we went to get an Odessy and came home with a PILOT and love it! I would not go with anyone but HONDA, as far as safety and resale honda beats out everyione even toyota we looked at teh sienna but it was just really small after being in the honda odessy. Like i said we were odyssey all the way but got an awesome deal on a fully loaded pilot and love it we can still fit 8 in it (1 more than my old van) plus it is higher and has 4 wheel drive something we use in the mountains alot...