Casey Anthony TRIAL Thread #4

[MaryAnnDVC]

OK...I think I missed something. I assume the jury isn't there for this? When did they get them out? Was it right after he invoked the 5th?

 

[castmember19]

I can't believe how involved with this case I've gotten. To the point of bringing my laptop to breakfast with DBF and finally having him demand that he get to see the screen too... and now both of us are involved. Lol.

DBF sincerely believes that even if Casey somehow gets away with murder, she will receive either a lot of death threats or an assassination attempt or two.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Peanut gallery commentary...

CM trying to get jury to see that he could not be believed because he was lying and being rewarded by the state. State knew about this witness already.

Tru saying you are NOT supposed to do that on stand (plead the 5th) because it prejudices the jury.

Jury out...

Judge says that the question does not warrant such a response but Mr Jordan being unskilled probably had a knee jerk reaction and said what came to his mind.

Judge asking Jordan's attorney about immunity. Attorney says ONLY for recording, but not disclosure.

Judge allowing immunity question but not questions about what is on the tape.

Prosecution advising that it will open other doors.

Judge says probably--but when you shut one door, you will open many (warning to defense).

Jury being allowed their special break to give the attorney time to speak with client about what the state said and what he can answer.

Hope this doesn't screw up a conviction. . Why must other lives be ruined to protect the evil that is Casey?

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

This trial has shown us that there are a lot of crappy scuzzy people out there.

And I love the way JBP says "skayld" (skilled).

Back to Joe Jordan. Under the circumstance, why didn't anyone tell him ahead of time that he couldn't invoke the 5th on the stand? It was on the advice of counsel...his lawyer didn't know? Or no one told him? Seems like it was possible this would come up (and it did!).

 

[snapppyd]

My back hurts just watching that court officer having to stand throughout this while thing. I wish she could sit down, LOL.


I just started watching yesterday and I am so confused

 

[dnoyes]

OK...I think I missed something. I assume the jury isn't there for this? When did they get them out? Was it right after he invoked the 5th?

Jury was removed after he took the 5th.

 

[jpcamaro70]

i believe it was just as JBP said, "knee jerk reaction" the guy is trying to protect himself, i get it./

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

OK...I think I missed something. I assume the jury isn't there for this? When did they get them out? Was it right after he invoked the 5th?

During a commercial. They did hear the part Supreme court and a little back and forth between all parties.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Kurby, Nicole is in good hands, ask your DH to take you to your favorite restaurant now be Nicole comes home so you can enjoy it. take the time to rest as you will need it. Keep us informed on how you both are doing.

 

[usnuzuloose]

When people are doing the volunteer searches they should be told not to put anything in writing unless it is a fact. I don't know if Tim Miller was aware this guy said that in the email. state would know better than to grant immunity for that. Mason makes me ill

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

My back hurts just watching that court officer having to stand throughout this while thing. I wish she could sit down, LOL.

I just started watching yesterday and I am so confused

Check the first post...lots of info, timelines (bottom of the post).

During a commercial. They did hear the part Supreme court and a little back and forth between all parties.

I don't have commercials, and I missed it. Of course, I'm posting here, checking Facebook, and playing Marbles on my phone. Multi-tasking! Wouldn't DH be proud.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

This trial has shown us that there are a lot of crappy scuzzy people out there.

And I love the way JBP says "skayld" (skilled).

Back to Joe Jordan. Under the circumstance, why didn't anyone tell him ahead of time that he couldn't invoke the 5th on the stand? It was on the advice of counsel...his lawyer didn't know? Or no one told him? Seems like it was possible this would come up (and it did!).

Probably did---

But as judge says, he is not skilled and as soon as it tresses the territory, he freaked.


Recording was of a defense investigator and defense attorney and was turned over to LE.

Jordan has use immunity--limited. Cannot be prosecuted from what they say on the witness stand but is fair game if they have other stuff on him. So this is probably why he panicked and invoked his 5th amendment rights. Thus he is rightfully afraid about what he says and what can be used.

(FYI--3 year statute of limitations--so he can still be prosecuted for his crime)

In session:
Defense wants jury to believe that prosecution hung 3rd degree felony over his head to make sure he did not go back to his original statement. So he is a "good" witness in that he benefits by not doing that.

State has hydrologists on their list for rebuttal (who could testify about TS Faye in August)--seems that whatever witness says should be non-issue

 

[CurlyGirl]

What is pleading the 5th for ... the tape recordings made w/o other people's consent or the water level testimony?

 

[HonnyDipp]

the state will call 2 new witnesses for their rebuttal? I can't wait to see where that's going! Any ideas on what its regarding?

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Since we're becoming so educated by this trial, here's some more info...
Summary of Consent Requirements for Taping Telephone Conversations by State


http://www.aapsonline.org/judicial/telephone.htm

I don't know what Joe Jordan recorded (phone conversation or what), but found this and just thought I'd pass it on. RI is a "one party consent" state...but I already knew that.


THE STATE HAS ADDED TWO NEW WITNESSES FOR THE REBUTTAL THAT COULD BLOW CINDY'S TESTIMONY OUT OF THE WATER.

 

[ilovepete]

the state will call 2 new witnesses for their rebuttal? I can't wait to see where that's going! Any ideas on what its regarding?

Yes I posted earlier about 2 people from Gentiva, where CA worked. Probably involving her time card and they will say she was at work when CA said she did the chloroform searches.

 

[HonnyDipp]

Yes I posted earlier about 2 people from Gentiva, where CA worked. Probably time card and saying she was at work when she said she did the searches.

REALLY?!?!?!?!?! OMG that is fantastic news! THANKS!

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

When people are doing the volunteer searches they should be told not to put anything in writing unless it is a fact. I don't know if Tim Miller was aware this guy said that in the email. state would know better than to grant immunity for that. Mason makes me ill

Immunity was for an illegal recording only and only limited. They cannot use what he says on the stand to prosecute him (exclusively), but it can be used with other evidence--I.e. The actual recording, for example.

 

[CurlyGirl]

Gentiva employees to call in credibility of Cindy's testimony that she was at home when the chloroform searches were made on the computer. It's about time card issues and if she was home or at work.

They said one is coming from Kansas and the other from Atlanta! One is a technical specialist to talk about how they kept their time records and emails and the other is a Senior VP.

They are there to impeach Cindy on time cards!!!! They will explain how the system works!!!

I hope to god they get her on that!!!! I bet she didn't think they'd call in those records/people! HLN says that there is no way that a hospital would allow falsified hours on time cards due to malpractice issues! This is gonna get interesting, I'm sure.

Will they be able to get Cindy on perjury if it turns out she lied on the witness stand? I wonder just how badly Cindy is freaking out now?! If it were me, my head would be in a trash can because I'd be vomiting over and over!!!!

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Has this been mentioned? Lee in the courtroom sitting with Cindy.