calling all wdw vets... disneyland newbie here.. please help!

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hi all,

sorry if this is posted in the wrong section, i didnt know if i should post it in the dl forum, since I don't know how many are wdw vets. I'd like your help, please.

I've been to wdw many times, but never dl. I'm going to be taking my 9 year old neice for the first time this december. My general question is, what do I need to do to plan? I'm s used to my wdw planning (which parks on which days, adr's, flight planning, etc). But dl is only a 3 hour drive for me, I know NOTHING about the resaurants (is it the same process of making adr's?), the whole WOC fastpass thing kind of confuses me, and are the 2 parks doable in a full saturday/partial Sunday? Also have no idea if the crowd levels in early december are different than wdw. I feel so lost!!

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm not realy looking for the diferences in the parks (I know size difference and attractions are different), but more of a guide to planing thanks all!!
 
This thread was literally MADE for you! :) A DLR Guide for WDW Vets: http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1162599

DL doesn't require nearly as much planning as WDW, so take a deep breath :)

A day and a half (especially on a weekend which is busier) is definitely not enough time to see both parks entirely. Many prefer three or four days. If that's all the time you have though, well, you will just have to prioritize.
 
I'm a WDW regular who took my first trip to DL last year. The link above is excellent, and will take you a few hours to digest. Here is my two cents from an east coast southerner:

1. The weather in June was AMAZING. High of 72 every day, low of 60. No wonder a billion people live in Southern California. Beats 95 and humid any day. And those crazy SoCal people kept apologizing for the gloomy weather (it was a little cloudy every morning).

2. The castle may not appear as tall as Cindarella's in Flordia (apparently, this really bums out a lot of WDW folks), but it really is just as tall. But sitting next to the Matterhorn, which is 14000ft tall, it just looks short. It's called forced perspective. (Just tell yourself that, and you won't mind a bit)

3. I was blown away by Pirates of the Caribbean and Space Mountain. And it was nice to ride Soarin without having to jump through all the hoops at Epcot.

4. The parks might be smaller, but they are PACKED with attractions. I think the next time I go to WDW, I'm going to wonder why park hopping requires a monorail or bus instead of a casual 100ft walk.

5. Several people have said the food isn't as good at DL, but I disagree. They may not have as many TS restaurants, but the CS food was all pretty good...especially the Mexican restaurant at Paradise Pier.

6. World of Color is the best Disney night time show anywhere. BUT...seeing WofC is a real pain in the...well, you know. In my perfect universe, WDW would replace Fantasmic with WofC. The show would be awesome with stadium seating instead of the awful standing arrangement.

7. One of my favorite things to do at WDW is to watch for cast member home towns on their badges, because they come from everywhere. I think I found maybe 2 cast members at DLR that were from somehwere other than SoCal. The cast is MUCH more local for sure.

8. The Disney magic is alive in California. The cast members were, without fail, exceptional and fun and entertaining. Some of the guests were grumpy. But hey, it's a Disney vacation. Who doesn't complain a little bit.

All in all, I had a great time. I still love WDW, but DLR has it beat for convenience and weather.
 

Your a 3 hour drive away and have never been to Disneyland?:confused3

I'm a WDW vet and now consider Disneyland to be my home park. I absolutely love it! It is hands down the best Disney park period! Read Hydroguys thread and then come back with more questions.
 
I'm a WDW regular who took my first trip to DL last year. The link above is excellent, and will take you a few hours to digest. Here is my two cents from an east coast southerner:

1. The weather in June was AMAZING. High of 72 every day, low of 60. No wonder a billion people live in Southern California. Beats 95 and humid any day. And those crazy SoCal people kept apologizing for the gloomy weather (it was a little cloudy every morning).

2. The castle may not appear as tall as Cindarella's in Flordia (apparently, this really bums out a lot of WDW folks), but it really is just as tall. But sitting next to the Matterhorn, which is 14000ft tall, it just looks short. It's called forced perspective. (Just tell yourself that, and you won't mind a bit)

3. I was blown away by Pirates of the Caribbean and Space Mountain. And it was nice to ride Soarin without having to jump through all the hoops at Epcot.

4. The parks might be smaller, but they are PACKED with attractions. I think the next time I go to WDW, I'm going to wonder why park hopping requires a monorail or bus instead of a casual 100ft walk.

5. Several people have said the food isn't as good at DL, but I disagree. They may not have as many TS restaurants, but the CS food was all pretty good...especially the Mexican restaurant at Paradise Pier.

6. World of Color is the best Disney night time show anywhere. BUT...seeing WofC is a real pain in the...well, you know. In my perfect universe, WDW would replace Fantasmic with WofC. The show would be awesome with stadium seating instead of the awful standing arrangement.

7. One of my favorite things to do at WDW is to watch for cast member home towns on their badges, because they come from everywhere. I think I found maybe 2 cast members at DLR that were from somehwere other than SoCal. The cast is MUCH more local for sure.

8. The Disney magic is alive in California. The cast members were, without fail, exceptional and fun and entertaining. Some of the guests were grumpy. But hey, it's a Disney vacation. Who doesn't complain a little bit.

All in all, I had a great time. I still love WDW, but DLR has it beat for convenience and weather.

Excellent post. :thumbsup2

(but i should mention that although I love SB's pretty pink castle....it is a tad bit smaller than the McMansion in the swamp. ;)..... & the walk across the esplanade is indeed a hop skip & jump compared to WDW parks......but i think it's closer to 100 yards as opposed to a hundred feet. But great post Dr. Mickey!)

& OP, read HG's Super Thread linked above....then read it again & post back.

:)
 
OK - I am a WDW vet heading to DL the summer, but I had to step in on something else:

Sleeping Beauty Castle is 77 feet tall at it's tallest point.
Cinderella Castle is 189 feet tall at it's tallest point, making it 2.5 times taller.

Perhaps you are just joking on that one, Dr. Mickey, but joking doesn't always come through on the internet - and I hate to see things like this start to spread around as they often do. (And, by the way, the Matterhorn is 147 feet at it's tallest point, meaning IT would look quite small standing next to Cinderella Castle, forced perspective or not.)

So, back to the main topic:
- I don't feel like DL needs nearly the planning. The parks are literally right next to eachother, so you can do whatever you want.
- There are a few places that require Dining Reservations, but you only need a few weeks in advance, and you can be in DCA and leave 30 minutes before your ADR to eat at Blue Bayou in DL.
-There is a World of Color superthread ( http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2542717 ) that is also on this board that talks about all the options, but from what I can tell, the best you can do it get a pre-book whether it is a FP or a Dining/Picnic package, and you STILL have to get there early, because most of the viewing area is pretty crappy - especially for kids. The more I research it, the more I am surprised that Disney would put together such a wonderful show and do such a poor job on the viewing area.
-We are planning 3 days - I think that is sort of a bare minimum to work in everything in the two parks, part of me wishes we had 4. I don't think a day and a half will really cut it. We plan on crossing off a few rides that are identical, or saving them for last.
-I can't comment on crowd levels from experience - but realize that DL is a locals park moreso than WDW, so my guess would be at that time the weekends would be quite crowded with locals coming to the Christmas festivities while mid-week would be extremely quiet as few vacationers and locals would be off.
 
Sleeping Beauty Castle is 77 feet tall at it's tallest point.
Cinderella Castle is 189 feet tall at it's tallest point, making it 2.5 times taller.

Perhaps you are just joking on that one, Dr. Mickey, but joking doesn't always come through on the internet - and I hate to see things like this start to spread around as they often do. (And, by the way, the Matterhorn is 147 feet at it's tallest point, meaning IT would look quite small standing next to Cinderella Castle, forced perspective or not.)


Yes, I was in fact joking. But google says the Matterhorn is 14000ft high (the real one), so by reverse-pretend-joking forced perspective, that must make the castle at least 500ft tall. Oh well. I think that idea could help WDW folks from getting bummed out by the short castle. Maybe if we spread the rumor...
 
Yes, I was in fact joking. But google says the Matterhorn is 14000ft high (the real one), so by reverse-pretend-joking forced perspective, that must make the castle at least 500ft tall. Oh well. I think that idea could help WDW folks from getting bummed out by the short castle. Maybe if we spread the rumor...

I kinda thought you were. Don't why Disneyland people get so bent about us WDWers not liking their castle....I think Freud called it Castle Envy. :lmao:

It does make me wonder - if they ARE using forced perspective, maybe that Castle is really only 28 feet and change, they only make it LOOK 77 feet high!

Seriously though - I don't much care if the castle is big or small, I am personally so excited to get two entirely "new" parks. Haven't had that experience since our trip in 2000 when we got AK and IoA.
 
I'm a WDW regular who took my first trip to DL last year. The link above is excellent, and will take you a few hours to digest. Here is my two cents from an east coast southerner:

1. The weather in June was AMAZING. High of 72 every day, low of 60. No wonder a billion people live in Southern California. Beats 95 and humid any day. And those crazy SoCal people kept apologizing for the gloomy weather (it was a little cloudy every morning).

2. The castle may not appear as tall as Cindarella's in Flordia (apparently, this really bums out a lot of WDW folks), but it really is just as tall. But sitting next to the Matterhorn, which is 14000ft tall, it just looks short. It's called forced perspective. (Just tell yourself that, and you won't mind a bit)

3. I was blown away by Pirates of the Caribbean and Space Mountain. And it was nice to ride Soarin without having to jump through all the hoops at Epcot.

4. The parks might be smaller, but they are PACKED with attractions. I think the next time I go to WDW, I'm going to wonder why park hopping requires a monorail or bus instead of a casual 100ft walk.

5. Several people have said the food isn't as good at DL, but I disagree. They may not have as many TS restaurants, but the CS food was all pretty good...especially the Mexican restaurant at Paradise Pier.

6. World of Color is the best Disney night time show anywhere. BUT...seeing WofC is a real pain in the...well, you know. In my perfect universe, WDW would replace Fantasmic with WofC. The show would be awesome with stadium seating instead of the awful standing arrangement.

7. One of my favorite things to do at WDW is to watch for cast member home towns on their badges, because they come from everywhere. I think I found maybe 2 cast members at DLR that were from somehwere other than SoCal. The cast is MUCH more local for sure.

8. The Disney magic is alive in California. The cast members were, without fail, exceptional and fun and entertaining. Some of the guests were grumpy. But hey, it's a Disney vacation. Who doesn't complain a little bit.

All in all, I had a great time. I still love WDW, but DLR has it beat for convenience and weather.

I must agree. We love DL. Sleeping Beauty's castle is charming princess:

Your a 3 hour drive away and have never been to Disneyland?:confused3

I'm a WDW vet and now consider Disneyland to be my home park. I absolutely love it! It is hands down the best Disney park period! Read Hydroguys thread and then come back with more questions.

After many trips to WDW and joining DVC we headed west to DL before a DCL adventure to Mexico. WOW like KCmike - we are hooked and prefer DL. I do make a few observation in our TR "WDW family heads to DL" in my sig if you have a few minutes to spare.

If I were 3 hours away at would be at DL all the time :rotfl:

You've got that right!!

Not mentioned in this thread is the wonderful Indiana Jones ride at DL. One of our absolute favorites!

OK, now you are all making me homesick for my Happy Place....
 
Pete, have you ever been to DLR?

If you have, I disagree with virtually all of your opinions. If you haven't been to DLR, let people know so they know your opinions are speculation.

OK - I am a WDW vet heading to DL the summer, but I had to step in on something else:

Sleeping Beauty Castle is 77 feet tall at it's tallest point.
Cinderella Castle is 189 feet tall at it's tallest point, making it 2.5 times taller.

An accurate fact. But I've grown to prefer SB's to the one in the swamp. :)


Perhaps you are just joking on that one, Dr. Mickey, but joking doesn't always come through on the internet - and I hate to see things like this start to spread around as they often do. (And, by the way, the Matterhorn is 147 feet at it's tallest point, meaning IT would look quite small standing next to Cinderella Castle, forced perspective or not.)

So, back to the main topic:
- I don't feel like DL needs nearly the planning. The parks are literally right next to eachother, so you can do whatever you want.

Not really. A little planning, especially the first 3 hours of each day....can make for a more enjoyable trip. And planning for events like the fireworks, aladdin, woc & FP collection is a smart thing for all visitors....especially first time visitors.


- There are a few places that require Dining Reservations, but you only need a few weeks in advance, and you can be in DCA and leave 30 minutes before your ADR to eat at Blue Bayou in DL.

Try 5 minutes....maybe 10. ;)


-There is a World of Color superthread ( http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2542717 ) that is also on this board that talks about all the options, but from what I can tell, the best you can do it get a pre-book whether it is a FP or a Dining/Picnic package, and you STILL have to get there early, because most of the viewing area is pretty crappy - especially for kids. The more I research it, the more I am surprised that Disney would put together such a wonderful show and do such a poor job on the viewing area.
-We are planning 3 days - I think that is sort of a bare minimum to work in everything in the two parks, part of me wishes we had 4. I don't think a day and a half will really cut it. We plan on crossing off a few rides that are identical, or saving them for last.

The first time visitor won't get it done in 3. Most end up missing out on classics like storybookland, alice & dozens of others.


-I can't comment on crowd levels from experience - but realize that DL is a locals park moreso than WDW, so my guess would be at that time the weekends would be quite crowded with locals coming to the Christmas festivities while mid-week would be extremely quiet as few vacationers and locals would be off.

Half right. Locals come out at night during the week. Making it important to be productive early & to know FP collection strategies, so you're not stuck in lines at night.

9 out of 10 WDW vet visitors who stay 3 days or less always comment that they wish they had given themselves another day or two, we see the posts every day.

Have fun at Walt's park!

:)
 
Pete, have you ever been to DLR?

If you have, I disagree with virtually all of your opinions. If you haven't been to DLR, let people know so they know your opinions are speculation.



9 out of 10 WDW vet visitors who stay 3 days or less always comment that they wish they had given themselves another day or two, we see the posts every day.

Have fun at Walt's park!

:)

Have to agree with Hound. 4-5 days is the perfect DL vacation and if you can couple that vacation with a stay in San Diego or some other California area you are in for a real treat.
 
After many trips to WDW and joining DVC we headed west to DL before a DCL adventure to Mexico. WOW like KCmike - we are hooked and prefer DL. I do make a few observation in our TR "WDW family heads to DL" in my sig if you have a few minutes to spare.

I'm off to visit your thread. Can't wait to read it!
 
Just got home this morning on a red-eye from Long Beach -- we are WDW vets who had our first magical trip to DL/DCA this week (4/17 to 4/20).

You don't say exactly when in Dec. you will be visiting -- I'm imagining that if you're close to Christmas, you'll indeed want to book your TS restaurants ahead of time but it is much easier at DL than at WDW. (Even though people here told me not to worry about ADRs for our trip, we found that without an ADR for Blue Bayou, for example, we would have had a 45-minute wait for a table, so it was definitely worth it). There are fewer TS restaurants, however, and the CS places are really very good -- also, getting to places is SO much easier and faster in DL. So you don't need to do the same kind of this day/this park/this restaurant planning that you must do for WDW -- just decide the places you want to eat and book your ADRs there, but don't be afraid of CS meals.

Same deal with a touring plan -- the closer to the busier time, the more you might want to have one, but we totally didn't need one (but, to be fair, we weren't concerned with seeing shows or anything).

Can't say enough about how much easier it is at DL. Everything is so close together, park hopping is a breeze, so many more attractions in the MK -- awesome! Have a great trip!
 
Pete, have you ever been to DLR?

If you have, I disagree with virtually all of your opinions. If you haven't been to DLR, let people know so they know your opinions are speculation.



9 out of 10 WDW vet visitors who stay 3 days or less always comment that they wish they had given themselves another day or two, we see the posts every day.

Have fun at Walt's park!

:)

OK - I guess I didn't specify in my first post - we are going for the first time this summer. I was simply commenting based on the research I made. When I was talking about planning strategies, I am talking about big picture planning. For a WDW trip, I have a spreadsheet set up 180 days in advance with which parks we are doing which days, as well as when to do DTD and Water parks, plus scheduling all our dining reservations. For DL, I haven't done that at all. I booked a hotel, and that's it. I wasn't meaning to imply that a park touring strategy is not needed, as you point out. Clearly it still is, because the crowds can be even worse there than at WDW. (I must say, thank you for mentioning that locals show up in the evening though - I hadn't thought of that!) But in the end, the level of planning is much, much less for DL. I also am sorry I said it would take 30 minutes to get from a point inside DCA to Blue Bayou instead of 10 minutes. My point there was if I want to do the same thing at WDW - I leave 90 minutes, not 10-30 minutes.

Maybe we have no hope of "getting it done in 3 days" my comment was something about we are giving ourselves 3 days, though I think I would've preferred 4. (The OP looked like they were going to try a day and a half.) We are using this as a layover on our way to a "trip of a lifetime" to Australia, I wanted to spend 2-3 days in California in both directions, so we have 3 days to see what we can see. Being WDW vets, certain things that are the same (Star Tours, Soarin, TSMM) can be skipped, while we want to have the oppurtunity for seeing the things that are alternative versions (Pirates, Space M., HM) and those that are completely new to us (Indiana Jones, Matterhorn, etc.) We certainly will be up for park opening each day,as with the time change we will be lucky if we can sleep past 5 AM. I know we won't miss Alice and Storybook land because our first day is a Magic Morning, and we are going to hit the Nemo Subs first thing, and then head directly to fantasyland via the Matternhorn and will likely not leave until we've ridden everything. (WE are no strangers to early-morning touring and the gathering of FP for later.)

Actually - one thing about DL that sort of amazed me is that there is not a single FP attraction in all of Fantasyland, and I think only 7 FP attractions in the park.

I'm going to add another comments: DL vets seem to want to convince Newbies that they should hop. You often here "I hop back and forth between the parks three of four times a day". That makes a lot of sense for vets, but I really think for a newbie it makes more sense to focus on one park one day, the other park the second day, and THEN hop after that to see attractions you missed or re-visit favorites. The exception would be maybe to hop to see F! or WoC in the park you are not in that day.
 
I'm going to add another comments: DL vets seem to want to convince Newbies that they should hop. You often here "I hop back and forth between the parks three of four times a day". That makes a lot of sense for vets, but I really think for a newbie it makes more sense to focus on one park one day, the other park the second day, and THEN hop after that to see attractions you missed or re-visit favorites. The exception would be maybe to hop to see F! or WoC in the park you are not in that day.
I would say it is not a matter of "wanting to convince" newbies, but a matter of wanting to open their minds to the possibility. Countless times we have seen WDW vets on this forum say "I read that DL and DCA are only 100 yards apart before my trip. But I still did not get how close they are until I was there and saw it with my own eyes!"

If you want to stick with one park per day, that is fine. I see some people - more on the WDW forums - use a similar philosophy for MK. "On Day 1 we will will do Tomorrowland and Fantasyland. On Day 2 we will do Frontierland and Adventureland". I personally think you can experience a lot more at MK by "land hopping", so to speak. And at DLR you can experience a lot more by park hopping. But if anyone wants to stick to one park per day or two lands per day, that is their call.

:)
 
Pete.....I walked in your shoes 5 years ago. :)

Very knowledgable about WDW. A planner (& I LIKE to plan). I can work the parks/attractions/dining plans at WDW as good as anyone. :cool2: I asked questions here & was skeptical of what this Hydro-dude & 6-10 others was trying to tell me. By the second day of my first visit I "got it". The DLR strategies are a little different than the WDW strategies

To maximize DLR, have a plan the first 3 hours of each day. (& a general plan of what nighttime event you'll do each day).

To ENJOY DLR, have a plan the first 3 hours of each day. (smell the roses at other times)

To enjoy one's first visit (or any visit)....try to avoid crowds, which means having a plan (& be productive) the first 3 hours of each day ;).... & be prepared to zig when others are zagging (which might include "hopping" once (or maybe twice) a day. Being "productive" imo includes picking up the 3-5 FPs early that you intend to use in the evening when it's crowded.

Other comments below:

OK - I guess I didn't specify in my first post - we are going for the first time this summer.

Have a great time at Walt's park. :thumbsup2


I was simply commenting based on the research I made. When I was talking about planning strategies, I am talking about big picture planning. For a WDW trip, I have a spreadsheet set up 180 days in advance with which parks we are doing which days, as well as when to do DTD and Water parks, plus scheduling all our dining reservations.

Us planners love to plan. :laughing: I would do the same.


For DL, I haven't done that at all. I booked a hotel, and that's it. I wasn't meaning to imply that a park touring strategy is not needed, as you point out. Clearly it still is, because the crowds can be even worse there than at WDW. (I must say, thank you for mentioning that locals show up in the evening though - I hadn't thought of that!)

I was referring to the locals coming out at night (& it having an impact on touring strategies) at holiday times (all December & most of October) & all summer & during spring break (3-10 - 4-20). Also virtually all Friday & Saturday nights (all year), the parks will seem a little more crowded because of local AP'ers out for a fun evening.

But not at night during the week at other times.



But in the end, the level of planning is much, much less for DL.

I agree, but a good plan can save the 2-4 day visitor hours of extra line waiting & increase his productivity by 100% or more. (which gives a family MORE time during the crowded times to smell the roses, rest, or just leisurely poke around. :))


I also am sorry I said it would take 30 minutes to get from a point inside DCA to Blue Bayou instead of 10 minutes. My point there was if I want to do the same thing at WDW - I leave 90 minutes, not 10-30 minutes.

I was using your post to show the first time visitor (who might be reading this) HOW CLOSE the two parks are to each other. Hop off Soarin' in DCA & be in line for your reservation at Blue Bayou (in DL) 5-7 minutes later. :cool1:

Maybe we have no hope of "getting it done in 3 days" my comment was something about we are giving ourselves 3 days, though I think I would've preferred 4. (The OP looked like they were going to try a day and a half.)

A "planner" like you & me can get ALOT done at DLR in 3 days. (but it helps to be productive, have a plan, be prepared to bail on the plan (& have a plan B) if needed. (this is when park hopping can come into play).


We are using this as a layover on our way to a "trip of a lifetime" to Australia, I wanted to spend 2-3 days in California in both directions, so we have 3 days to see what we can see. Being WDW vets, certain things that are the same (Star Tours, Soarin, TSMM) can be skipped, while we want to have the oppurtunity for seeing the things that are alternative versions (Pirates, Space M., HM) and those that are completely new to us (Indiana Jones, Matterhorn, etc.)

Don't forget Toady, Storybookland, Alice & Pinocchio!


We certainly will be up for park opening each day,as with the time change we will be lucky if we can sleep past 5 AM.

Me neither. :)


I know we won't miss Alice and Storybook land because our first day is a Magic Morning,

Storybookland isn't running during MM.


and we are going to hit the Nemo Subs first thing, and then head directly to fantasyland via the Matternhorn and will likely not leave until we've ridden everything.

No, no, no & no. Don't waste any early morning on Nemo. There is a MM ride order......follow it. It's not an opinion, it's a refined strategy. Peter Pan is first (always first). After that, slight variations of the ride order are acceptible (but frowned upon). :lmao:

Save Nemo for an afternoon when you need a 20 min. line for resting & a 10 min. nap. ;)



(WE are no strangers to early-morning touring and the gathering of FP for later.)

Actually - one thing about DL that sort of amazed me is that there is not a single FP attraction in all of Fantasyland, and I think only 7 FP attractions in the park.

Don't need them if you follow the ride order. :cool2:


I'm going to add another comments: DL vets seem to want to convince Newbies that they should hop. You often here "I hop back and forth between the parks three of four times a day". That makes a lot of sense for vets,

It makes sense for anyone who wants to tour productively. The opening of CarsLand may change some things......but....the goal will still be to tour & collect FPs early (for use later). DCA is merely "CaliforniaLand". When the other 4-5 "lands" (in DL) get crowded in the mid day, we stroll into CaliforniaLand aka DCA. Some of us on our way to our DLR hotel.

You don't have to "hop back & forth". But many of us start in DL, spend some time in DCA (& spend the evening in DL). Maybe one of the days (especially with CarsLand opening up), you might want to start in DCA hop to DL & then end it in DCA.

But 2 out of 3 days of a productive Diser will include starting in DL, hopping to DCA (when it gets crowded)....then maybe a break..... & then back to DL.


but I really think for a newbie it makes more sense to focus on one park one day, the other park the second day, and THEN hop after that to see attractions you missed or re-visit favorites. The exception would be maybe to hop to see F! or WoC in the park you are not in that day.

You're over thinking it. First map out your first 3 hours of each day (for maximum productivity).....then plug in the events you want to do (without worrying about where they are), & then you'll have huge blocks of time with NOTHING planned. Great.

Use those huge blocks to hop (if crowded).....or not. Doesn't matter what park you're in....it's a 5 min. walk.

If you get stuck, ask folks here.

The fact that you're commenting & asking will put you ahead of 90% of the visitors.....which means you'll do just fine. :)

& you'll have a great time at Walt's Park. :hippie:

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Pete.....I walked in your shoes 5 years ago. :)

Very knowledgable about WDW. A planner (& I LIKE to plan). I can work the parks/attractions/dining plans at WDW as good as anyone. :cool2: I asked questions here & was skeptical of what this Hydro-dude & 6-10 others was trying to tell me. By the second day of my first visit I "got it". The DLR strategies are a little different than the WDW strategies

To maximize DLR, have a plan the first 3 hours of each day. (& a general plan of what nighttime event you'll do each day).

To ENJOY DLR, have a plan the first 3 hours of each day. (smell the roses at other times)

To enjoy one's first visit (or any visit)....try to avoid crowds, which means having a plan (& be productive) the first 3 hours of each day ;).... & be prepared to zig when others are zagging (which might include "hopping" once (or maybe twice) a day. Being "productive" imo includes picking up the 3-5 FPs early that you intend to use in the evening when it's crowded.

Other comments below:



The fact that you're commenting & asking will put you ahead of 90% of the visitors.....which means you'll do just fine. :)

& you'll have a great time at Walt's Park. :hippie:

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Thanks for the advice - even though I sort of took over the OP thread - I think the advice applies to him to.

So, a couple of points you bring up that I wanted to talk about:

- The Nemo Subs - most of the stuff I've read on this is its very slow loading and builds long lines, though perhaps a lot of that was when it first opened. Are you saying the lines are shorter now? You might consider it boring about I have great childhood memories of 20,000 Leagues at WDW and the idea of getting to show my DD and DW this ride, even though I know it's not the same, but the closest we'll ever get, makes it very high on my list.

- FL / MM ride order. You mention this...where do I find it? I guess I assumed like MK, you hit Dumbo first, then Peter Pan and go from there. In brief, we arrive on Saturday evening, and Sunday is our first day. I figure being the weekend its best day to take advantage of MM hours, especially since as said before there's a good chance we'll be lying awake at 5 AM.

- You mention the strategy of starting in DL and then moving over to DCA in the afternoon. I am not sure that this will be as good a strategy this summer as in the past. We will be getting there a mere 5 weeks after Carsland opens. I would expect to see a large surge in popularity of people visiting DCA versus previously, especially at times that are popular for AP holders. (With a million of them out there, they can't ALL be going the first week its open.) For that reason - my thought was to focus our first day (Sunday) on DL, especially since there is much more we are interested in seeing there. We will use the MM that day, and also take advantage of FPs of course. (I typically have 4-5 sets of FPs in my pocket by noon at WDW, and that's with park opening at 9 AM, so I expect to have a full load of DL FPs by the time I start using them.) I will keep in mind if the park starts getting overly crowded that we could swing across the street for a bit.

- We would then on Monday hit Carsland first thing and work DCA from there, as well as do WoC that night. I suppose we could hop over to DL later that day if necessary.

-I find it interesting you tell me that I shouldn't say I don't need to plan as much at DL, but also that I am overthinking it. Which should I do? Honestly, I pretty much work it by having a strategy for the first few hours of the day, and then remain flexible with the goal of getting FPs whenever I can. (Gonna miss that strategy at WDW going forward.) I would very much appreciate that Fantasyland ride order!
 




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