Budget question for folks with kids in college

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As DD enters the final year of high school, I find myself focusing a lot on college costs. Not only the cost of college itself but also how it will affect our spending overall. I'm trying to estimate how our household budget will change once DD goes off to college. With one less person living in the house most of the year, there will naturally be some savings that result. So I'm curious if any of you who currently have kids in college, or have in the somewhat recent past, can comment on any change you saw in things like your grocery bill, your utility bills, etc.

I'm taking a wild guess that our utilities (gas, electric, water) may drop around 10-15%. Less laundry, fewer showers, less toilet flushing, less cooking, fewer lights on, less TV time and computer time, fewer electronic devices plugged in for charging, able to turn down the AC or heat when we're out, etc. Does that sound reasonable?

As for food, I'm figuring at least $50-75/month saved there between groceries and dining out. I'm sure it will be more than that but I want to be conservative.

Of course, any "savings" is just going to go to pay college costs but I'm trying to factor that in to how much we'll be able to contribute.
 
Can't answer your question, Steve, but its nice to see you.

I would also guess that since you have been fairly frugal, your savings will be less than someone who has their water heater cranked, doesn't turn out lights when leaving a room, washes everything on hot and dines out a lot.
 
Hi Crisi. Thanks. Nice to see you too.

Even though we are relatively frugal, there's got to be some savings when we aren't feeding her at home. We don't dine out 5 times a week like some folks but we do dine out. Just last night we brought in Chinese food. Bill was $27, so that's $9/person. Had there only been 2 of us, we would have spent $9 less. And she won't be packing her lunch every day for school. Even if that's only $2/day it will add up over the course of the school year.

As for utilities, DD still uses water for showers, brushing teeth, flushing toilet. There will be fewer loads of laundry. There are a lot of times when DW and I are not home but DD is so there are lights on, TV in use, etc., and we can't turn down the heat or AC if DD is still at home.

We will do less local driving as we won't be shuttling her around to school and activities but I figure that gas savings will get wiped out by trips to see her at school or for her to come home so no savings there.
 
Hey Steve,

I have two kids in college now affectionately known as Pain and Panic :crazy2: Panic my youngest is 14 hours away at the U of Cincinnati and Pain, my oldest is at home but also works.

So let me see,

Utilities. My gas and electric are on a budget plan so I pay the same all year and then in August things are adjusted. Now I've been tracking my electric by kwh. usually during the fall/winter when Panic is away at school my kwh's drop down to about 700 per month. Pain works part time so generally during the day the house is empty. Now this summer my usage has been off the charts, mainly because it's been so godawful hot here all of July. from 700 to almost 1400

Long story short yep when they are home my electric goes up.

Food actually goes up when school is back in session. When the boys are home for summer two things happen 1) they both work and have pretty active social lives especially since both have cars. So they are never home. LOL. It's a rare day during the summer when I cook big meals.
Also in the summer we tend to eat lighter because we grill a lot. So if it's a nice summer day we'll have some thing real simple. corn on the cob and hot dogs.

In the winter even though it's just me and 1 college student, the days are shorter it's colder, we're inside more and I cook full meals all the time.

Long story, short in the summer when both kids are home my food budget is about 300 bucks a month, in the winter it jumps up to almost 500 a month.

Gas for cars for me is also a non issue but that's because the boys are responsible for their own gas and they each have their own car.

Let's see. water is another tough one. My water consumption does go up but also in the summer we are using a sprinkler system that is off in the summer.

So truthfully any savings is really negligable. During the year I'll send Panic care packages, lol. If my alma mater (university of Pitt) is playing Cincinnati in Basketball I'll drive up and get game tickets to wolf talk my son and his friends. stuff like that.
 

Not focusing on the big expenses, as you said, but some of the smaller changes:

We saw our food bill decrease because our son (big football player) was not eating at home, but I sent him spending money so that was probably a wash...

Travel expenses were greatly increased for us; our son's school is 350 miles away, so gas to/from is a lot when he comes home. When we go there we have to stay in a hotel/eat out.

There are also lots of duplicate things that we buy, things he would share with the family if he were at home (Kleenex, air fresheners, laundry supplies, Tylenol, etc...)

And as you mentioned, our eating out and energy costs decreased, although I did not track the amount.

One of the best things ever is when our son became an R.A.--free housing!! :yay:
 
Oldest ds will be a sophomore in college.

No real discernable budget changes while he was gone. We don't eat out and prepare all meals at home. Of course we have three other kids who just began eating his share haha.

No real difference in utilities either.

Oh and they come home on break with lots of laundry and friends who need to be fed. So any savings are absorbed
 
I haven't noticed a big change in our daily budget because it seems as our elec usage went down, the prices went up.

We may not be spending money on daily lunches any longer, but there are nickel and dime things at college that take up that extra savings. I wouldn't plan on cost going down until your college student is totally off of your $$$

Good luck!
 
I'll chime in and agree there isn't too much savings when the kiddos are off to school. The gas bill goes up about $30 a month when they are home because of the gas water heater. The electric bill doesn't change much. The bulk of that is from heating/cooling the house, which remains the same regardless if they are home or not. My grocery bill is less, but since I send care packages every few weeks to both kids, it all evens out.
 
When I was figuring out what I could count on from cash flow I counted on about $1000 a year to be diverted from household expenses to college. (utilities and food going down and activity fees going away etc.) I think that's been pretty close for both my kids.

I think a lot of people forget to take that into consideration. I think it's also pretty common for that money to get rolled into extras like transportation costs rather than counting on it for tuition etc. My kids are within a few hours drive so transportation costs aren't a big issue for us. (My kids just pay those themselves as part of paying their own personal expenses.)

Since we are "cash flowing" quite a bit of college expenses to avoid them having loans, we have been pretty intentional about where that money will come from. We count on x amount a year from reduced spending and reduced expenses as well as some other cuts we've made. (Our main cash flow opportunity comes from having intentionally paid off our mortgage right before college expenses started.) It has worked well for us.
 
Our oldest has completed one year of college, and here's how things worked out for us:

We bought her a laptop for Christmas her senior year. That's an absolute necessity.

We spent a moderate amount getting her ready for college. We didn't do the she must have all new stuff for a dorm room thing, but we did buy her new bed stuff (mattress pad, sheets, comforter, pillows) and consumable supplies (toiletries, Tylenol, and other things that we keep around the house). Aside from a parka and snow boots, she didn't get many new clothes, she's using the same old backpack and calculator, and she already had things like a bedside lamp and an alarm clock that also charges her ipod. She received towels, a laundry basket, and some other dorm-needs from family as graduation presents. I think some people duplicate everything the kid has in at home so that when she comes home, she still "has everything", but we didn't do that.

We have saved since before she was conceived, and we saved with the assumption that our future children would earn no scholarships. In the event, she has about 50% of her total cost paid from two scholarships, so the big bills have actually been easier than anticipated. Also, she chose a school that includes textbook rental in its tuition, so that large bill didn't materialize.

We ended up spending more on move-in than anticipated -- that caught me off-guard. We ended up buying some expensive cables to hook up her printer, Command hooks, and a few other last-minute things that added up to more than I would've thought. We all drove up and spent the night, which meant a hotel and several meals. We also ended up renting a van because her stuff wouldn't fit in our small car. In May we rented a storage building rather than bring it all back home; our reasoning was that we won't have to rent a van again this fall, and the stuff hasn't been sitting around in the corners of my house all summer.

As for around the house in the months she was gone . . .

I can't say that our water or electric bills were any different. I mean, we continued to heat the whole house, and 3 people showering isn't all that different from 4 people showering. Cable TV, of course, has remained unchanged. Our car insurance doesn't care that she drives only occasionally when she's home.

Our grocery bill definitely went down while she was gone. Admittedly, she has some unique dietary requirements, and they do drive my grocery bill up; thus, our situation might not be entirely typical.

We've been eating out more frequently than we used to, perhaps in part because it seems cheaper now that there are only three of us. Of course, it kind of backfires on us sometimes: For example, we used to order two plates of Chinese take-out, which was plenty for the four of us . . . now one plate isn't enough, but two is too much.

Oddly enough, she was forced to buy a relatively large meal plan, and she wasn't using it all . . . so when we went up to visit, she bought us food from her meal plan. I'm glad she's able to buy a smaller plan as a sophomore.

Gas money doesn't seem to be different. First because our life is fairly well consolidated, and we don't go too far from home; second because we still have another child at home, and we're still running her around.

She comes home about once a month, but usually she catches a ride home with a friend; when she does this, we always give her and "the ride" money to pick up a good "non-campus" dinner on the way back to school.

We've twice driven up to spend one night in her college town, and I think WE have enjoyed that perhaps more than having her home. When we do that, she loves showing off the places she goes, etc., and we focus on having fun together; in contrast, when she comes home, she spends part of her time with high school friends. When we go up for one night, I'd estimate it costs us about $200 total for gas, hotel, meals.

One small oddity: Her medical costs have gone down. She got sick with -- was it strep throat or brochitus? Oh well, something common -- the second week of school, and when she went to the health department on campus, she didn't have to pay a co-pay. If she'd gone to the doctor here, that would've cost me $30. Also, she takes a medication on a regular basis. I'd been paying $15/month here, but she can get it at the college health center for $5/month. I gave her the cash to buy it, and she made sure to get enough to cover the summer months before she came home. Also, she can get over-the-counter meds for free.

When our youngest heads out to college in a couple more years, we're thinking of downsizing to a condo for our remaining working years. If we do that, I think our everyday expenses will decrease.

In closing, yes, I do see a difference in our budget when our college girl's gone. I think I'll see more of a difference when they're both gone. However, the difference isn't all that significant. We still live in the same house, still maintain the same cars.

I'm convinced that senior year is expensive and college freshman year is expensive . . . but sophomore year is shaping up to be a little cheaper: She already has all her dorm needs, and she's able to get a cheaper meal plan. Next year as a junior, I anticipate our costs will go up. She wants to move to an apartment as a junior, and at that point she'll begin student nursing clinicals, so she'll need school-color scrubs (must be special ordered from the bookstore w/the school logo and the student's name embroidered on the top) and a reliable car for transportation. But then I don't think we'll shell out quite as much for her senior year -- she'll already have the scrubs and the car. This, of course, is somewhat speculation on my part, but I believe it to be true.

Good luck as you begin this college journey with your daughter! Our girl LOVED her first year of college, was very successful academically, and we've loved watching her and helping her.
 
Thanks for the replies so far. Just to be clear, I wasn't thinking in terms of net savings but rather reallocation of funds from the household budget to the college budget like disykat said. For example, if our grocery bill drops $50/month, that's $50/month more that we can spend on college costs.
 
Thanks MrsPete. Nice to see you by the way.

Our DD is an only child so I think that will help in the savings department especially with things like heat/AC. Now, if my wife and I are going out for the day but DD is staying home, we can't turn down the thermostat or turn off all the lights. With her away, we will be able to.

Dining out will be cheaper for sure. DD is a vegetarian and that sometimes requires her to make a meal out of appetizers and sides which is often more expensive than getting an entree. Her meal is often the most expensive of the three of us, especially if DW and I are sharing something.

Travel costs will jump up, especially if she gets into her first choice school which is 7 hours away. Going to visit her will involve a 2-night hotel stay. So far, I haven't located the less costly hotels in the area (we've been there twice) but we also haven't tried Priceline which is probably the way to go.
 
Thanks MrsPete. Nice to see you by the way.

Our DD is an only child so I think that will help in the savings department especially with things like heat/AC. Now, if my wife and I are going out for the day but DD is staying home, we can't turn down the thermostat or turn off all the lights. With her away, we will be able to.

Dining out will be cheaper for sure. DD is a vegetarian and that sometimes requires her to make a meal out of appetizers and sides which is often more expensive than getting an entree. Her meal is often the most expensive of the three of us, especially if DW and I are sharing something.

Travel costs will jump up, especially if she gets into her first choice school which is 7 hours away. Going to visit her will involve a 2-night hotel stay. So far, I haven't located the less costly hotels in the area (we've been there twice) but we also haven't tried Priceline which is probably the way to go.
Nice to see you too, Steve!

As for heat/AC savings, I'd suggest you invest in a programmable thermostat. You know, the kind that'll automatically turn your heat down just a bit when you leave the house, then will turn it back up 30 minutes before your scheduled return. You won't really save on lights; lights don't produce heat, and they cost almost nothing. Remember, I'm married to an engineer in the energy field, and occasionally I learn something by accident before my eyes glaze over.

Yeah, I wasn't specific above, but my daughter's a vegetarian too -- and it is more expensive than what the rest of our family eats. For example, tonight I made a big pot of chicken and dumplings. It cost about $6 for a huge pot, and we have leftovers. Obviously, veggie-girl didn't partake. I keep frozen dinners for her on nights like tonight when meat can't be separated from dinner . . . and her one serving of vegetable lasagna cost about half as much as our whole pot of dumplings, no leftovers. Just as you say, she often cobbles together an appetizer and a bowl of soup (or something similar), and indeed it is often more expensive than a simple entrée that I order. I often buy her small pre-made salads at Target, which run $2.50 but have no waste; that's more expensive per-person than most of the meals I cook. Not that I'm complaining -- just commenting.

Our daughter's about 2 1/2 hours from home, and it's perfect. She can't run home anytime she wants to wash clothes or something else trivial, but it's not all that far from home. If I could choose for my other daughter, I'd have her between 2-4 hours from home.

We found "our hotel" on our second trip to her college town, and now we've stayed in that same place 2-3 times. By frequenting the same hotel chain, we build up reward points. It's worth noting that the prices vary wildly. On move-in weekend, big football weekends, and skiing weekends, the prices skyrocket . . . but we've figured out that it makes sense to pay cash when the price is low and save our reward points for when the price is high. Wherever your daughter ends up, you'll find "your spot" too.
 
As for heat/AC savings, I'd suggest you invest in a programmable thermostat.

We have one. When we both worked and DD was in school, we used it. Now my wife is at home so it really isn't of any value. The temp can't change when I leave for work because the house isn't empty. So we adjust manually. I turn the AC up at night and down in the morning. In the winter, the same with the heat. If we're all leaving the house for a reasonable period of time, I adjust it. But I really don't use the programmable feature currently because our schedules are too variable.
 
I will be following as I'm in the same position. We're also looking at the end of DD's involvement in an expensive extracurricular.
 
DD is heading to freshman year soon. We estimated recently that over the past calendar year it has cost us approx. $7000 for her to swim. This includes Y membership, swim team membership, USA swim membship, meet fees, tech suits, practice suits, gas (currently swimming one hour from home) and occasional overnight hotel stays for meets. I estimate that I will be saving at least 80% of that, even though she will still be swimming in college.

As for the home expenses.... Laundry should decrease by about 40-50%, since I will not be washing 2-4 extra towels per day, plus workout wear 2x a week for her. While I wash in cold, make my own detergent, and line dry for most of the spring and summer, I am sure that I will be saving $$$, not to mention lots of TIME!:thumbsup2

DD mostly showers at the Y, so no big hot water savings there. And I'm sure I will be saving on the grocery bill with one less mouth to feed, but I'm guessing it won't be enough to really notice (other than the $12 bags of dried mango from Costco!). She does tend to leave lights on a lot when she is home, but so do DS and DH, so it will probably be a wash.

I am considering dropping her from the auto insurance. She HATES to drive and won't have a car at school. I don't see the point in continuing to pay to insure her. The most driving she has done this summer was moving the car in the driveway for me :rolleyes:. I'm planning to call the insurance company and discuss the options.

We are heading out today to do a "big shop" for her dorm stuff. Getting nervous about how much it will cost me, even with coupons and such!.........P
 
We're also looking at the end of DD's involvement in an expensive extracurricular.

That's a good point. Our DD is very active in our temple youth group which involves regular events, activities, trips, and conventions. I'm not sure how much we've spent on that stuff but probably at least $1,000/year. So that expense will be gone.
 
I am considering dropping her from the auto insurance. She HATES to drive and won't have a car at school. I don't see the point in continuing to pay to insure her. The most driving she has done this summer was moving the car in the driveway for me :rolleyes:. I'm planning to call the insurance company and discuss the options.

DS attended a college that didn't permit cars for students until senior year. Our insurance gave us a break on insurance because of it. Maybe you can get a reduction for your daughter since she won't have a car at school?
 
DS attended a college that didn't permit cars for students until senior year.

I'm sure the insurance companies already know this but when colleges say students "aren't permitted" to have cars, all that really means is that they can't get campus parking permits. They're welcome to have cars. They just have to park them on the street.

My college's policy was no cars for freshman but I still had a car and I parked it right outside my dorm every day and close to campus when I drove it to class. I just couldn't get a window sticker to park on campus in a lot.
 
We are also thinking that DD will get a part time job next Summer and then work enough while in college to cover her own spending money. That will allow us to shift her current allowance and the extracurricular costs to tuition.

DD is 99% sure that she has decided on a school about 5-6 hours away, depending on traffic, as the trip involves crossing a major metro area. We agree that it seems the best fit for her. That will, of course, mean an expense whenever she comes home or we visit. One of her best friends is considering this school also and they are discussing rooming together. I'd love it if that worked out as that would give her someone to split the drive and expense of trips home.

We live in the middle of no where (Texas is a big spread out state). Her top two choices are 4-6 hours away. The closest school we visited is 3 hours and didn't impress.
 












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