Captain of Sea Shepard commits piracy!!!

[shrubber]

This ought to end well...........
http://http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-media/news-100215-2.html

At 0630 Hours, Sea Shepherd Captain Peter Bethune of the vessel Ady Gil, which was sunk by the Japanese security ship Shonan Maru 2, boarded the whaling ship to conduct a citizen’s arrest of the skipper of the Shonan Maru 2.

Captain Bethune boarded the whaling ship under cover of darkness from a Jet Ski as the Shonan Maru 2 was travelling at 14 knots in the Southern Ocean. His first attempt failed when he fell into the frigid waters, but despite this the crew of the Shonan Maru 2 failed to see him and he successfully boarded the whaler without detection.

Captain Bethune’s breaching the security of the whaling fleet security vessel remained undetected for one and a half hours.

At 0800 Hours, once the sun had risen, Captain Bethune calmly knocked on the bridge wing door, entered the wheelhouse, and presented himself to the Captain of Shonan Maru 2 where he informed the skipper that he was under arrest for the sinking of the Sea Shepherd ship Ady Gil on January 6th, 2010.

All radio communications with Peter Bethune ceased at 0805. The Shonan Maru 2 did acknowledge that Bethune was onboard.

The Sea Shepherd ships Steve Irwin and Bob Barker continue to pursue the Japanese whaling ship Nisshin Maru eastward across the Southern Ocean. The ships are presently south of Australia’s Heard Island.




Assuming they are in international waters, Mr. Bethune's corpse should make excellent whale chum.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

A shame that they didn't just throw him overboard when they caught him...

 

[honugirl]

These people are total nut jobs!

 

[npmommie]

oh please , this is not piracy, the only criminals are the Japanese in this situation.

 

[npmommie]

did I say Japanese, ooops, I meant poachers

 

[shrubber]

oh please , this is not piracy, the only criminals are the Japanese in this situation.

I'm pretty sure Maritime law says extortion in international waters is piracy, and may be met with execution......

I wonder if they have a plank?

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

oh please , this is not piracy, the only criminals are the Japanese in this situation.

That is not true - his attempt to detain the captain of the Japanese vessel amounts to piracy. If the Japanese decide to push this, this guy will end up in prison for a long time...

 

[npmommie]

That is not true - his attempt to detain the captain of the Japanese vessel amounts to piracy. If the Japanese decide to push this, this guy will end up in prison for a long time...

we will have to agree to disagree

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

we will have to agree to disagree

Even if these whalers are breaking the law, this captain is no less guilty. That isn't something about which one disagrees unless you think that the captain should be allowed to do whatever he wants to stop these whalers...

 

[mtdevine615]

Maritime law states he is not gulity of piracy because he neither endangered the vessel or the lives of the crew. He was making citizen's arrest. This way the captain of the whaling ship may be charged for sinking the other vessel. The lawyers are going to have fun with this one.

 

[Planogirl]

I was thinking that a citizen's arrest was legal too. Either way, the guy is crazy.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Maritime law states he is not gulity of piracy because he neither endangered the vessel or the lives of the crew. He was making citizen's arrest. This way the captain of the whaling ship may be charged for sinking the other vessel. The lawyers are going to have fun with this one.

Sorry, this is just not true. A person cannot simply decide to affect a citizen's arrest on anyone that they please, under whatever conditions that they please. There are clear rules to be followed. If it is demonstrated that this captain did not adhere to those rules, he could very easily be tried for piracy because an attempt to detain another person on the high seas is considered to be an act of piracy under international law.

 

[npmommie]

Sorry, this is just not true. A person cannot simply decide to affect a citizen's arrest on anyone that they please, under whatever conditions that they please. There are clear rules to be followed. If it is demonstrated that this captain did not adhere to those rules, he could very easily be tried for piracy because an attempt to detain another person on the high seas is considered to be an act of piracy under international law.

Really? in international waters? why not?
of course he can, he didn't board the ship in an aggressive threatening way, he boarded to demand restitution for the sinking of his ship.
this is tricky, i doubt he will be charged with piracy

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Really? in international waters? why not?
of course he can, he didn't board the ship in an aggressive threatening way, he boarded to demand restitution for the sinking of his ship.
this is tricky, i doubt he will be charged with piracy

Let's say that the "poisoned dog" poster in the other thread decided that her neighbor was guilty of trying to kill her dog. She decides to affect a citizen's arrest. She sneaks into her neighbor's home at night and detains her, calling the police and demanding that they come and arrest this woman. Guess what - the police are going to come, but it would be her going to jail, not her neighbor.

International law does not mean no law. If the Japanese decide to press charges, he is in deep doo...

 

[npmommie]

Let's say that the "poisoned dog" poster in the other thread decided that her neighbor was guilty of trying to kill her dog. She decides to affect a citizen's arrest. She sneaks into her neighbor's home at night and detains her, calling the police and demanding that they come and arrest this woman. Guess what - the police are going to come, but it would be her going to jail, not her neighbor.

International law does not mean no law. If the Japanese decide to press charges, he is in deep doo...

you are comparing apples to oranges
not the same scenario

I won't say what I think should happen to a person that intentionally poisons a dog

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

you are comparing apples to oranges
not the same scenario

Other than the fact that UNCLOS laws apply instead of local or state laws, they amount to exactly the same thing. Illegal entry (boarding the ship illegally) and illegal detention under the guise of an improper "citizen's arrest"

 

[Jennasis]

Arrrrrrrr matey.

Is this Sea Shepherd guy the one who follows Japanese whaling ships around and taunting them?

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Arrrrrrrr matey.

Is this Sea Shepherd guy the one who follows Japanese whaling ships around and taunting them?

There are two, and he is one of them. He intentionally moved his boat in front of a whaler last year and his boat was hit and sunk (no serious injuries). He is mad and wants the Japanese to pay for his boat.

 

[manning]

Are any of you guys experts in international law or just shooting from the hips??

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Are any of you guys experts in international law or just shooting from the hips??

Just reading from the laws posted on the web. You can look them up. This is covered by UNCLOS...