Booking cash rooms just for Fastpasses

[jbh275]

I've been reading that people are cash paying for rooms before their actual vacation starts and then at the 10 day window, booking all their fastpasses. Then turn around once inside the 60 day mark and canceling their cash pay reservation.

Thoughts?

 

[com_op_2000]

I've been reading that people are cash paying for rooms before their actual vacation starts and then at the 10 day window, booking all their fastpasses. Then turn around once inside the 60 day mark and canceling their cash pay reservation.

Thoughts?

Why?
You can book FP at 60 days out with DVC reservations. You actually have less time with the way you are describing.

 

[jbh275]

let me try and clarify what I was reading.

Example, I'm staying a 5th-10th of a month. I book a cash room from the 1st-5th and link the two reservations. Then on the 1st I can book my 5th-10th reservations (technically I can book fastpasses from 1st-10th but I know I'm only going 5th-10th). So now my 60 day window starts on the 1st rather than on the 5th. I just beat all the people who had reservations from the 2nd-5th. Once my entire reservation is inside the 60 day window, I just cancel my cash stay (1st-5th) and get my money back.

 

[onestitchloose]

Sounds a bit desperate with a 60 day window to be considering that as an option.

 

[DebbieB]

I suspect this is why getting popular fastpasses (FOP, 7DMT) is sometimes difficult even at 60 days. People always find a way to game the system.

 

[Cyberc1978]

I would assume you could do the same without a cash reservation and just book two point reservations. You ofc need enough points for the dummy reservation.

The thought is however interesting as you can bypass the 60 days window for your original reservation.

 

[miTnosnhoJ]

Booking rooms to get fast passes is legal and is discussed thoroughly here. https://www.disboards.com/threads/throwaway-room-update.3539209/
However, cancelling the room is not considered good ethics and is against the rules.

 

[CarolMN]

There is no ride that would tempt me to go to all that trouble.

It also feels wrong, (My value system, maybe not yours). If this gets to be a problem for Disney (perhaps something like cancellations that result in empty rooms), you can count on them fixing it to our detriment. They could decide to cancel FP+ reservations when hotel reservations are cancelled or perhaps restrict cancellations after the 60 day mark.

 

[Kim Gillihan]

Wow, I am tired just thinking about all that. I will stick to following the rules.. I agree if this becomes a problem, Disney will do something to deter it that will make things worse somehow... like changing the cancelation window maybe...

 

[Wakey]

I am not sure whether to have admiration for the ingenious nature of the loophole, or feel pity that people would be so sad to go to so much trouble in order to get early booking for some amusement rides. Couldn't Disney program the system to cancel all Fastpasses if the room reservation is cancelled - that would sort it?

 

[Wakey]

I have just read that thread linked with shock. Book a tent site at $53, add 10 guests and get 10 magic bands, 10 lots of FP, 10 people in EMH, free parking etc. Wow if it is being abused on this scale, it needs stopping.
Hang on... I've just come up with a new business idea. $50 for a package including all of the above, and add the punters 10 at a time onto a campsite reservation, mailing out the bands to them. Probably illegal but that wouldn't deter scammers.
The worrying thing is the thread on this topic has thousands of replies.

 

[keishashadow]

WDW has message board readers. If they feel it is a problem and can tweak things easily enough, they will

Today was my 60 day for FP+ coming in on 11/25 for a week starting Saturday after Thanksgiving. While i realize it's a slow time there, noticed avatar attractions as well as TSM, Frozen, 7DMT all in ample supply.

For 2 separate weeks in Oct wasn't able to secure avatar FP until last day of both trips. It was frustrating to experience. If people are booking with the intent to cancel, it's not fair IMO as that is supposed to be a perk of staying onsite. One of the reasons people pay such inflated prices for the onsite properties.

 

[suebeelin]

You can't get rooms via cash anyway right now for Dec 2-13. I'm looking. So weird.

 

[Shelly F - Ohio]

You can't get rooms via cash anyway right now for Dec 2-13. I'm looking. So weird.

Not surprising as there is a big cheer leading competition at Disney as well as Pop Warner Football game at Disney

 

[suebeelin]

Not surprising as there is a big cheer leading competition at Disney as well as Pop Warner Football game at Disney

oh, ok. thx. Sigh.