CBR 2 rooms for 4...dd needs own bed questions

[mamakitty]

New ada guidelines for resorts? Daughter needs separate bed. 4 traveling meaning we need extra room at CBR.. I was told in the past they comped the 2nd room but not now. Help any info?

 

[Michigan]

As long as there are 2 beds in the room the ADA requirement has been met.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Bring an aerobed.

 

[crashbb]

Are you talking about an accessible room? In this case, if you could (as a group of four) fit into one non-accessible room (i.e. have two beds) then the hotel has to have an accessible room in which you do the same thing or have a system that allows you to have two beds.

If you a "normal" room, then there is no provision to give you an extra bed.

In neither circumstance would the hotel have to give you a complimentary room so that you have five beds.

 

[SueM in MN]

There is no requirement to provide 5 sleeping spaces for 4 people.

In the past, most of the wheelchair accessible rooms with roll in showers had one king size bed and the possibility of bringing in a roll in bed. That meant that an accessible room with roll in shower had beds for 2 or 3 people, while a non-accessible room had beds for 4. In that case, they may have given 2 rooms for a party of 4. The reason would be that the party of 4 would have fit in a non-accessible room, but the accessible rooms had only beds for 2 people.

They do not do that anymore because accessible rooms now have beds for 4 in most cases.
Some roll in shower rooms at all resorts have been renovated recently to have either 2 double or 2 queen size beds (depending on the resort).

Those rooms have beds for 4 people, which is all they are required to provide. Who sleeps in which bed is up to you, but the resorts are not required to provide 5 beds for 4 people.

At some resorts, you may be able to get a roll away - the Disney Vacation Club (DVC) resorts do not have/allow roll aways.
As another poster mentioned, you could also bring an Aero or other blow up bed.
Or, you could choose to purchase an extra room - then you would have 4 beds and your daughter could have her own. If you choose that option, request connecting rooms so that you can open the door between the rooms to allow you to move between the rooms without going outside.

If you don't need an accessible room, there are some rooms that have beds for 5. I can think off hand of these:

• POR in the Alligator Bayou area has 2 beds and a small pull down bed.
• Some of the DVC 1 bedrooms have a King bed in the master bedroom, a sleeper sofa and a single bed size sleeper chair in the living room. These include Old Key West, Bay Lake Towers and some DVC villas at Animal Kingdom.
• All Star Resorts and Art of Animation have family Suites that sleep 6 (queen bed, sleeper sofa and pull down bed).
• Some rooms at Contemporary in the Garden Wing sleep 5.
• Fort Wilderness Cabins sleep 6.
• I believe that Swan and Dolphin also have some rooms that sleep 5 (these are on Disney property, but are not owned by Disney).

 

[crashbb]

If you don't need an accessible room, there are some rooms that have beds for 5.

Question for you Sue - do those resort that offer rooms that sleep five people have to provide accessible rooms that also sleep five people? I would have thought so, but you state "If you don't need an accessible room..." which seems to imply that these places to do not offer equivilant accessible rooms.

 

[SueM in MN]

Question for you Sue - do those resort that offer rooms that sleep five people have to provide accessible rooms that also sleep five people? I would have thought so, but you state "If you don't need an accessible room..." which seems to imply that these places to do not offer equivilant accessible rooms.

I'm not sure if POR has any, but all the other ones I mentioned do have accessible rooms with roll in showers that sleep that number (I am sitting in an OKW accessible 1 bedroom that sleeps 5 as I am typing this).

The POR that sleep 5 are very limited in number, so if they have any that are accessible, it may only be one room. Once they are all gone (the accessible or non-accessible), there is not a requirement to provide a room that sleeps 5. If all the non-accessible 5 bed rooms are reserved, that 'category' is filled.

 

[clanmcculloch]

I'm in the same boat being a family of 4 wihere DD14 needs her own sleep space because of issues associated with her autism. The onus is on us to book a room that has 3 sleep spaces or else book 2 rooms. If we ever want to stay at CBR I expect to have to book 2 rooms. ADA requires equal access and getting something for free that others in your position (party of 4) would have to pay for is not equal.

 

[mamakitty]

I was on a disability site that stated that is how it would work, being comped a 2nd room. I didn't know they no longer had the king bed in the accessible room. I tried booking two connecting rooms last night at CBR and was told they would only guarantee connecting rooms to 2 adults and 2 minor children. I think that is horrible. So Mom and Dad can have privacy but a family of 4 adults with a 24 year old that had a massive hemmoraghic stroke is out of luck. She is disabled to the point of not being stable enough to walk without constant supervision. She is tube fed and non verbal. She is blind in her left eye and has limited vision in the right. I told the person on the phone that I could not leave her to even get to the phone if I had a problem in the shower, or getting her in and out of bed. I couldn't go running down the courtyard to the other room for help. But I was told the only guarantee is what I stated above. See what happens when you tell the turth. I could have said I was bringing my minor grandchildren. I still think they need the special number to call for this instead of just central reservations. Thanks all for your input. We booked an Old Key West one bedroom but the reviews are really not too good. The food situation especially. I am on vacation and don't realy want to cook. We needed a food court because we try not to eat in front of her and that would have been convienent to take turns going. Will keep researching and modify if we can. Any suggestions would help. Is The Art of Animation as garish as it looks in pics?

 

[crashbb]

Old Key West does have a quick service option:
http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/dining/diningdetail.cfm?Restaurant.ID=304

 

[lanejudy]

It is true they won't guarantee connecting rooms, or even that both rooms are in the same building, though there is a strong chance of getting that accommodation if requested. I would think you could have it noted as a medical need, though not certain, which increases the chances you would get it.

Good luck!

 

[SueM in MN]

I was on a disability site that stated that is how it would work, being comped a 2nd room. I didn't know they no longer had the king bed in the accessible room. I tried booking two connecting rooms last night at CBR and was told they would only guarantee connecting rooms to 2 adults and 2 minor children. I think that is horrible. So Mom and Dad can have privacy but a family of 4 adults with a 24 year old that had a massive hemmoraghic stroke is out of luck. She is disabled to the point of not being stable enough to walk without constant supervision. She is tube fed and non verbal. She is blind in her left eye and has limited vision in the right. I told the person on the phone that I could not leave her to even get to the phone if I had a problem in the shower, or getting her in and out of bed. I couldn't go running down the courtyard to the other room for help. But I was told the only guarantee is what I stated above. See what happens when you tell the turth. I could have said I was bringing my minor grandchildren. I still think they need the special number to call for this instead of just central reservations. Thanks all for your input. We booked an Old Key West one bedroom but the reviews are really not too good. The food situation especially. I am on vacation and don't realy want to cook. We needed a food court because we try not to eat in front of her and that would have been convienent to take turns going. Will keep researching and modify if we can. Any suggestions would help. Is The Art of Animation as garish as it looks in pics?

Only time for a quick reply - follow the link in my signature to the disABILIRIES FAQs thread. Post one is an index - look in there for the post about room accommodations. There is a number there for Special Reservations. They may still not be able to guarantee connecting rooms, but you have a better chance. They still will not comp you a room.

 

[clanmcculloch]

We loved AoA so I'm not sure what you mean by garish. It definitely has over the top bright in your face theming but I don't see that as garish.

They don't guarantee connecting rooms for anybody, even one adult with 4 kids. They try their best but no guarantees. Actually, if you work with the Special Needs department they may be able to do something to help increase the chances of getting the connecting rooms which is something that families without special needs can't do but again, nothing is every guaranteed. I went this route to ensure we got a room with a day bed when we stayed at YC and I was a nervous wreck until we saw our room. In that case I knew I had a 50/50 chance of getting it even without the note so I was feeling pretty confident but I really don't know if I'd take the chance with connecting rooms. I'll likely always book rooms where we have that 3rd bed within a single room/suite so I can feel confident that we'll be together.

The disability site you were reading was flat out wrong. Disney never gave a second room for free for this type of situation. If you're talking about the accessible rooms that's a different story but they never comped a room when the only need was a 3rd bed, no matter how much of a need it was including cases like yours where it's a very definite need.

I'm not sure what kind of negative reviews you're referring to at OKW. There are lots and lots of people who love that resort. It's not what we want for a variety of reasons but I still recognize that it's a wonderful resort. If you mean that you need to be near the food court then that is definitely one of the reasons it's not for us. Have you considered AKV? There's also BLT but it's more expensive and I think a bit further to dining. We've actually found that staying CL at a deluxe that has a day bed is a wonderful option for us because it allows somebody to run to the lounge and grab food for everybody very quickly and bring it back to the room. Price is pretty comparable to 2 rooms at a moderate and once factoring in the food (since we spend a lot of time at our resort and eat from the lounge because of it) that it ends up cheaper.

 

[Piper]

I am not sure what "disability site" you were on, but they didn't know what they were talking about! There is so much incorrect information out there. It really gives people the wrong impression.

So many sites even say that you must bring a doctor's note with you-wrong. A doctor's note or just a diagnosis will do nothing. Cheshire Figment had a great post on this several months ago!

If you want true information go to: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=595713

 

[SoonerSarah]

I have no advice for you, but I am sorry for your predicament. I hope everything gets resolved smoothly.

 

[AJKMOM]

Some of the deluxes have a day bed along with 2 queen beds, but not a food court. One of the AllStars has Family Suites, not sure which one.

 

[lanejudy]

Some of the deluxes have a day bed along with 2 queen beds, but not a food court. One of the AllStars has Family Suites, not sure which one.

AllStar Music and the new Art of Animation both have family suites that sleep 6. I believe the ASMu is 4 beds, while the AoA is 3 beds. Both of these resorts are considered "value."

The Fort Wilderness Cabins also sleep 6 and might be less than a suite; I believe there are 4 beds, though 2 of those are bunks but that still leaves 3 sleeping spots if someone can't climb up to a top bunk. The Cabins are considered a "moderate" resort, thouhg I'm not sure there is a food court here but there is a full kitchen so food could be purchased and prepared if that helps.

 

[Talking Hands]

AllStar Music and the new Art of Animation both have family suites that sleep 6. I believe the ASMu is 4 beds, while the AoA is 3 beds. Both of these resorts are considered "value."

The Fort Wilderness Cabins also sleep 6 and might be less than a suite; I believe there are 4 beds, though 2 of those are bunks but that still leaves 3 sleeping spots if someone can't climb up to a top bunk. The Cabins are considered a "moderate" resort, thouhg I'm not sure there is a food court here but there is a full kitchen so food could be purchased and prepared if that helps.

Ft Wilderness cabins have bunk beds and a queen in the bedroom and a pulldown Murphy bed that sleeps 2 in the living area.