab, and some other sort of lemon shrimp appetizer. It was probably the best meal I have had EVER. Specifically the gateau of crab. It is definitely not supposed to be some sort of crab cake. it is more like a seafood mush that tastes like HEAVEN.

Our filets at Jiko tasted like rubber which we couldn't figure out because they were cooked correctly (medium). We chewed and chewed and chewed. Maybe we got the wrong thing??? Maybe they do better with their more african dishes? I don't know, this was the restaurant I was most excited about but it ended up being just bad. we are not opposed to trying it again and getting something else. :wizard: Flying Fish is also AMAZING!!! You will love it.
 
We ate at 5 signatures our last trip in October 2010. Citricos was the absolute BEST, and Jiko was BY FAR the worst. At Citricos, hubby got the filet, I got the short ribs, and for apps we got the gateau of crab, and some other sort of lemon shrimp appetizer. It was probably the best meal I have had EVER. Specifically the gateau of crab. It is definitely not supposed to be some sort of crab cake. it is more like a seafood mush that tastes like HEAVEN.

Our filets at Jiko tasted like rubber which we couldn't figure out because they were cooked correctly (medium). We chewed and chewed and chewed. Maybe we got the wrong thing??? Maybe they do better with their more african dishes? I don't know, this was the restaurant I was most excited about but it ended up being just bad. we are not opposed to trying it again and getting something else. :wizard: Flying Fish is also AMAZING!!! You will love it.
Gateau of crab means crab cake, hence that is what I compared it to. If you call a dish a crab cake (even in half-French), then it better be as good as other crab cakes I've ever had, and it wasn't. Not even in Disney. I would choose Brown Derby's instead.

Different strokes for different folks. Flying Fish or Yachtsman have never wowed us, and I'm not very impressed by Citricos. As of now, I would take Hollywood Brown Derby and Le Cellier dinner, which are frequently panned on these boards, over those places. Artist Point never gets much attention, but it's my favorite signature right now.
 
I was totally in love with Jiko for the longest time...then they switched chefs, we went and it was awful. So now I would say Citricos.
 
Thanks for this thread. I think DH and I are going to go to Citricos for our 5 year anniversary... It's easy to take the monorail/boat from MK, correct?
 
Thanks for this thread. I think DH and I are going to go to Citricos for our 5 year anniversary... It's easy to take the monorail/boat from MK, correct?

We are trying Citricos for our anniversary in June!
Yes, it's very easy to get from MK to GF. Boat is quickest as it's the first stop, whereas on the monorail you have to stop at Contemporary and Poly before getting to GF.
 
Gateau of crab means crab cake, hence that is what I compared it to. If you call a dish a crab cake (even in half-French), then it better be as good as other crab cakes I've ever had, and it wasn't. Not even in Disney. I would choose Brown Derby's instead.

Different strokes for different folks. Flying Fish or Yachtsman have never wowed us, and I'm not very impressed by Citricos. As of now, I would take Hollywood Brown Derby and Le Cellier dinner, which are frequently panned on these boards, over those places. Artist Point never gets much attention, but it's my favorite signature right now.

Good thing I did not know this! :scared1: I do not like crab cakes at all, so if I would have known that I would have never ordered it and really missed out! I can see though why anyone would not like it if you were expecting a crab cake then, because it really isn't like a crab cake at all. It didn't really even taste like something that was cooked to me!
 
Citricos is amazing and for a romantic meal, this is my top pick. Jiko is also quite good, and a very close second in my list of favorite signatures.

I found AP to be good, but not great. My app and dessert were great, as was the service, but the entree was lacking.

I have reviews of all three places if you want to know specifics. Links on my signature.


Gateau of crab means crab cake, hence that is what I compared it to. If you call a dish a crab cake (even in half-French), then it better be as good as other crab cakes I've ever had, and it wasn't. Not even in Disney. I would choose Brown Derby's instead.

Gateau is translated as cake because that is the closest meaning. But it does not necessarily mean what anglophones know as cake. For example, the word for cookie in French is 'petit gateau' - little cake. But cookies are very different from cake. I would not expect a dish to be like a New England crab cake when it is called a Gateau of Crab. When I see gateau on a menu I think it implies that the ingredients are caked together, in whatever way the restaurant likes to make the dish. Therefore I think it is unfair to compare the two dishes and pronounce one poor because they use the French word gateau to describe it.
 
Gateau is translated as cake because that is the closest meaning. But it does not necessarily mean what anglophones know as cake. For example, the word for cookie in French is 'petit gateau' - little cake. But cookies are very different from cake. I would not expect a dish to be like a New England crab cake when it is called a Gateau of Crab. When I see gateau on a menu I think it implies that the ingredients are caked together, in whatever way the restaurant likes to make the dish. Therefore I think it is unfair to compare the two dishes and pronounce one poor because they use the French word gateau to describe it.
Ok fine. I still didn't think it tasted amazing for what it was. Didn't get enough crab flavor. And if it's not supposed to be compared to a crab cake, then the servers shouldn't do that when they're making menu suggestions. :confused3
 
Ok fine. I still didn't think it tasted amazing for what it was. Didn't get enough crab flavor. And if it's not supposed to be compared to a crab cake, then the servers shouldn't do that when they're making menu suggestions. :confused3

Have to agree with Mr. Dole Whip here. I went here with my family and we all ordered the gateau of crab because the servers recommended it and said it was just like the typical crab cakes. So if a server tells me that something is "like" a crab cake, then yes I will compare it to crab cakes I've had in the past.

Was not impressed.
 


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