Bush's "conversation" w/troops staged

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Saw this on the nightly news this evening also. Not surprised in the least.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051014/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_iraq

Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

By DEB RIECHMANN, Associated Press Writer
34 minutes ago



It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.

"This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.

As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit — the birthplace of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.

"I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.

A brief rehearsal ensued.

"OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"

"Captain Smith," Kennedy said.

"Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.

"Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.

And so it went.

"If the question comes up about partnering — how often do we train with the Iraqi military — who does he go to?" Barber asked.

"That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.

"And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit — the hometown — and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.

Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.

"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.

The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.

"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said.

Less than 40 percent in an AP-Ipsos poll taken in October said they approved of the way Bush was handling Iraq. Just over half of the public now say the Iraq war was a mistake.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

"I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.

The soldiers all gave Bush an upbeat view of the situation.

The president also got praise from the Iraqi soldier who was part of the chat.

"Thank you very much for everything," he gushed. "I like you."

On preparations for the vote, 1st Lt. Gregg Murphy of Tennessee said: "Sir, we are prepared to do whatever it takes to make this thing a success. ... Back in January, when we were preparing for that election, we had to lead the way. We set up the coordination, we made the plan. We're really happy to see, during the preparation for this one, sir, they're doing everything."

On the training of Iraqi security forces, Master Sgt. Corine Lombardo from Scotia, N.Y., said to Bush: "I can tell you over the past 10 months, we've seen a tremendous increase in the capabilities and the confidences of our Iraqi security force partners. ... Over the next month, we anticipate seeing at least one-third of those Iraqi forces conducting independent operations."

Lombardo told the president that she was in New York City on Nov. 11, 2001, when Bush attended an event recognizing soldiers for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero. She said the troops began the fight against terrorism in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and were proud to continue it in Iraq.

"I thought you looked familiar," Bush said, and then joked: "I probably look familiar to you, too."

Paul Rieckhoff, director of the New York-based Operation Truth, an advocacy group for U.S. veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, denounced the event as a "carefully scripted publicity stunt." Five of the 10 U.S. troops involved were officers, he said.

"If he wants the real opinions of the troops, he can't do it in a nationally televised teleconference," Rieckhoff said. "He needs to be talking to the boots on the ground and that's not a bunch of captains."
 
I listened to the teleconference live on the radio. One of the servicemen sounded like he was reading from a cue-card. Badly. It sounded staged and scripted then. I heard a recording of the pre-conference rehearsal tonight and the "answers" to the "questions" were just about word-for-word.

Bush's little publicity stunt just blew right up in his face. Can his approval rating tank even more? I can't wait to find out.
 
In all honestly does anyone thing that if Bush was talking to anyone else officer or enlisted that the answers would be different? These guys (including my dh) don't actually give real opinions about the war, it's not their jobs to give opinions, it's their jobs to follow orders and get the mission done. Somehow I don't think my dh's soldiers would tell the President that it sucked in Iraq and stinks like garbage and they tired of MREs and oh by the way we are pissed off that you mislead us.
 

I saw it too. I guess I should be shocked and amazed, but when I think about it, I'm really not.

They even scripted the soldier to take a pause before speaking. :sad2:
 
lovemygoofy said:
Somehow I don't think my dh's soldiers would tell the President that it sucked in Iraq and stinks like garbage and they tired of MREs and oh by the way we are pissed off that you mislead us.

I am curious, do many soldiers and their families feel that way? Or were you joking and I'm just missing it?
 
CherCrazy said:
I am curious, do many soldiers and their families feel that way? Or were you joking and I'm just missing it?


Honestly, my dh believes in his mission just because he was there when it began (this is his 2nd year long tour) but they work very long hours and where he is has no kitchen tent so they eat MREs and it really does stink apparently. His newer soldiers don't know what to believe; they see Americans on the tv talking about the President lying and misleading us but then they have to go do the mission anyways.
 
It must be so hard for them...and their loved ones at home. Even as much as I don't like our current president, I still don't really know what is true and what is not. I can't imagine the dilemma of fighting a war while having the same conflicts. Let's hope they all come home soon.
 
Honestly, not shocked.

I don't think anyone is shocked. This man's administration has been nothing but a stage show...with a really, really bad plot. Even staged, they can't get it right.
 
lovemygoofy said:
In all honestly does anyone thing that if Bush was talking to anyone else officer or enlisted that the answers would be different? These guys (including my dh) don't actually give real opinions about the war, it's not their jobs to give opinions, it's their jobs to follow orders and get the mission done. Somehow I don't think my dh's soldiers would tell the President that it sucked in Iraq and stinks like garbage and they tired of MREs and oh by the way we are pissed off that you mislead us.

I don't have a problem at all with WHAT the soldiers said, it's the fact that the whole thing was staged. I find that to be insulting to the solidiers, like they can't be trusted to just have a conversation with the president.
 
Oh the horror--a dress rehearsal with the soldiers so they don't look like idiots in front of their family, their country, and their Commander-in-Chief. I guess I don't understand the problem. Were these soldiers media professionals or something? Or were they just regular soldiers?

I think it's really sad that the media, in their attempt to make the President look bad, has succeeded in making these soldiers look like fools. :sad2:
 
inaminute said:
Oh the horror--a dress rehearsal with the soldiers so they don't look like idiots in front of their family, their country, and their Commander-in-Chief. I guess I don't understand the problem. Were these soldiers media professionals or something? Or were they just regular soldiers?

I think it's really sad that the media, in their attempt to make the President look bad, has succeeded in making these soldiers look like fools. :sad2:

When it gets scripted as far as who will answer what and when to move a water bottle and when to smile - it is not a teleconference, it is a play.

This plays worse than his other televised events where only his supporters are allowed to atttended.

This was never about what would make the soldiers look like idiots in front of their Commander in Chief - it was about the Commander in Chief not looking like an idiot in front of the American people.
 
This is just more shameless and relentless bashing of George Bush. This is nothing more than a standard photo op that nearly every president that has ever lived has done.

I will a agree that is a cheesy and completely phoney thing to do, but its not specific to George Bush. But its another example of selective outrage from all the Bush-haters. Funny how the media forgets about all the times Clinton and every other president did the same thing.
 
JMD said:
This is just more shameless and relentless bashing of George Bush. This is nothing more than a standard photo op that nearly every president that has ever lived has done.

I will a agree that is a cheesy and completely phoney thing to do, but its not specific to George Bush. But its another example of selective outrage from all the Bush-haters. Funny how the media forgets about all the times Clinton and every other president did the same thing.
I have to agree on all accounts, JMD.
 
inaminute said:
Oh the horror--a dress rehearsal with the soldiers so they don't look like idiots in front of their family, their country, and their Commander-in-Chief. I guess I don't understand the problem. Were these soldiers media professionals or something? Or were they just regular soldiers?

I think it's really sad that the media, in their attempt to make the President look bad, has succeeded in making these soldiers look like fools. :sad2:


I think it is sad that too many people in this country WANT to be fed propaganda.
 
JMD said:
This is just more shameless and relentless bashing of George Bush. This is nothing more than a standard photo op that nearly every president that has ever lived has done.

I will a agree that is a cheesy and completely phoney thing to do, but its not specific to George Bush. But its another example of selective outrage from all the Bush-haters. Funny how the media forgets about all the times Clinton and every other president did the same thing.

AMEN!
 
yeartolate said:
When it gets scripted as far as who will answer what and when to move a water bottle and when to smile - it is not a teleconference, it is a play.

Exactly.
 
JMD said:
This is just more shameless and relentless bashing of George Bush. This is nothing more than a standard photo op that nearly every president that has ever lived has done.

I will a agree that is a cheesy and completely phoney thing to do, but its not specific to George Bush. But its another example of selective outrage from all the Bush-haters. Funny how the media forgets about all the times Clinton and every other president did the same thing.

ITA with you!! ::yes::

It never ends. Democrats bash Republicans and Republicans bash Democrats.
I doubt that will ever change.
 
I guess I can kinda understand why they did it.

Bush is really too dumb to handle any questions he's not prepared for. He can't think on his feet.
 

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