Child Models...Yes or No???

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OK, not looking for flames here -- even your local home furniture ad need people in it...

Our DD has been told many, many times that she should be a child model. Not bragging, but she has the disposition -- she's a natural ham and loves the camera, and has all those beautiful curls! -- but DH is wary. We're not talking beauty pageant here -- just local stuff, and DH and I would put any money away for her college education (we both have master's degrees in criminal justice, so we know the costs!!!). She's already almost three -- we'd have to have professional pix taken (not too tough) and find an agent -- is it too late at two-and-a-half?

Just wanted to know what y'all think...she's such a ham. She always grabs her Viewmaster and pretends it's a camera :3dglasses .

Anyone have experience with this? I dunno -- seems like a lot of work...

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We have been approached about our DD6 modeling since she was about the age of 3. Sounds like a similar situation and I also dont want this to come off sounding bad or bragging so please dont take it as such; DD is a beautiful little girl, very outgoing and smart. Great hair, smile, petite in size, the whole shootin match. She has always liked having her picture taken and people just seem to naturally gravitate to her. She's definately got that certain "something".

However, we made a clear decision that we would not pursue this. Partly due to the fact that she is a borderline diva and we feel this would just nudge her over the edge. :rotfl2: We want her to stay a little girl for as long as possible. And in these times, its not long.
We also have a DS who is 14 months older than she is and I honestly dont think he could take it. She is constantly being told how cute she is and "oh how adorable" and DS is a pretty good sport about it but I know it gets old for him, especially since he's a pretty good looking boy. I guess what I mean is that we are trying to keep them as equally yoked at this point as possible. Does that make sense?

Bottom line is that you have to do what you feel is right for your family and for YOUR child. Tough decision... Good Luck! :goodvibes
 
I know a few people who have had their kids do some. Really it's more work for the parents than the kids. The most important quality for kids is to be cooperative and okay spending hours waiting and still able to smile and pose on queue.

I may pursue some of this with my 14yo DD someday but she's at an awkward stage right now still growing and braces. She was always too tall when young but the camera loves her so maybe someday since tall is a plus for older models.

If they do catalog shots and that type of thing in your area it is a plus. That is the where the bulk of work for child models is.
 
When my DS was two years old we entered a photograph of him that DH took in the General Mills/Cheerios contest on the cereal box. And DS WON, he won FIRST PRIZE. We won all sorts of amazing items. We actually entered the contest and FORGOT about it. Months later they were to do the JUDGING and we were on vacation when they attempted to notify us. WELL, finally, we got the call and local newspapers came to our home in droves....!!! It was quite exciting. Then we moved from MA to NJ! My DS was placed on some huge mailing list and we received a brochure on a modeling competition for babies/toddlers called TINY STARS/PETITE STARS of AMERICA. We entered the NJ competition and DS WON FIRST PLACE(DS is 3 yo now). Wow, that was NEAT. Prize money and other items were awarded. Along with an all expense paid trip to the NATIONALS in Chicago(DS is 3.5yo). My family flew into Chicago from MA and I flew with DS from NJ to Chicago. (Sadly, DH had to work)! Thousands of babies/toddlers/youngsters from all the states that won their state title were there. WOW, it was exciting!!! My family was so thrilled to be there. AND let me mention this was October and I was 7 months preg's with DS #2 due in December!!! Not feeling my best at all but did get permission from NJ MD to travel.

DS WON THE NATIONAL TITLE FROM THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY FOR THE PETITE STARS!!! We were blown away!!!

We were up on the runway, they had the finalists and then they awarded the runners-up and then the FIRST PLACE screaming out loud his name from N E W J E R S E Y!!!!! My fam and I were SCREAMING with excitement!!!!!

And can I tell you, all the while DS has NO clue what is going on. He is just having a blast up on that stage!!! The trophy was bigger than him. He won tons of money and prizes. We were ecstatic!!!

To the OP: Despite all the fun we had and the numerous calls that followed, I never pursued this at all. DS # 2 arrived soon arrived I return home and I was extremely busy with the new baby. We then moved to OHIO and lived in Sylvania and a lady in my subdivision owned a children's modeling agency actually called THE AGENCY and asked me to bring DS by, but I just felt like I really wanted DS to be a kid. Seriously, even my mom said she would take DS around to all his assignments BUT I just was not into this at all. I just wanted him to be a kid and have fun!!!

DS still has all his money saved in a special acct from all his winnings!!!

GOOD LUCK with whatever decision you choose to make!!!
 

You know, whenever I hear about children modelling, I just think of JonBenet Ramsey and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It just seems like stuff like that puts too much focus on looks and not enough on character content.
 
Disney Doll said:
You know, whenever I hear about children modelling, I just think of JonBenet Ramsey and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It just seems like stuff like that puts too much focus on looks and not enough on character content.

I agree. There's just an "ick" factor about it.
 
Our neice was in the same situation, except that her family was in a position where it was not a hypothetical, if they decided to do it it would be a done deal. So they decided to try it once and see how she did. I think she was about two at the time. Well, they dressed her up as a pea and she wanted to be a carrot. Cried, wasn't happy, and that was it. They decided never again.
 
I feel the same way I do about that as I do "cute baby" contests.

I think pretty much ALL young children are cute enough to be models. I've never seen any one child under five that just struck me as being exceptionally more "beautiful" than any other. If someone told me my child should be a model, I'd say "Oh thanks" and move on. Not something I'd want any part of. Tacky.
 
Disney Doll said:
You know, whenever I hear about children modelling, I just think of JonBenet Ramsey and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It just seems like stuff like that puts too much focus on looks and not enough on character content.
Me too.

However, I really think the problems stem from the parents getting too into the whole thing.

I have known people of both sides of the coin. One mother had her DD modelling for a few local ads and that was it. Did not place tons of emphasis on this aspect of the little girls life but made some money doing it. Eventually, other activities took place of that and it was just a fun memory with some great photos.

The other mother started out just for 'fun' and then it almost became an obsession, honestly. She began to really see it as her DDs 'career', allowed her to miss alot of school because of it (she was 8 at the time). She became very competitive and and demanding of her DD, who really showed very little interest after a while. She really was the epitome of 'stage mom' and I think it even affected her marriage. I haven't seen her for quite some time, but it was so sad to watch.

I never did anything like that with my kids because I am not into that scene, but I would urge any parent to keep it very light when the kids are young and as they grow, follow the lead of the child instead of getting blinded by the potential you see in them.

Good luck, whatever you decide.
 
Disney Doll said:
You know, whenever I hear about children modelling, I just think of JonBenet Ramsey and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It just seems like stuff like that puts too much focus on looks and not enough on character content.


Totaly, totaly agree!
 
If you are going to pursue it, get an agent before you pay anything to have photos taken.

When my son was a teenytiny he did some modeling and the reputable agents all told us that little'uns don't need professional shots to get work. Babies just change too quickly to need modeling shots. Good shots taken by mom and dad work just fine.

IMHO, any agent that says you need to invest money at all isn't on the level.

Barbara
 
When my nephew was about 2-3 my sister was approached by a talent scout with a major modeling agency about signing him. Because it would have involved going into NYC 2-3 times a week she declined--they lived about 90 minutes away in CT.

She just didn't want him exposed to that type of lifestyle.

Anne
 
My niece did some, mostly for Target/Daytons (Marshall Fields) ad's. They used a local agency and did photo shoots only in the summers so she wouldn't have to miss school. One thing is that they usually don't take the 'pretty' kids, it's usually the ones that have a more unusual look. Of all the grandkids, this niece is probably the least attractive of them all, but she has an unusual look. It's a competitive business and like others have said, if you get into it, you really shouldn't have to pay to have any photos taken-my SIL submitted a photo they had taken at Proex originally.
 
Alright, I am going to take a totally different approach because I have noth modelled (as a child and teen) and compete in pageants.

It can be a very, very positive thing. I know when all the girls my age were going through the "I'm so awkward stage," my self confidence was through the roof. I also attribute that confidence to the reason I have never even smoked a cigarette, let alone experiment with anything else. That confidence follows you through life from job and school interviews to your personal relationships. Yes, you can get it elsewhere. I would never deny that. For me, I rather liked what came from modeling and pageants.

Please, please, please do not take your daughter to one of the big-whig modeling agencies just yet. A lot of them are a huge scam. HUGE. They will tell you they need $1000 or more to put togehter head shots and a portfolio. Not true. She needs to know what to do first. John Robert Powers has an excellent modleing and finishing school. They take you through the steps and teach you everything you need to know. You slowly build up a portfolio through them. Again, where I was, the pricing was incredibly reasonable.

Also, at least in the branch I was associated with, you will attend the MAAIs. Huge exposure. Huge. The difference with MAAIs is that the agencies and scouts want to be there. They are looking for models and actors/resses. Plus, going with the JRP Philadelphia office is fun... you win everything :)

I have been able to put away quite a bit of money to pay for my own college education through pageants and modeling. Of course, you will find stage parents and catty girls. But, I truly believe that is true everywhere. There are a lot of positives to be found. Jon Benet Ramsay's are not the norm and don't let people tell you they are. For the most part, pageant children and child models are well-articulated, well poised, and well graced/mannered. The most important thing is that she has fun with it. An off-day here or there can be expected. It's when they all become off days or she stops enjoying it that you need to reconsider.
 
My kids are also cute, and my daughters especially are very photogenic. I use them as models on my website all the time.

But I would never try to get them into modeling or commercials, because they are all just too sensitive to take a lot of rejection. The world is full of beautiful, photogenic children, and the odds are, they would face a lot of "nos" before they got a "yes".

I am all for children learning that life is not fair and that they won't always win, but there is enough opportunity to learn that in the ordinary course of life, without going looking for opportunities to be rejected.
 
Years ago, I used to work in advertising as a creative director. Part of my job was hiring models for a local deptartment store's ads and catalogs. Therefore, I have a lot of experience working w/models.

And, more recently, DS was called to model 2x for Fisher Price toy boxes.

Let me start by saying that if you're dealing on a local level, you do not need an agent. You can be a "freelancer". You're probably thinking "sure, but how do I make the contacts?" Depends on your area. I mean, if you're in NYC, I'd say get a modeling agent (and a good one). However, if you're in a small town or city, do it yourself. You can create your own headshot card ... front has a close-up of your child. Behind the card, you'd put 3 photos of your child "modeling". You can use casual shots that you've taken. Include recent photos ... nothing too old b/c if she's not a baby, nobody will care what she looked like as a baby. Remember to include all vital stats -- child's name, eye color, hair color, height, weight, clothing size, phone number, parents names, child's age.

Next, do some research. Find out who your local advertising agencies do business with and if any of them use models. For example, if you have a local department store that advertises (not a chain), their ad agency will hire the models for the photo shoots. Call the local advertising agencies and ask if they hire models. Most do. Then, ask who would you send photos for consideration to. Get as many ad agency names and send your photos. Ad agencies keep those photos in a file based on child's age. Keep updating photos every year w/that agency. If they need a child in a certain age range, they'll pull their file folder and go through it. If they like your child, your child will be called in for a "go-see" -- where basically, the creative directors want to see what the model looks like in person, if they're sociable, if they follow directions, etc. Often, we'll take a photo of your child for the files. Going on a go-see doesn't mean you get the job. It's just that -- a go see if we like your looks.

What's nice about freelancing is that you do not have to pay a percentage of your earnings to the agency. For example, if I booked your child, at the time I worked, they'd get $50 for their appearance for catalog (which was basically 1 hour b/c that's the limit for children). Parents got $50 clean and clear. Now, if I paid a modeling agency, not only would I have to pay a booking fee, but they'd take a percentage of your money for their profit.

The work for getting your child's photo out there is a lot in the beginning ... getting the head shots, sending them out, making contacts, etc. If you work w/an agent, then that becomes their responsibility -- but w/that comes $$ out of your pocket. Regardless, whether you do it yourself or go through an agency, there are no guarantees.

As far as DS getting called for Fisher Price toy boxes, we live near East Aurora, where Fisher Price is located. Every summer, they have "Toy Fest". At toy fest, they do an open call for potential models. They have the kids sit in one of the Power Wheels trucks, they put their name on the Power Wheels windshield and take their photo. From the thousands of photos they get from that, plus all the others they get from local modeling agencies, they select kids for boxes or to toy test. DS was called in twice for boxes. We did not pursue this whatsoever. He wanted to sit on the powerwheels (w/o realizing it was for potential modeling consideration) and we let him. We didn't even give a thought to being called for modeling! It just wasn't something we were pursuing. We let him do it and tucked the money into his savings account.

Also, not to discourage you ... but many local small companies, like the furniture store the OP mentioned, will call in friends and relatives to do these ads as opposed to using models (which costs $$). I've had some small companies for clients and they'd use their own "talent".

Finally, there's nothing worse than a stage mom. Once, when we were casting a commercial, I happened to be walking to the conference room where we had the casting call (I was one of the people making the casting decisions) and heard a mom threatening her child that if he didn't get the commercial, she wasn't going to do this anymore. Well, let me tell you ... when they came in, I told the woman what I heard her say and that if her kid didn't get the part (which he didn't), it wasn't b/c he wasn't good enough ... it was b/c he didn't have the look we were after.

Now, the beauty pageants ....... don't even get me started on those!!!!
 
Disney Doll said:
You know, whenever I hear about children modelling, I just think of JonBenet Ramsey and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

It just seems like stuff like that puts too much focus on looks and not enough on character content.

The vast majority of child modeling is just what is described here. Catalog & Ad Flyer shots. Not really exciting stuff. JonBenet Ramsey was doing beauty pageants not modeling. In the modeling shoots they want kids that look like kids. Kids that are older than they look often have an advantage often are because they tend to take direction better. One of the cousins that did a lot of modeling was very petite and when she was 12yo she could look about 8yo. If they wear any make-up it isn't enough that you can tell and the clothes they wear are what the store is trying to sell.
 
You guys bring up a lot of good points -- thanks for the opinions. It all seems like a lot of work (especially in the beginning). I've seen those A&E specials on some pageants and I can't believe what some of those moms put those kids through (and it also seems like it can be very clique-y, which I want no part of).

And for DH and I, school and learning are the most important things -- not looks. I guess I just figured they have to get those kids for ads somewhere, eh?
 
Your DD is BEAUTIFUL! I would certainly purchase whatever she is in the advertisement for! :goodvibes

Child advertising models -GOOD :thumbsup2
Child Beauty Pagents -BAD :sad2:
 
Daxx said:
Also, not to discourage you ... but many local small companies, like the furniture store the OP mentioned, will call in friends and relatives to do these ads as opposed to using models (which costs $$). I've had some small companies for clients and they'd use their own "talent".


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I once dated someone who owned an ad agency, and he "used" me in a couple of print ads and radio ads. I just did it as a favor.

DD also appeared in a print ad for a local department store when she was little; she was at a gathering and the head of advertising met her and asked her to come in.

She really didn't enjoy it (now, turn this way, put your arm that way, etc) so she never did it again.

One of her friends was a local model, but was relatively low key-definitely not a diva, and school/sports/friends took priority; modelling was a hobby. Another young lady she danced with was into the model/actress/singer-dancer mode. What a little diva with a stage mother to match Gypsy's. :rolleyes:
 


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