Can the 5 of us fit in a Studio unit!!

[undertheradar]

The thought that DVC's are being charged for excess wear and tear by extra guests is insane. As DVCs you are still guests, you are not owners. You have extra benefits that are not extended to casual guests, but you do not have deed to the property. You instead have an annual use agreement that you chose to enter in to. While I do not condone the attempt to have more guests than permitted, the only entity responsible for the enforcement would be the Walt Disney Corp or one of the subsidiaries.

 

[jaysue]

familyoffive, I love your user name as it I guess it indicates you have 5 in your family - congratulations

People with more than 2 kids are almost always "discriminated" against in some way or another by lodging establishments, dining establishments (think of all the tables for 4 out there) etc.

My opinion would be that 5 in a studio (regardless of policy) is not a good idea from a space perspective

DVC members actually do own an interest in their home resort up until Jan 1/2042. We pay annual dues for the taxes, upkeep and maintenance of the property and contract with DVC for an amount of vacation points that can be converted into various types, locations and sizes of accomdation

I see the concerns over wear and tear etc. as being legitimate as DVC annual dues pay for the upkeep and mtce. of the DVC resorts

Thanks
jaysue

 

[undertheradar]

The challenge here is that DVC owners own time, not property. DVC gives the right to use of DVC properties, not actual, physical ownership of the property. Otherwise, if DVC members travel to other DVC properties, they are invited guests with no ownership benefits. The sales pitch from DVC was the ease of trip planning, cost savings and the ability to trade points for other destinations. When asked, DVC stated that there was no physical ownership in the resort.

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by familyoffive
The challenge here is that DVC owners own time, not property. DVC gives the right to use of DVC properties, not actual, physical ownership of the property. Otherwise, if DVC members travel to other DVC properties, they are invited guests with no ownership benefits. The sales pitch from DVC was the ease of trip planning, cost savings and the ability to trade points for other destinations. When asked, DVC stated that there was no physical ownership in the resort.

Funny that I have two deeds for "time" recorded witht eh county clerk's office...

Anne

 

[peachgirl]

The challenge here is that DVC owners own time, not property. DVC gives the right to use of DVC properties, not actual, physical ownership of the property

I agree. There's a huge difference between "owning" a timeshare and physically owning a piece of property.

I see the concerns over wear and tear etc. as being legitimate as DVC annual dues pay for the upkeep and mtce. of the DVC resorts

We ALL pay for upkeep on WDW properties. Whether you pay for in maintenance fees on a timeshare or just in the cost of a reservation...it still costs everyone. I don't see DVC members having a more vested interest in this subject than anyone else who visits WDW.

 

[Lewisc]

The original question is can 5 fit. Regardless of Disney rules, fire code rules and DVC ownership interests 5 people can't really fit in a studio. Personally I think some of the 1 bedroom units should have 2 queen (or full size) beds in the bedroom. Maybe charge more points for those units.

I suggest OP consider 2 rooms in a value resort or an alternative there numerous offsite properties that can handle 5 people.

 

[Deb & Bill]

We ALL pay for upkeep on WDW properties. Whether you pay for in maintenance fees on a timeshare or just in the cost of a reservation...it still costs everyone. I don't see DVC members having a more vested interest in this subject than anyone else who visits WDW.

If that's the case, why did my dues go up this year? And they just about stayed the same for the prior four years? Sorry, babe, I'm paying for the maintenance in the unit that I am deeded at the Court House, plus the insurance and the taxes. You are just staying in a hotel.

Maybe the non-DVC owners need to find out a little bit about DVC before they make blanket statements about our ownership.

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by peachgirl
I don't see DVC members having a more vested interest in this subject than anyone else who visits WDW.

We do, because we are capitated to the property for many years to come. Others can come, trash, and leave, and don't care. DVC owners do care, and take pride in our ownership.

If someone causes excessive wear and tear to a unit, it will reflect in our dues for years to come, not so with the rate that the person paid to stay there once and not go back.

Anne

 

[DEH3rd]

What we (as dvc members) own is a cheaper rate for a premium resort, and scheduled family time. In 39 years, it goes *poof*. those 2 deeds in the courthouse mean nothing then. Some people thinks it means they own a right to be arrogant, rude and condescending. I never saw that in any of the paperwork.

 

[mickeyfan1]

Originally posted by Deb & Bill
If that's the case, why did my dues go up this year? And they just about stayed the same for the prior four years? Sorry, babe, I'm paying for the maintenance in the unit that I am deeded at the Court House, plus the insurance and the taxes. You are just staying in a hotel.

Maybe the non-DVC owners need to find out a little bit about DVC before they make blanket statements about our ownership.

Your dues went up the same as my room rates went up. Cost of doing business. If the county raises the taxes on the property, everyone pays more. You are paying for your incremental share of the maintenance, taxes, etc, the same way I am paying them when I get the rate "Plus Taxes". The insurance that you pay, I pay that too, it's in the room rate. You pay for housekeeping 2 times a week, I pay for it daily, in my room rate. As far as being deeded a property, it's hard to deed time or use, but if you believe that you are holding a deed to a particular unit, you must be staying in the same room or studio each and every time and for the exact same days each year. Otherwise, you own the right of use. Do you always get the same room as what is on your deed? When non owners use the properties, they pay a lot, often more than $10.00 per point. But sometimes less. Yes, you owners have it good, being able to know where you are staying 11 months out, but surprise - I can do the same thing. I can call CRO anytime and ask for a room at any of the home away form home resorts 11 months from that day and get a reservation. Disney will sell out the time share use, but they never have 100% of the property dedicated to that, because they know there are a lot of people who will "one time" rent the units. And trust me, there are people who own DVC who will trash their units, it isn't limited to one timers.

DEH3rd, thanks for the breath of fresh air.

 

[Penny12]

Gosh, aren't I just the lucky girl today? I get to lock <i>two</i> separate threads basically about the same thing.

The OP's question has been answered. I suggest to you all that if you wish to continue a debate about whether a 5th person in the room really impacts on DVC dues (which must mean that I am doing my 'little bit' to save my own money every time only 2 of us occupying a Studio or 1 Bedroom), you can head right on over to the Debate Board and start a thread there. This one however is done.

Say buh-bye!